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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDisregarding supeonas is dictatorship.
Continuing to disregard and hold yourself above laws is simply the beginnings of a dictatorship. The deciding factor is the Armed Forces.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)And repeated refusal to honor subpoena can be grounds for impeachment.
dem4decades
(11,241 posts)We'll know whether or not we still have a republic soon.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I don't know what else you call it when the Executive branch effectively shuts down the oversight function of the congressional branch and the remedies (so far) have been fruitless or take so long as to be meaningless.
lindysalsagal
(20,440 posts)because of client/presidential privilege."
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Although if one can show the lawyer is colluding in criminal activity, in theory, that privilege goes out the window. Unfortunately (in this case) it's still on the accusers to prove this is happening ... without the defendant or his/her lawyer having to say jack.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,440 posts)real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)statement to congress (my paraphrasing), Trump will never step down quietly, or he will never leave.
If anyone remembers the exact quote please share it. It would be good to remember.
On edit
I found it:
Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power."
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)one way or another.
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)nm
Kid Berwyn
(14,644 posts)No man, or in the present case, moron, is above the law.
As for the armed forces, they take their oath to the Constitution seriously.
Benedict Donald can cosplay Tony Montana all week at Comicon before the men and women in government service betray the nation or run out of bullets.
Igel
(35,191 posts)There are checks and balances in place, and there are laws Congress simply can't pass and make stick.
Each Congress and each President has had the same kind of tussle. Take, for example, the subpoenas against Eric Holder 4-5 years before Obama's 2nd term ended. He was subpoenaed, executive privilege was claimed, and they negotiated. Until the (D) House was inaugurated in early 2019. It took a few months, but Pelosi and Holder managed to come to the mutual agreement that he didn't have to testify. There were numerous cases in which the Obama administration did comply--but often after negotiations, amending the requests, and limiting the scope of the request. Unless you paid attention to the details, all you saw was, "The House requested, and Obama complied."
Few claimed "dictator" and "above the law." Some on the right did say "coverup". The counterclaim was that the (R) were engaging in political dirty tricks, trying to dig to find anything bad they could make stick against Obama.