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real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:33 AM Sep 2019

Nationally known Turban-wearing police officer murdered by convict.

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:38 AM - Edit history (2)

The man accused of killing Texas county's first Sikh deputy was wanted for parole violation, officials say
By Faith Karimi and Jason Hanna, CNN

(CNN)A man accused of shooting and killing a pioneering Texas sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop was wanted at the time, and that may help explain why the shooting happened, authorities say.

Robert Solis, 47, was arrested Friday, shortly after police say he killed Deputy Sandeep Dhaliwal, an observant Sikh who years ago gained national attention when he got permission to wear a turban as part of his Harris County Sheriff's Office uniform.
Dhaliwal had just stopped Solis for a traffic violation and walking back to his patrol car Friday afternoon when he was shot twice, including at least once in the back of the head, authorities said.

Authorities haven't said what Solis allegedly did to have violated his parole. Solis has been out of prison on parole since 2014, 12 years after he was convicted in Harris County of aggravated kidnapping and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, court records show.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/us/texas-sikh-deputy-shot-saturday/index.html?utm_source=CNN+Five+Things&utm_campaign=4781ecf3e9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_30_07_40&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6da287d761-4781ecf3e9-104928233

It is widely known that in prison, prejudice, divides along racial lines, where new prisoners must join racist gangs - in deadly wars with each other - or go it alone, which is a type of death-sentence.

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Nationally known Turban-wearing police officer murdered by convict. (Original Post) real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 OP
He's not Muslim. Quackers Sep 2019 #1
My mistake; but why so few readers, with all these comments? real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #24
"Turbine-wearing?" johnp3907 Sep 2019 #27
A direct quote, on turbin-wearing, from the CNN article real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #43
Looks like "turban" to me. johnp3907 Sep 2019 #52
On mistake after another today... real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #59
But the article made it clear Codeine Sep 2019 #63
Put the shovel down, dude. Codeine Sep 2019 #58
Yes but still an unusually small number of readers for so few replies: real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #62
The story is days old. Codeine Sep 2019 #64
Yup. cwydro Sep 2019 #66
Why so many replies to "old news" w/ this option? real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #72
We're all wondering why you changed the headline. cwydro Sep 2019 #77
We weren't responding to the news, Codeine Sep 2019 #82
I envisioned his turban was WhiteTara Sep 2019 #73
why so much publicity on this, instead of... real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #74
Because nobody has made an asinine edit Codeine Sep 2019 #83
What kind of RPM's was it pulling? NT TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #70
Go ahead and insult people who wear Turbans over my mistake... real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #75
I wasn't the one delivering the insult. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #76
You should self-delete. cwydro Sep 2019 #78
I assure you we aren't insulting Codeine Sep 2019 #84
Muslim? brucefan Sep 2019 #2
Sikh, not Muslim. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Sep 2019 #4
CNN said no such thing brucefan Sep 2019 #8
What CNN word in the headline is in quotation marks? real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #26
I don't see anything in the CNN article reporting the officer as Muslim. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #9
that was my mistake, which the convict probably also made real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #29
What mistake? You added a false headline on purpose. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #47
It's not CNN, it's the poster Polybius Sep 2019 #10
Sikhs are a completely different non Abrahmaic religion grantcart Sep 2019 #19
Sikh is necessarily NOT Muslim nt d_r Sep 2019 #22
Sikh is absolutely NOT muslim. It is a completely different religion. tinrobot Sep 2019 #23
My mistake; but as you realize, some Sikhs become Muslims; real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #51
Interfaith conversions from Sikhism to Islam Codeine Sep 2019 #61
Still digging customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #68
The officer was Sikh not Muslim. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #5
Muslim? Is that your headline? MineralMan Sep 2019 #6
After finally reviewing replies the headline was changed. real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #53
By then, the harm was already done, wasn't it? MineralMan Sep 2019 #56
What you said. cwydro Sep 2019 #71
Come on man Polybius Sep 2019 #7
Well this is embarrassing. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #11
Exactly. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #50
Good grief, he is Sikh not Muslim. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #12
JFC Sikh is the oposite of Muslim obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #13
My girlfriend saw this after it happened MagickMuffin Sep 2019 #14
Is there a reason you changed the headline sarisataka Sep 2019 #15
mistake on the Turbine - a mistake real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #32
Turbine? Codeine Sep 2019 #35
Maybe just use the actual headline: sarisataka Sep 2019 #40
CHANGE YOUR OP SUBJECT LINE: DEPUTY Sandeep Dhaliwal IS NOT MUSLIM MagickMuffin Sep 2019 #16
Given that you are from New Mexico I am certain DURHAM D Sep 2019 #17
Too much cannabis? grantcart Sep 2019 #20
Is that why the OP gave a "Rec" to their own OP? nt DURHAM D Sep 2019 #48
I always do that! Do politicians vote for themselves? real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #54
You're putting fake news here. cwydro Sep 2019 #18
I got busy, with real work... real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author JHB Sep 2019 #60
Perhaps edit your other post from "turbine" to "turban." cwydro Sep 2019 #67
real Cannabis dumb. nt Codeine Sep 2019 #21
I'm having trouble with the "real" claim, myself. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #46
Indeed. nt Codeine Sep 2019 #55
Ditto. cwydro Sep 2019 #65
Yep. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #80
Agreed. nt Tipperary Sep 2019 #81
Oh, I get it: headdress equals Muslim, right? Aristus Sep 2019 #25
SIKH is not Muslim. CHANGE THE TITLE OF THREAD TxVietVet Sep 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author TxVietVet Sep 2019 #30
Oh, I see what's wrong here... Mike 03 Sep 2019 #31
Maybe the poster doesn't realize the OP can be changed. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #33
Maybe the poster shouldn't have changed it Codeine Sep 2019 #36
Turbine-wearing? Fuck me. nt Codeine Sep 2019 #37
Haven't you ever worn a turbine on your head? leftstreet Sep 2019 #41
Thanks. I needed a visual. littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #49
The power of positive thinking, I suppose. nt Codeine Sep 2019 #57
"Turbine?" johnp3907 Sep 2019 #38
Too much cannabis, too much calm. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #39
You're obviously struggling with this. Just write "Sikh." Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #42
A gas turbine, or a steam turbine? Mike 03 Sep 2019 #44
Hopefully, a wind turbine customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #69
Get a hold of yourself. Jesus. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #45
I'VE GOT YOUR "JESUS!" Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2019 #79
I don't think this was racially motivated LeftInTX Sep 2019 #85

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
24. My mistake; but why so few readers, with all these comments?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:02 AM
Sep 2019

It's 9:03 MTZ and there are only 400 readers. What did the convict think the turbine-wearing police officer was?

watch this video:

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
43. A direct quote, on turbin-wearing, from the CNN article
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:22 AM
Sep 2019

"In 2015, roughly six years after Dhaliwal joined, the sheriff's office made an official policy that allowed him to wear his beard and turban on duty, according to CNN affiliate KTRK."

posted at 9:23 AM, MTZ.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
59. On mistake after another today...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
Sep 2019

For some unusual reason: I too busy; but I do not mean to offend or mock people who wear turbans for religious reasons. Do any replies appear to deliberately mock Turbans?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
63. But the article made it clear
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:46 AM
Sep 2019

that the officer was of the Sikh faith, not a Muslim. Just straight up admit that you had no idea what “Sikh” meant and assumed headgear=Islam instead of making a bunch of half-assed excuses about being busy.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
62. Yes but still an unusually small number of readers for so few replies:
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:45 AM
Sep 2019

The number of readers actually nearly doubled as I posted this reply. It's now over 800 now! But who are all these new readers?

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
72. Why so many replies to "old news" w/ this option?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:22 PM
Sep 2019

Both this "BREAKING NEWS" which I posted first and this mistake-ridden OP news article appeared on "Good Morning by CNN on Monday 9.30.19

The "BREAKING NEWS" about Hon Kong protests has international interest and implications:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212525184

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
77. We're all wondering why you changed the headline.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

A question several have asked, but you’ve failed to answer.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
82. We weren't responding to the news,
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:16 PM
Sep 2019

but rather questioning your inexplicable and pig-ignorant title. You deliberately characterized the victim as a Muslim when the article made it clear he was a Sikh, as the accompanying photograph clearly indicates.

The flood of replies, in short, is directed at you. You have yet to adequately explain your statement.

WhiteTara

(29,693 posts)
73. I envisioned his turban was
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:27 PM
Sep 2019

shaped like a turbine and made his death seem funny; so I didn't want to comment on that. His death is tragic for his family and friends.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
75. Go ahead and insult people who wear Turbans over my mistake...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:32 PM
Sep 2019

But be sure and ignore this important international "BREAKING NEWS" on Hong Kong Protests:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212525184

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
78. You should self-delete.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019

Everyone knows you changed the headline. No idea what your motives are.

Then trying to turn your quite significant “mistake” into casting blame on other posters. Smh.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
84. I assure you we aren't insulting
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:18 PM
Sep 2019

people who wear turbans.

Or even turbines, for that matter. The insult is directed elsewhere.

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. Sikhs are a completely different non Abrahmaic religion
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

Sikhs are necessarily not Muslim and vice versa.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
51. My mistake; but as you realize, some Sikhs become Muslims;
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:31 AM
Sep 2019

So do some US citizens:

Muhammad Ali: Why did the boxing legend change his name from Cassius Clay?
'I am Muhammad Ali, a free name – it means beloved of God, and I insist people use it when people speak to me'

In 1964, the boxing legend who told the world he was “The Greatest” changed his name to Mohammad Ali, dubbing his former alias, Cassius Clay, “my slave name”.

Named Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr after his father, the sporting champion, who died on Friday aged 74, denounced his birth name upon converting to Islam and affiliating with the Nation of Islam (NOI).
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/muhammad-ali-death-cassius-clay-why-did-he-change-his-name-nation-of-islam-a7065256.html

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
61. Interfaith conversions from Sikhism to Islam
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
Sep 2019

are rare, as there is a fairly unpleasant history between the two religions. It happens, but not often.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
56. By then, the harm was already done, wasn't it?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:35 AM
Sep 2019

The fact that the man was of the Sikh faith was in the headline of the story. Why did you change it?

I'm sorry, but you're responsible for what you post here. Please be more careful. That's my advice.

Polybius

(15,338 posts)
7. Come on man
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:38 AM
Sep 2019

You don't know the difference between a Sikh and a Muslim? The article even said he was a Sikh in the first sentence.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
12. Good grief, he is Sikh not Muslim.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:50 AM
Sep 2019

Either way it is a tragedy, but Americans are so poorly informed when it comes to world religion.

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
14. My girlfriend saw this after it happened
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:19 AM
Sep 2019

She is looking for a house in Houston. She was to meet with a realtor when she happened upon the incident. She saw Sandeep Dhaliwal downed. She left immediately afterwards as the place became a huge crime scene.

sarisataka

(18,501 posts)
40. Maybe just use the actual headline:
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:16 AM
Sep 2019
The man accused of killing Texas county's first Sikh deputy was wanted for parole violation, officials say


Just a suggestion

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
16. CHANGE YOUR OP SUBJECT LINE: DEPUTY Sandeep Dhaliwal IS NOT MUSLIM
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:27 AM
Sep 2019

EVERYONE HERE HAS STATED HE IS NOT MUSLIM, YET YOU REFUSE TO CHANGE YOUR HEADLINE.

You can edit the headline to correct your mistake. Or is that your intention???

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
17. Given that you are from New Mexico I am certain
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

that you know the difference between Muslim and Sikhs. So why???

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. You're putting fake news here.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

Numerous posters have pointed this out, yet you not only don’t edit your headline, you fail to respond in your own OP.

Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #34)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
67. Perhaps edit your other post from "turbine" to "turban."
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:09 PM
Sep 2019

Two different words with two different meanings.

But surely you know that.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
25. Oh, I get it: headdress equals Muslim, right?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

Jesus, get your facts straight or find another website. We're fact-based here at DU.

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
31. Oh, I see what's wrong here...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

It's so easy to change an OP headline. It would be really kind to just fix this.

littlemissmartypants

(22,600 posts)
49. Thanks. I needed a visual.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:27 AM
Sep 2019

Seriously, why is it still here? It's this kind of stuff that gives DU a bad rep. At the very least it harms the poster's street cred. I guess it's proof that the Republicans don't have a monopoly on wacky spelling errors, though. :sigh:

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
79. I'VE GOT YOUR "JESUS!"
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212489872

I'm bookmarking both of your articles! Sorry that you had a bad day! Please do not self-delete this evidence Cannabis! I've got both a Conspiracy Theory (for the correct forum) and an irrefutable problem for "real" Democratic Underground writers to be posted in "General Discussion." Get ready to "take a look at these" Freepers!

LeftInTX

(25,151 posts)
85. I don't think this was racially motivated
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:38 PM
Sep 2019

Solis had a huge rap sheet. He was on parole and had an outstanding warrant from 2017 for Assault with a Deadly Weapon.




Robert Solis, 47, had a violent past. He was convicted of two felonies in 2002 for an episode in which he shot a man and then barricaded himself in his home with his 4-year-old son, “with intent to use (him) as a shield,” according to court records.

He was sentenced to 20 years in jail for those crimes, and he served 12 years before getting out on parole in 2014. In January 2017, a warrant was issued for parole violations of assault and possession of a prohibited weapon
.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Alleged-deputy-killer-was-wanted-for-parole-14475427.php



Deputy Dhaliwal was on a regular neighborhood patrol in a very quiet area. Neighbors said he patrolled a stop sign where drivers often didn't come to a complete stop etc. Neighbors heard the routine traffic stop pullover.


Dhaliwal was shot as he went to his patrol car to check on Solis' background






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