I keep hearing how well "2016" is doing. But I have to ask: where's the VISUAL proof?

[CatWoman]

Anybody witness throngs of movie goers watching this propaganda?

The success or failure of a film is determined by box office receipts, am I correct?

We all know how the GOP keeps its rancid books on the best seller lists.

What's keeping them from buying bulk tickets in order to prop up this POS film?

[gateley]

1. What IS it?

[CatWoman]

2. 2016 is the documentary by Dinesh D'souza

http://2016themovie.com/

[gateley]

7. D'oh! I just watched the filmmaker's interview with Bill Maher! I should have

Googled -- sorry!

[Cleita]

3. How do you know they aren't buying blocks of tickets and giving them away on the cuff.

If not, I'm sure they will when the DVD comes out.

[Cleita]

5. Here we go...free tickets to 2016.

http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20120821/ARTICLES/120829936

Betcha they are doing this across the country.

[gateley]

11. They're not giving them out to the already faithful!

"No proof of affiliation is required, but the TEA Party asks that you affirm that you are of voting age and meet the criteria as an independent, undecided or Democrat."

Reminds me of going to a concert in the 70's w/Jeremy Spencer as the draw, and once there it turned out to be a Children of God lure. My boyfriend and I were separated, guys trying to sell him on the "community", women doing the same with me. Some of these Baggers are just as brainwashed and deluded.

[liberal_at_heart]

4. I just looked at fandango

I couldn't believe it but it is doing better than Premium Rush and Hope Springs. Movies like this do very well. The people who go see them are very motivated. They want to promote the movie and its ideas. Just look at when the Christian tv channels produce a Christian movie. Churches take group outings to go see those things. The good news is is that these were people who already felt this way. It's not like they are really winning a lot of independents over with this movie.

[CatWoman]

6. look up

[liberal_at_heart]

9. it doesn't surprise me that this is what they are doing

that would explain why it is doing well, but most independents are smart enough to recognize this tactic. My husband is an independent and wouldn't go see this movie if they paid him to see it. The people that are seeing it are the ones who already hate Obama. Just like those of us who went to see Fahrenheit 9/11 already didn't like Bush.

[NavyDavy]

14. well i would never say independents are smart enough to recognize the tactic because they voted for

shrub and darth cheney

[liberal_at_heart]

15. excuse me but my husband is an independent and voted for Obama

Comments like that will not win over independents and we do need their votes.

[pwilliamson]

16. 2016

no matter which side you are on and no matter who you decide to vote for in this coming election it is always good to see what the 'other side' is putting out. It is worth it to go and see this movie and decide for yourself whether this is a tactic or informational.

[liberal_at_heart]

21. I will do my own research thank you

I always research the voting record of candidates before I vote for them. I don't need to see a partisan film to be informed.

[tomm2thumbs]

22. welcome to DU - !!!!!

So interesting to hear your point of view

no, really

[Tarheel_Dem]

27. Who the hell wants to pay to be propagandized? I wouldn't even accept one of those free tickets....

they're offering. Good luck next time.

[Skittles]

29. bullshit

I can research enough to find out it is trash and save my money

[still_one]

31. informational bullshit. Makes me wonder about where you are coming from. 2016 is a piece of trash

which has been refuted for its misinformation, outright lies, leaps of logic that stretch the imagination.

In fact it was financed by rickets

You think it is worth it to go see this movie, and enrich these propaganda pieces?

[2pooped2pop]

36. when has the teabagger side

had any real information? It's a fucking bunch of lies and propaganda. It's like a whole lyin Ryan movie in that it is lies.

[rbrnmw]

8. With Mitten's tax returns??

[ailsagirl]

10. I read the following:

Last edited Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:17 PM - Edit history (1)

"2016: anti-Obama movie huge success"
I'd have to hunt down the link. But I thought, what the hell?

[Bolo Boffin]

12. There's bulk tickets, sure.

But it looks to be doing steady business. Movies usually dip down a lot during the week and then bounce up for the weekend. 2016 is staying pretty steady.

And the proof is this Friday. It expanded into 600 more theaters but did just about the same as it had been.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=2016obamasamerica.htm

From over $2,000 a theater last Friday to $933 this Friday? It's still doing decently, but this week will be the high point for number of theaters. It may top $20 million overall, and all for a piece of trash analysis that was debunked the instant D'Souza wrote about it in Forbes magazine 2010.

[railsback]

30. Yeah, definitely bulk like they do for their books.

What Maher did to this guy was embarrassing.

[NavyDavy]

13. like someone on the stephanie miller show said.....fahrenheit 9/11 made 3x the amount of this movie

yet the reich wing said it was one of the worst documentary ever made, and it was full of facts not wishful propaganda and flat out lies......as 2016 is....

[pwilliamson]

17. 2016

Have you gone to see the movie? Is it really flat out lies...I think that no matter what side we are on we should know our enemies. If this is the worst documentary then so be it. But it is worth the ten dollars to go and see for yourself.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Ten Bucks? TEN bucks?

I waited until I could see "Atlas Shat" on Netflix streaming, for free. Which is good, because I could stand about 3 minutes of it, max. You don't need to spend $10 bucks on a movie to know it sucks.

Don't encourage people to spend 10 bucks on crap. The thesis of "2016" is that Obama was "programmed by his Kenyan father to have an anti-colonial mentality which is why he WANTS TO MAKE AMERICA MEDIOCRE"

HURR DURR HURR



remdi95

Let me break "2016" down for you: Short answer? It's FUCKING CRAP. The people busy making America Mediocre are the dimwitted flat-earth creationists and billionaire greedheads that comprise today's Republican Party. They're people like Mitch McConnell, who didn't give a flying fuck about this country and its people for the past 4 years, because actually doing anything to help us recover from Bush's fuckups might make Obama look good.

[liberal_at_heart]

23. I get to see about three movies a year

I will not waste the few precious times I actually get to see a movie on this one.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. No shit. Pay to see that crap? In a THEATER?

You'd have to pay me to sit through the whole thing, and even Mitt Romney doesn't have THAT much money.

[still_one]

33. go back to free republic. The background of these POS that made the movie says everything troll /n

[2pooped2pop]

37. I would not waste my money

an any right wing shit. I know the mother fuckers plan to make you a fucking prison slave. Your grand children will not get the benefit of an education as they are in the process of taking that over now. Use your voucher to buy their program while you teach your kid yourself. THat's what they have planned for you.

I know they will not stop until they have secured everything for the ultra rich. That will include your social security and your medicare. Fuck the fact that you have been forced to pay for it your entire life. They want it. THey want it all. They will destroy this country. This whole fucking planet.

Go see this movie? Why don't I just watch OXYRush Limpballs?

[eShirl]

44. why pay 10 bucks when you can see it free

online or on TV in a few weeks/months

[LiberalAndProud]

20. Did you sign up just to shill for this movie?

I'll watch it when it's on Hulu Plus maybe but not one second before that time. If you want to promote rightwing propaganda, I suggest you will find a more receptive audience for your sales pitch elsewhere on the web.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. He's gone.

And I suspect the answer to your question is, "yes".

"I'll convince those silly libruls to go see this briiiiiiliant fiiiilm, and then they will ALL vote for Romney! yesssss yesssss"

[The Magistrate]

25. Good Work, Sir

A bit in advance of the jury returning, which only makes it all the better....

At Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:01 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1257901

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

obvious troll is obvious, pimping for a right-wing attack movie smearing president Obama, TOS checked, hide so MIRT can deal with the critter

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:13 AM, and voted 6-0 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: This is a board for Democrats. Advocating for "Obama is a commie sleeper agent" conspiracy movies that market in innuendo and factless smears is not permissible by DU rules.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Obvious troll.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Troll.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Thank you.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Thanks. I find myself taking the graveyard MIRT shift, alot.

Often at this hour, it's just me and the spooky wailing ghosts of PPR'd freepsticks.

[Cha]

34. There was someone

on a thread who was even more blatant than this. He "liked" the movie..I seemed to be the only one paying attention to the posts, evidently, because no one else was replying to "in your face Democratic scum" type comments.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1251148

Oh, I see another DUer noticed..

[grantcart]

32. Going to see the candidate there were 4 farmer types who were angrily

demanding their tickets be refunded.

They said that they weren't Obama supporters but that the movie was just a bunch of guys in a room making things up.

They thought that they were going to an impartial movie that balanced two sides to Obama.

Even if they sell millions (doubtful) its only getting to the choir.

[malaise]

35. This piece of crap cannot compete with a dead

Bin Laden.

[madrchsod]

38. the biggest losers are the theater owners

i doubt the crowd who will watch this tripe will spend any money at the concession stand. that`s where the theater owners make overhead. they`ll start receiving more money from the movie the longer it`s in the theater. this film has a short self life so i bet they`ll be pulling the movie off the screen as soon as they start losing even more money.

[Odin2005]

39. It's "doing well" because Corporate McPravda said so.

Just like the Original Pravda said the 5 Year Plan was always ahead of schedule.

[Courtesy Flush]

40. #24 in box office

http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=main&yr=2012&wknd=35&sort=totalgross&order=DESC&p=.htm

[barbtries]

41. i think they probably are.

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/movies/167545205.html

There were 16 people at the Saturday noon showing at the Loews Cherry Hill of 2016: Obama's America, but Dinesh D'Souza's slickly packaged political documentary clearly performed better in some of its 1,000-plus other locations nationwide. According to weekend box office estimates, the anti-Obama film, released to coincide with the Republican convention, was making a relatively strong showing alongside The Expendables 2 and Premium Rush.

apparently the movie is full of lies, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

But even the staunchest anti-Obama factions should be wary of the fallacious content flying around in D'Souza's film.

[spanone]

42. here's the box office numbers.....in hollywood terms, disaster

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=2016obamasamerica.htm

[KharmaTrain]

43. It's Being Whipped By Hate Radio...

That's whose been talking up this piece of shit and continue to do so. It's been a lonely year on the decrepid AM radio dial as one by one the great unhinged candidates fell by the way side. Rushbo and his ilk were left with Bishop Willard...and it's taken a lot to try to rally the bile spewers to fall in line. This "movie" was supposed to be that clarion call...to refocus not on voting FOR Bishop Mittens but AGAINST the black fella.

The "movie" is one hate radio meme after another...the usual affirmation game the shrinking number of brainstems who listen to that crap have come to rely on. It's also a closed loop...the people who are seeing it are those who weren't going to vote for President Obama and any Democrat to begin with...and thus it is and will be an epic fail...

[alphafemale]

45. Mel Gibson's torture porn movie did really well for awhile too.

Same crowds going to this swill I'd imagine.

Didn't change the fact that most of the country was catching on to the fact that Mel Gibson was a raving lunatic and his career was in a death spiral.

Lots of people went to see those Banana Cameron rapture movies. Again same lunatic fringe crowd.

[WanderingAengus]

46. Rave Cinemas sent out an e-mail today

specifically promoting 2016.

As part of their occasional newsletter they suggest that we not "Miss the Most Controversial Film of the Season!" with a jpg of the poster for 2016 and advert copy occupying roughly 8 times the space in the html email as the other two also rans: "The Words" and "Cold Light of Day."

Utilizing the convenient "Send Comments" at the end of the e-mail, I did so, explaining that while I obviously have no objection to the film being screened at their multi-cinema local to us, I do find their unusual extra promotion of it revealing, and politely advised them that my wife and I have rethought our weekly ritual Sunday matinee attendance at their theatre (their ticket sales person even knows us by name), and we will in the future drive a few extra miles to another theatre that is not a part of their chain.

And I un-subscribed to all their mailings.

Their corporate offices are in Dallas (no surprise): "Dallas-based Rave Cinemas, LLC, the United States’ fifth-largest theater exhibition chain, owns or manages 62 theaters and 939 screens located in 21 states across the country under the Rave Motion Pictures and Rave Cinemas brands and has a presence in seven of the top ten Designated Market Areas" - from their corp. web site.

I intend to mail my explanation, in print, to the manager of the local theatre (North Haven, CT).

Let your conscience be your guide.

P.S. Just in case I might have given offense by singling out Dallas, I would note I lived there 14 years, my wife is from Ft. Worth, and we still have family there.