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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:03 AM Oct 2019

We know enough.

The facts currently in front of us makes it clear that the President is a traitor. Public opinion on impeachment is shifting but we are in an emergency situation. The President is a traitor and still presiding over the executive branch. He is ramping up investigations into his political opponents against the best interests of the country.

This is an all hands on deck situation. It’s time for Carter, Clinton, Bush and Obama to pen an op/ed. Time to move public opinion along faster. Time to remove the traitor sooner rather than later.

I’m of the beliefs that Democrats are doing a great job. It’s time for past leaders to jump in. It’s time for our past presidents to speak with a united voice.

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Your idea of having previous presidents speak up IMO is right on.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 08:09 AM
Oct 2019

It reminds me of a profound idea Thomas Friedman had, of having Bush, Obama and John Roberts come together and carefully try to extricate us from this disaster through moral leadership.

I also agree with you that this constitutes an emergency.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. That would be interesting
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:59 AM
Oct 2019

to have Roberts with Bush & Obama. I don't think Roberts would be a big fan of many of Trump's actions, but I'm also wondering how removed he is from what's going on with Trump and Barr/Pompeo/Rudy G/etc - would he understand the gravity of the situation?

patphil

(6,159 posts)
4. I would be very surprised if Chief Justice Roberts did not understand the gravity of the situation.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019

There is a pitch battle going on between the Administration and the House of Representatives.
At some point the Judicial Branch will become a major focal point of the whole subpoena thing.
You can bet he and the other justices are keeping a close eye on all of this.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
6. Roberts shouldn't do it.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:21 PM
Oct 2019

As Chief Justice he would preside over the impeachment trial in the Senate. Any show of any possible bias on his part against Trump would be used by his rabid base to delegitimize a guilty verdict.

But having all the former presidents do an OP (and then, to the extent possible, hit the cable shows and make the case in person) is a great idea.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
5. I was going to post and OP on this very point; Obama can speak for Biden and face smash all
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:49 AM
Oct 2019

... of Trumps talking points on Biden acting alone on his own behalf when it comes to getting Shokin fired in the UKR.

Previous presidents need to speak up

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. Agree. We need leadership on the policy/moral front.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:04 AM
Oct 2019

I know it's tradition not to speak but these are not traditional times. We need our nominee sooner rather than later too.

But not sure about Bush. He got away with a war based on fake premises and wasn't impeached. He also has close ties to Barr. Looking to him for moral leadership would be a tremendous stretch?

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