Oh dear gawd. Is it worse than ANYONE could have imagined??? This would be pure treason

[Roland99]

Link to tweet

Jennifer Cohn
@jennycohn1
Trump speaks w/ Putin: 7/31/19

Trump requests list of top US spies: 8/3/19

Russia publishes name & biography of a man living near DC: 9/10/19

Trump says we should not use foreign spies: 9/10/19#WhistleblowerComplaint is filed re: alarming “promise” to foreign leader: 8/12/19

Link to tweet

Jennifer Cohn
@jennycohn1
Did Trump promise to tell Putin the identity(ies) of one or more US spies?

“Trump’s interaction w/ the foreign leader included a ‘promise’ that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. IC to file a formal whistleblower complaint...” 1/ #Whistleblower

[Ilsa]

1. I am missing a link. How do we know that

Trump requested a list of top US spies? Did the DNI or Gordon mention it somewhere?

If he even requested a list, it should be denied. And he should be spied upon for info on why he wants that list.

Yeah, I have often believed he is a traitor.

[Roland99]

2. Aug 2

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212339381

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. I remember reading that, and recommending the thread.

K&R.

[dalton99a]

5. +1

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

49. I realize that "operational security" means nothing to Trump

But if I were asked for such a list, I would demand to know why he wanted it. And unless he actually demonstrated a need to know, I would either refuse or else give him a bogus list.

[blm]

3. It's pretty much what many of us here expected

[Farmer-Rick]

54. When the whistle blower complaint was first revealed

I thought it was strange that everyone thought it was the blackmail of Ukraine that was the complaint. That has been in the news for months. The added tidbit of Trump withholding money the congress has already distributed was just a cherry on top.

But when I first heard about the whistle blower, I thought....selling Americas secrets for fun and profit.

That is what Traitor Trump is doing. Making profit off of our nations biggest secrets. He's a psychopath and if it is good for him he does it.

[blm]

55. Compulsive greed

[Hortensis]

67. Big questions here also. Pushing Ukraine enabled deflecting

the explosion of media attention to their fake accusations about Biden, something they always intended to hit big time anyway. And since Trump's attempt to extort didn't go anywhere, that limited the sensationalism of the story as far as the media were concerned, even if legally he'd committed at least 3 serious crimes.

Meanwhile, if the whistleblower complaint were actually about something far more shocking and dangerous, even treasonous?

[grumpyduck]

6. The question is,

if this is true, will anyone in Congress do anything about it, or just pay more lip service to the public?

[cstanleytech]

16. Not as long as Moscow Mitch remains Putin's Bitch and has enough Repugnant support

to keep the Democrats from realistically being able to do anything at this time.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Doing something about it if feasible is different than

standing up against it. We can not change or enact laws, we can not stop sound regulation reversal, we can not prevent 2020 election interference and we can not stop emergency decrees or executive actions.

But we still have a voice and we can still at least censure or impeach. It won't stop him but isn't it better to have at least raised our voice in opposition? for the history books?

[cstanleytech]

29. Vocal opposition is not the problem there is plenty of that on our side what we need is

the Republicans in the House and Senate to stop being more concerned in staying in office than they are for the country to join in.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Have any ideas on that? We only have control over us.

[cstanleytech]

34. Nope, about all we can do at this point is hope

Pelosi has the goods on Trump and is able to use it against him and the Republicans that are protecting him in the House and Senate.
That means she will likely have to hold off until after the Republicans hold their convention to officially endorse Trump at which point if she has a major bombshell of evidence that she releases it and impeaches him in the House.
That in turn will force all of the Republicans to divert a significant amount of resources at damage control for their backing him and it reduces the chances of their succeeding due to the upcoming elections.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. If there was any shred of evidence, that Pelosi has

the "goods on him or GOP" and is waiting it might be something we could hope for. Hard to deduce that tho...that others wouldn't know about it too and hint that something was big on the horizon. And given her history of being Impeachment averse and her lukewarm support to the idea now it seems extremely unlikely it will happen as long as she is speaker.

[SergeStorms]

37. Maybe a protest....

in Washington of about 2 million people or so. Surround the White House and demand his impeachment or resignation. They can't ignore that, but they can certainly ignore telephone calls, telegrams and emails.

[cstanleytech]

40. I think the Republicans would ignore it without giving it a second thought.

[Catch2.2]

39. No...

Pelosi thinks doing anything against Trump will energize his base for the election. Therefore, Trump will be allowed to get away with whatever he wants.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. And somehow allows him and his surrogacy to spin

whatever it is. And then it fizzles out. Whistleblower already dying down.

[CrispyQ]

60. And not impeaching will demoralize our base.

Trump is historically unpopular. We turned out in record numbers because we wanted this administration held accountable. We will have earned the reputation of being weak if we let this criminal walk.

[unitedwethrive]

7. Whether or not it's true, this will ruin our intel services for years to come

Imagine trying to recruit spies in this atmosphere?

So, on top of the obvious treason, the damage he is creating will live long after he is gone.

[Blue_true]

11. You make an excellent point.

If a person close to a foreign adversary don't believe that our President will protect his or her identity no matter what, why would they risk death to help us? Like you pointed out, even after Trump is gone, the stain he is making will linger, potential spies will have no confidence that American voters won't install another person like Trump as president.

[ArcticFox]

15. I actually decided not to try to get into the State Department

When Trump was elected. Just couldn't envision myself having to push Trump policies.

[Midnight Writer]

33. Ruins our chances for ANY type of treaty or agreement. Why make deal subject to whims of a child?

[mysteryowl]

8. I remember just recently there was a high level American spy in the Kremlin

that was discovered. I can well imagine that person was served on a platter by the lying fool.

[Roland99]

10. Yeah. That was referenced

Russia publishes name & biography of a man living near DC: 9/10/19

And I think NBC News even published his name too

[Fiendish Thingy]

32. It was a Russian working the US

And was extracted and brought to the US in 2017 over fears Trump would expose him.

[gibraltar72]

9. Trump said spies interfere with his personal relationships.

[Blue_true]

12. Did he really say that? How clueless can that be? nt

[Roland99]

14. From CNN:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/10/politics/donald-trump-foreign-spies-skeptical/index.html

President Donald Trump has privately and repeatedly expressed opposition to the use of foreign intelligence from covert sources, including overseas spies who provide the US government with crucial information about hostile countries, according to multiple senior officials who served under Trump.

Trump has privately said that foreign spies can damage relations with their host countries and undermine his personal relationships with their leaders, the sources said. The President "believes we shouldn't be doing that to each other," one former Trump administration official told CNN.

In addition to his fear such foreign intelligence sources will damage his relationship with foreign leaders, Trump has expressed doubts about the credibility of the information they provide. Another former senior intelligence official told CNN that Trump "believes they're people who are selling out their country."

Even in public, Trump has looked down on these foreign assets, as they are known in the intelligence community. Responding to reports that the CIA recruited Kim Jong Un's brother as a spy, Trump said he "wouldn't let that happen under my auspices."

[Qutzupalotl]

18. Putin hates our spies, so Trump does too.

Probably not more complicated than that.

[a kennedy]

13. I heard that as well, and thought what the hell is that all about.

[DemocracyMouse]

17. Can we have a National Sanity Week? One week with Trump placed in a straightjacket with no access to

twitter or his hotline to Putin?

[smirkymonkey]

35. Oh yes, please!

I would kill for a Trump free week. Brilliant idea!

[Baitball Blogger]

19. Is that rule still on the books?

The one that makes it a felony to reveal the name of a spy?

[Roland99]

24. Ayup

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Identities_Protection_Act

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Except for Cheney

[blue-wave]

20. I've been saying

treason for a while now. Yup, looks to be much worse than anyone ever imagined. And they impeached Bill Clinton for what again? America, where are you now?

[triron]

22. Americans are sleeping.

[Aussie105]

23. Clinton's 'fun in the office'

is nothing compared to this. Consenting adults that was. But no consent here from anyone involved.

The way I read it:
Putin: Yo, Donald, you got any spies over here watching me?
Donald: No idea, let me check.
later . . .
Donald: Yes, a few.
Putin: I don't like that. Names please!
Donald: OK, got a pen and paper?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Where are the whistle blowers?

[SergeStorms]

38. Buried under...

tons of legal bullshit from Roy Cohn Barr, head of the Justice Department.

[triron]

21. Trump has committed more than one act of treason, but everyone pretends it's

something else like a joke or some such.

[Aussie105]

25. No joke.

The brown stuff is flying so thick and fast that people are too busy dodging it, trying to understand this NAR (New Alternative Reality).

Nothing to understand, it's just Trump being Trump. Sanity and logic are on holidays.

Dems, get out of your hidey holes and do something!

[moondust]

31. Given the 2017 secret spy extraction

from Russia and Dumpy's ongoing suspicious behavior toward Putin, I would hope the IC has continued to monitor for any further suspicious activity--and that timeline does look suspicious.

[SergeStorms]

36. And yes....

he certainly is that stupid! He wants us to believe that he's aware, at all times, that there are people listening in on his telephone conversations. He can't even remember his wife's name, he'll stare at an eclipse without eye protection after being told not to, he believes no one is listening to his private, confidential conversations at Mar-ma-lado. The man is a complete and total moron!

I hope this is true and it can be documented. I want to have the ticket concession for his execution, all proceeds donated to the families of those who've suffered his border atrocities.

[NCLefty]

41. The DB article says "a search to replace Gordon appears to be the most likely explanation."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-asks-for-list-of-top-intel-officials-amid-intelligence-shakeup

And that woman's tweet reads like click-bait: "Did Trump promise to tell Putin the identity(ies) of one or more US spies?"

Trump is corrupt as hell but we can't let the fever take us to crazytown. If someone produces evidence he did this, I'll be the first to start screaming. :p

[Bernardo de La Paz]

48. Yup. tRump scraping the barrel: "any senior employee who's been at ODNI for 90 days or more". . . nt

[klook]

59. Sending the list to the Kremlin for vetting? (nt)

[lindysalsagal]

43. "or in adhering to their Enemies" works for me.

[BSdetect]

44. How much of this buffoon can we endure? Unlimited it seems.

[BlueWI]

45. Thanks for posting this.

There's an urgent need to impeach based just on what is publicly reported. More to be uncovered too.

[amuse bouche]

50. Gov Weld -R ...just said on Morning Blow...

Trump has committed treason and it's punishable by death

[vlyons]

51. I have no doubt that Trump is a treasonous SOB

So move over Benedict Arnold. Trump has out done you in villainy. And for the same reason. Money, personal wealth. Trump's venal stupidity knows no bounds, no shame, no honor, no virtue.

Oh please please can we indict that SOB for treason after he leave office?

[maddiemom]

53. This is true.

Benedict Arnold served with distinction and was responsible for some major victories in the early years of the Revolution, This was why Washington trusted him so completely that his treachery was such a blow. Feeling that the Continental Congress passed him over for promotion and gave others some of the credit he was due, Arnold's treason was not just about money, and, unlike Trump, he didn't avoid service. Unfortunately, Trump's name will probably never live in the infamy it deserves.

[Bettie]

52. I'm told that writing a sternly worded letter

is all that our side needs to do. Anything more wouldn't be nice.

[Raster]

63. Anything more than a sternly worded letter would be divisive...

...it's only the Constitution and the Rule of Law at stake.

[Bettie]

65. Exactly, after all

must not make them feel bad about their choices!

[Firestorm49]

56. This is what I've believed from the start.

I don’t buy the Ukraine story to be the central issue. The Ukraine debacle may be one part, but the larger, and in my opinion, actual issue, revolved around the why Soviet spy had to be extracted to the U.S. in the first place.

I believe that the Goof In Chief compromised our “national intelligence” (a phrase which by itself is an oxymoron) by divulging the names of our assets in Russia and elsewhere.

Between my hypothetical conjectures, I can understand why a true American would blow the whistle. I think we’re being duped as to the real issue, regardless of how bad of a situation King Donald put himself in regarding the Ukraine.

How long must we wait to save our country? Will it be too little, too late?

[MBS]

57. This is frighteningly plausible.

[Enoki33]

58. Maybe in trying to save our country we have first to recognize a few

hard cold facts. For decades our enemies have been analyzing and searching for the weakest spots in our system of government while inserting their financial tentacles wherever possible into our politics. They are aware that democracies, and indeed capitalism, can devour themselves. And because we are a nation of laws, if you control the legal system through outright corruption you are well on the way to instituting a fascist dictatorship. In tRump, Putin groomed and instituted the perfect tool. Every day we see this unfolding before our eyes to the extent where there are even some who have replaced their initial outrage with a shrug, not realizing that the prime traitor has progressed to a point where he has no alternative but to be ‘re-elected’. That is the only way he can keep himself out of jail while holding unto his ill gotten gains and continue to cement his evil power. Expect from that prime traitor the worst he can do to the nation while his propaganda says the exact opposite. Right now he has the power to do just that. And that is only some of what we are up against. It is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

[Buckeyeblue]

61. I think that would take him down

Maybe not impeachment--although I don't see how anyone in Congress could give him a free pass on disclosing spies and expect to get reelected. I think even the southerners would stay home before they'd vote for that.

[FakeNoose]

64. We read about the Russian spy back in July, however

... the guy had already been extracted from Moscow 2 years earlier. He and his family were already safely in the US under another identity, and Chump doesn't know who or where he is.

The Whistleblower probably knew about the Russian spy, but there's nothing to tell us that he/she "blew the whistle" on Chump over that story. There's a very good chance that it was something completely different. Something that none of us know about yet - and we may never know it.

Chump cannot give Putin the new ID for the extracted Russian spy, because he doesn't know it. The intelligence officers won't give it to him either.

[milestogo]

66. The Republicans would say this is no big deal if Trump did it.

They excuse everything he does, no matter how illegal and traitorous it is.

[Maine-i-acs]

69. Jared did the same for his Saudi overlords

They all had top security clearance though Jared did not qualify

Saudi dissidents known by the US Intel agencies were leaked by Jared to MBS, also these machinations allowed MBS to seize power.

Donald did this for his Russian overlords. Learned who the planted assets and dissidents were in Russia, and leaked them all to Vlad. Suddenly Russia clamps down on dissent with devastating pinpoint accuracy.

Traitorous all around.