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Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:21 PM

Trump wanted to shoot migrants in the legs and a snake-filled moat on the border-NYT

Shoot Them in the Legs, Trump Suggested: Inside His Border War

WASHINGTON — The Oval Office meeting this past March began, as so many had, with President Trump fuming about migrants. But this time he had a solution. As White House advisers listened astonished, he ordered them to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border with Mexico — by noon the next day.

The advisers feared the president’s edict would trap American tourists in Mexico, strand children at schools on both sides of the border and create an economic meltdown in two countries. Yet they also knew how much the president’s zeal to stop immigration had sent him lurching for solutions, one more extreme than the next.

Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

“The president was frustrated and I think he took that moment to hit the reset button,” said Thomas D. Homan, who had served as Mr. Trump’s acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, recalling that week in March. “The president wanted it to be fixed quickly.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/trump-border-wars.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Reply Trump wanted to shoot migrants in the legs and a snake-filled moat on the border-NYT (Original post)
octoberlib Oct 2019 OP
Skittles Oct 2019 #1
octoberlib Oct 2019 #2
dalton99a Oct 2019 #6
SkyDaddy7 Oct 2019 #19
leftieNanner Oct 2019 #3
madaboutharry Oct 2019 #4
dalton99a Oct 2019 #5
Skittles Oct 2019 #7
lunasun Oct 2019 #8
tanyev Oct 2019 #9
Moostache Oct 2019 #17
tblue37 Oct 2019 #10
gratuitous Oct 2019 #11
Moostache Oct 2019 #18
Generic Other Oct 2019 #12
htuttle Oct 2019 #13
catbyte Oct 2019 #14
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #15
Botany Oct 2019 #21
sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #16
Botany Oct 2019 #20
nolabear Oct 2019 #22
spanone Oct 2019 #23
Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #24
ecstatic Oct 2019 #25
Buns_of_Fire Oct 2019 #26
lapfog_1 Oct 2019 #27
Liberty Belle Oct 2019 #28
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2019 #29
Gothmog Oct 2019 #30

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:23 PM

1. he is a sick, SICK man

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:27 PM

2. He's a psychopath, definitely.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:28 PM

6. The American Caligula.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:06 PM

19. I'm 100% serious...

...I don’t think think Trump is mature “man” mentally! …Since he was born he has NEVER had to work for anything & has always had armies of people around doing everything for him! And regardless of how bad he acted as a child, or how many BILLION$ he has lost & lives he has ruined Trump has never been forced to GROW THE FUCK UP & face the consequences of his actions like REAL MEN do!!!

...Trump acts so incredibly immature, says the most ridiculously immature comments & LIES literally on the level of a 3-4yr old child!! Trump, like 3-4yr olds, will tell a lie about X & then later tell another completely different lie about the same exact X! When Trump is confronted with both his lies about X Trump will scream “FAKE NEWS”!!

...At least when 3yr-4yr old children lie it can be funny & cute!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:27 PM

3. Wait. What?

He has a reset button???

Who knew?

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:27 PM

4. He is a psychopath.

Venom flows through his veins.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:27 PM

5. There is nothing but depraved cruelty in him.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:30 PM

7. it sickens me that anyone could continue to work for someone like that

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:30 PM

8. Will it be long before trump decides on "a final solution to the migrant question "

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:32 PM

9. Sounds typical of the ideas you might get from a room full of 8 year old bullies.

At least they would also provide elaborate drawings of how everything should work.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:46 PM

17. If there were Sharpies in the room and draft documents around, he DID provide pictures...

That is a sad, sad commentary on a 72+ year old man to have lived such a pathetic life that as he reaches the back end and should be reflecting on achievements and lamenting lost chances to have made more positive impacts on humanity, he is instead pondering sophomoric, idiotic "plans" for something out of the Roadrunner or Bugs Bunny cartoons.

What next? Drawing a fake tunnel on the face of the wall so they drive into it and kill themselves?

I am embarrassed of and for him every second he keeping on breathing, and every second I hope is the last for that situation...

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:35 PM

10. K&R for visibility. nt

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:36 PM

11. Trump's gone soft

A snake-filled moat? No sharks with frickin' laser beams? Wuss. Wait'll the Proud Boys hear about this.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:48 PM

18. Sneak preview: Jurassic Lord

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:37 PM

12. American Psycho

He is as bad as a supervillain in a comic book!

Once again, I am thinking thoughts I cannot utter.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:37 PM

13. ...and sharks, with frikken laser beams attached to their heads!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:39 PM

14. ...

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:40 PM

15. Absolutely horrible.

A revolting combination of evil and galactically stupid.

(Alligators? In the desert? Dumfuk doesn't even know basic biology.)
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:20 PM

21. And all along the New Mexico & Arizona border we ...

... the highly endangered American Jaguar and the Mexican Grey Wolf too.

He is too twisted to try to talk with.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 05:44 PM

16. Good luck with a water-filled moat in southern Arizona and Texas.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:16 PM

20. Already one in southern Texas it is called the Rio Grande

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:33 PM

22. The fact he hasn't been run out on a rail leaves me stunned.

Do the WH staff and cabinet just think they can keep things going by coddling and massaging and then ignoring the worst of it? The govt is corroding and people are suffering while they seem just to be trying to grab what they can before it all goes up in smoke.

He’s everything we fear and more, but what are they? Are they ALL just grifting or in denial or afraid?

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:35 PM

23. We are in the Twilight Zone

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:41 PM

24. kick

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:06 PM

25. He belongs in a padded cell. NOT the f*cking White House!

I will NEVER forgive rethugs for subjecting our country and the world to this madness. NEVER!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:07 PM

26. He "fumes" about everything. Must be a real treat to be around. nt

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:11 PM

27. arizona / Mexico border



Good luck digging a moat in the mountains... and a most with water implies more or less level ground... not a lot of level ground at the border. And then there is the question of water in the desert.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:14 PM

28. Psychopath and also a sadist, who takes pleasure in hurting people.

He probably ordered Khashoggi chopped into little pieces, too.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:17 PM

29. I thought this was going to be Borowitz or the Onion.

Is there some point at which people recognize Trump is psychotic and needs to be removed via the 25th Amendment? Or is his willingness to appoint right wing judges blinding them to any humanity they had left?

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:32 PM

30. Cost estimates for Alligator filled moats?






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