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Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:01 PM

is it technically possible for trump to swap out his VP before impeachment?

Such as to Don Jr or Ivanka?

Thinking they will be elevated if he is booted. I'm sure this would be a GOP-wide plan.

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Reply is it technically possible for trump to swap out his VP before impeachment? (Original post)
EveHammond13 Sep 28 OP
uppityperson Sep 28 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 28 #4
EveHammond13 Sep 28 #7
H2O Man Sep 28 #14
uppityperson Sep 28 #28
RandySF Sep 28 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 28 #11
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 28 #3
Skittles Sep 28 #16
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 28 #38
H2O Man Sep 28 #17
Disaffected Sep 28 #22
klook Sep 28 #25
Buckeyeblue Sep 28 #5
hlthe2b Sep 28 #6
NCLefty Sep 28 #8
yonder Sep 28 #18
Big Blue Marble Sep 28 #21
onetexan Sep 28 #37
Big Blue Marble Sep 28 #45
Clash City Rocker Sep 28 #31
leftieNanner Sep 28 #9
EveHammond13 Sep 28 #12
leftieNanner Sep 28 #15
Me. Sep 28 #10
Drunken Irishman Sep 28 #13
griffi94 Sep 28 #19
at140 Sep 28 #27
ProudMNDemocrat Sep 28 #30
onetexan Sep 28 #39
griffi94 Sep 28 #32
onetexan Sep 28 #40
ddr007 Sep 28 #20
dawg day Sep 28 #23
KBlagburn Sep 28 #33
dawg day Sep 28 #41
Polybius Sep 28 #43
brooklynite Sep 28 #24
KBlagburn Sep 28 #34
solara Sep 28 #26
TeamPooka Sep 28 #29
KBlagburn Sep 28 #35
doc03 Sep 28 #36
Blue Owl Sep 28 #42
jmowreader Sep 28 #44

Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:02 PM

1. If pence quits,yes. It's how we got Ford

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:04 PM

4. But Agnew resigned first. Pence can't be fired.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:05 PM

7. I'm sure trump could bully him into almost anything

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:08 PM

14. Right.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:18 PM

28. That what I said,if he quits, resigns

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:03 PM

2. Yep

But I believe Congress votes on it.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:06 PM

11. A replacement vp has to be approved by both houses of Congress but

Pence canít be fired by Trump because he was elected.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:03 PM

3. No. Pounce was elected and can't be fired.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:10 PM

16. Pounce

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:10 PM

17. Punce.

It's Punce, not Pounce. Please have enough disrespect for him to call him by his real name.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:35 PM

22. Hee hee,

best moniker yet.




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Response to H2O Man (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:02 PM

25. "Ponce" works as well.

Pence is certainly a poser.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:04 PM

5. Both the House and Senate must confirm. So no way Jr or Ivanka get in.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:05 PM

6. Not unless Pence resigns. Trump can't fire him, though he could replace him on 2020 ticket.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:05 PM

8. Absent a black and white link from Pence to this, I'm not sure he's damaged by it.

He's been so good at wallpaper mode. He will claim he knew nothing and jesus would never let him participate in all this corruption, my gosh!

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:22 PM

18. +1. wallpaper mode!

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:32 PM

21. He will be damaged before this is over.

It will come out that he was part of this Ukrainian conspiracy and will either be forced to resign or impeached. The question is will trump be forced to resign or impeached first. A deal Could be made to appoint a caretaker republican president who would promise not to run in 2020. This would reduce the chance of a civil war or violence from the right.

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Response to Big Blue Marble (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:20 PM

37. Wasnt it also feared that the country would be divided, blah blah during nixon impeachment?

Im not worried about that at all. The country is alreafy divided. What would be perfect is if both Dumpster & pence are ousted & we have a President Pelosi

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Response to onetexan (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

45. I agree about President Pelosi

II do think there is more risk now of violence now,because trump is openly encouraging
it.

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:27 PM

31. His never ending obsequious praise of Trump will tarnish him if Trump is impeached

Or, really, even if he isnít. Pence hitched his wagon to a vehicle thatís going over a cliff. The only way to get unhitched would be to disown Trump, and he lacks the intestinal fortitude for that.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:05 PM

9. The new VP would have to be confirmed by the House and Senate

So, NOPE!!! He might want to do that, but there's no way it would get the OK from Congress.

And don't make me barf with that idea!!!

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:07 PM

12. good. I don't want him using this stunt as an additional "poison pill"

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Response to EveHammond13 (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:10 PM

15. I wouldn't be surprised if he's considered this though!

Slimy creep that he is. I'm 100% convinced that he and Miss Princess honestly think she will be the first female US President! First The Orange One stays in office for three or four terms and then Ivanka gets three or four. What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:05 PM

10. I Believe He'd Have To Be Impeached

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:08 PM

13. Trump cannot force Pence out of the VP role. He was elected into it.

He would either have to resign on his own accord, be impeached or Trump decides to not run with him again in 2020 and therefore he doesn't win reelection - but he would only be replaced upon the start of Trump's second term with a new VP.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:23 PM

19. Trump could tell Pence

That he's about to throw Pence's ass under the bus. So, unless he wants Nancy Pelosi to
be president he better resign right now. Then it would be awesome if Trump selected Jeb Bush
to be his new VP. because the only people Trump's base hates more than the Clintons are the Bush's.
Mitt Romney would be a close second. I can only imagine the whiplash Trumps base would get
trying to change directions that fast. The butt hurt would be crippling.

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Response to griffi94 (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:17 PM

27. If Trump bullies Ponce to resign, he will be replaced by.....

the Indian princess Nikki Haley. If Trump is allowed to run in 2020,
Haley will be on the ticket, especially if Warren is the nominee.

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Response to at140 (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:21 PM

30. THAT would be a ploy to get the surbrban women's vote......

And given the current suburban women at this juncture, they are done with Trump.

Anyone with an R after their name is tied to Trump.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:36 PM

39. K&R

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Response to at140 (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:42 PM

32. A large portion of Trumps base

Wouldn't support Haley. Whoever it would be will have to be as fuckin looney
as Trump. So to appease the base you're looking at Gohmert, Nunes, maybe McCarthy.

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Response to griffi94 (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:37 PM

40. Agree. She's brown after all.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:29 PM

20. Is it technically possible? Undecided.

First, as others have noted, Pence would have to resign, be impeached, die from a heart attack. etc. Then, Trump's choice would have to confirmed by both houses of Congress after all the Democratic representatives became extremely drunk.

After that there is the 1967 federal nepotism law that states, "A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."

This law was written after JFK appointed his brother, Robert, to the Attorney General position. The courts have not made a decision as to whether the word "agency" applies to the VP.

See link

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:38 PM

23. No. Pence is actually elected separately.

Trump can replace him as "running mate" at the convention or before the primaries, but Pence would still be VP until Jan 2020.
And theoretically he could still put his name in as VP at the convention, I think. His name will presumably also be on the primary ballots in those states that still have a GOP primary.

Pence is such a lackey, however... maybe if Trump said, "Resign," he'd do so. But then a new VP nominee would have to be named, and go before (I think) both houses of Congress and get approved, and that won't happen quickly. And I doubt they'd ever approve one of T's kids. There's also some rule about two citizens of the same state... it's legal to have 2 NYers on the ballot, but there's some big penalty, like you can't get the electoral votes. (They wouldn't get NY's anyway.)

(I wonder if those state GOPs that dropped their primaries are kicking themselves now that Trump's in trouble.)

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Response to dawg day (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:49 PM

33. The coustitution says...

Amendment XII

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves".

Which means the president and vice president can not come from the same state. This was a problem in 2000 when W. chose cheney as his VP as they were both residents of Texas. Cheney moved his voter registration from Texas to Wyoming, his home state, and was allowed to stay on the ticket.

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Response to KBlagburn (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:37 PM

41. Interesting!

Too bad. I'd love to see the sht hit him in the face if he actually tried to appoint one of his evil spawn.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 08:43 PM

43. You mean January 2021, not 2020 n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:38 PM

24. A replacement VP has to be approved by the House...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:52 PM

34. a majority of the house and senate.

Amendment XXV

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:07 PM

26. Maybe this is why Barr, Bannon, Pompeo, Jared, Ivanka

and 4 Russian Oligarchs are meeting in Italy. Maybe they are grooming Jared or even Ivanka to step into the VP slot. If this rumor is even true. But for sure Barr is there.



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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:20 PM

29. Technically yes, but unless it's for Nancy Pelosi, no.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:55 PM

35. The coustitution says...

Amendment XII

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves". (President & VP cannot come from same state)

Amendment XXV

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:02 PM

36. Doesn't matter if he wants to he just does it. nt

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 08:32 PM

42. That would be the mother of all last-minute substitutions

n/t

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Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 08:59 PM

44. Since a new VP has to be approved by the House and the Senate...

I move we use Trumpler's replacement VP as retribution for the way Merrick Garland was treated, and refuse to hold hearings on any replacement for Pence.

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