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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:42 AM Sep 2019

Does anyone else feel that the Ukraine story...

is just a prelude to a much darker narrative which is being hidden? In some of the original reporting there were mentions of multiple sinister actions but everyone, including the media, seem fixated on this one subject. I really believe there is much, much more going on here.

This is just one of the particulars I have come across, but I think there is more to it:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100212485209
Did Trump promise to tell Putin the identity(ies) of one or more US spies?

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Does anyone else feel that the Ukraine story... (Original Post) dajoki Sep 2019 OP
Yes, it feels like the Ilsa Sep 2019 #1
Very possible there is more to it. mainstreetonce Sep 2019 #2
Trump doesn't turn over "the transcript." He turns over "a transcipt." 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #15
Just enough to convince his followers ... kentuck Sep 2019 #18
I think the whistleblower AND the IG might get a little upset if the issue is something else-- dawg day Sep 2019 #3
I worry TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #4
... Anon-C Sep 2019 #5
I also think this is the real story. N/T onecaliberal Sep 2019 #6
I am waiting for a more credible source, but I think it is very possible. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #7
When he confesses to having done something (tell Ukraine pres to fix Biden).. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #8
Absolutely Raven123 Sep 2019 #9
Yes. The reason why is some of the theories DUers have posted that Mike 03 Sep 2019 #10
Trump was doing Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #11
Exactly n/t dajoki Sep 2019 #22
Read this thread: CrispyQ Sep 2019 #12
Could be. ooky Sep 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #14
Yes the truth remains hidden Sunsky Sep 2019 #16
Tip of the ice cube. H2O Man Sep 2019 #17
Intelligence agencies call this "the limited hangout". Admit to something bad, cover something worse Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #19
Of course ArcticFox Sep 2019 #20
... by a fake head Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #21
Only if Putin asked him world wide wally Sep 2019 #23

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
2. Very possible there is more to it.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:47 AM
Sep 2019

So Trump turns over the transcript and says no big deal and the real truth is never known

Whistle blower should go public..

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
18. Just enough to convince his followers ...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

...that he is being harrassed by the Democrats and the "fake media".

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. I think the whistleblower AND the IG might get a little upset if the issue is something else--
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:51 AM
Sep 2019

And Trump is getting the media to focus on this instead.

If Schiff subpoenas the WB, maybe something will come out. The WB can supply the complaint, even if he/she is afraid to appear in public (Which I understand-- Trump has some extremely nasty fans).

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. When he confesses to having done something (tell Ukraine pres to fix Biden)..
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:02 PM
Sep 2019

The truth of what was really done is much, much worse.

“Please convict me of election fixing, and not demanding enormous kickbacks of US aid dollars”! (Just as example).

Raven123

(4,791 posts)
9. Absolutely
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:03 PM
Sep 2019

The narrative is swinging toward release of the phone transcripts of one call. Next we will hear Bill Barr’s redacted transcript. Not so fast. The Intel Committee needs to hear the entire whistleblower complaint.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. Yes. The reason why is some of the theories DUers have posted that
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

were very close to what is being revealed thus far, but not the entire story. The urgency attached to the whistleblower's complaint suggests there's a second element that hasn't been revealed.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Trump was doing
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

what Putin instructed him to do. Putin and Company have Trump by the short ones and they can pull his Loans at any time.

All about money and Social Prestige .

Response to dajoki (Original post)

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
16. Yes the truth remains hidden
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:14 PM
Sep 2019

While they smear Biden, and the MSM falls for their dirty tricks again.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
19. Intelligence agencies call this "the limited hangout". Admit to something bad, cover something worse
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:28 PM
Sep 2019

Until we see the whistleblower's report, we won't know what we are dealing with.

I contend it is possible the Ukrainian phone call is not the subject of the complaint at all.

There may be something bigger in play.

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