Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:17 AM
ecstatic (28,489 posts)
trump threatened Lindsey Graham to keep him in line?Have you wondered why @LindseyGrahamSC has been defending @realDonaldTrump like his life depended on it? A friend in federal law enforcement told me about a certain threat @realDonaldTrump has made to Graham. It's personal. It's awful. And it's working very well.
Link to tweet Obviously, Don Winslow's friend could be talking out of his ass. But Graham's 360 is not normal. He even allowed trump to disparage his BFF, McCain, even after McCain's death. If it's true that trump threatened Graham, I wonder how many other Senators/ Congressmen trump has threatened? And what threat is so bad that Graham is willing to betray his country? ![]()
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ecstatic | Oct 2019 | OP |
pangaia | Oct 2019 | #1 | |
ProudMNDemocrat | Oct 2019 | #2 | |
NanceGreggs | Oct 2019 | #4 | |
ecstatic | Oct 2019 | #7 | |
arthritisR_US | Oct 2019 | #19 | |
mr_lebowski | Oct 2019 | #21 | |
arthritisR_US | Oct 2019 | #25 | |
mr_lebowski | Oct 2019 | #56 | |
Baitball Blogger | Oct 2019 | #52 | |
Baitball Blogger | Oct 2019 | #51 | |
dchill | Oct 2019 | #16 | |
2naSalit | Oct 2019 | #41 | |
Skittles | Oct 2019 | #6 | |
AlexSFCA | Oct 2019 | #14 | |
Skittles | Oct 2019 | #17 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #28 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #46 | |
cwydro | Oct 2019 | #49 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #50 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Oct 2019 | #15 | |
Norbert | Oct 2019 | #30 | |
AlexSFCA | Oct 2019 | #54 | |
Tipperary | Oct 2019 | #22 | |
fleur-de-lisa | Oct 2019 | #29 | |
RockRaven | Oct 2019 | #3 | |
Grasswire2 | Oct 2019 | #5 | |
pnwest | Oct 2019 | #31 | |
Garrett78 | Oct 2019 | #8 | |
Patterson | Oct 2019 | #9 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #39 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Oct 2019 | #10 | |
Buzz cook | Oct 2019 | #24 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #45 | |
Funtatlaguy | Oct 2019 | #11 | |
AlexSFCA | Oct 2019 | #13 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #27 | |
Funtatlaguy | Oct 2019 | #32 | |
2naSalit | Oct 2019 | #42 | |
NCLefty | Oct 2019 | #12 | |
Jane Austin | Oct 2019 | #18 | |
Maru Kitteh | Oct 2019 | #20 | |
Tipperary | Oct 2019 | #23 | |
Funtatlaguy | Oct 2019 | #33 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #40 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #47 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #26 | |
Funtatlaguy | Oct 2019 | #34 | |
smirkymonkey | Oct 2019 | #63 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #64 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #35 | |
empedocles | Oct 2019 | #36 | |
lindysalsagal | Oct 2019 | #37 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #38 | |
OldRed2450 | Oct 2019 | #43 | |
octoberlib | Oct 2019 | #44 | |
True Blue American | Oct 2019 | #65 | |
jcgoldie | Oct 2019 | #57 | |
OldRed2450 | Oct 2019 | #58 | |
jcgoldie | Oct 2019 | #59 | |
OldRed2450 | Oct 2019 | #60 | |
jcgoldie | Oct 2019 | #61 | |
OldRed2450 | Oct 2019 | #62 | |
Tommy_Carcetti | Oct 2019 | #48 | |
onetexan | Oct 2019 | #53 | |
MineralMan | Oct 2019 | #55 | |
stopdiggin | Jun 2020 | #66 |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:19 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
1. Newsies should start asking graham what trump has on him... again and again and again and again....
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:20 AM
ProudMNDemocrat (9,056 posts)
2. The possibility of being outed perhaps?
It is no secret that there is and NEVER has been a Mrs. Lindsey Graham in all his years in Congress.
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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:27 AM
NanceGreggs (26,209 posts)
4. I don't think it's any secret ...
... why there's never been a Mrs. Lindsay Graham. 'Outing' him would simply be revealing what's been obvious to most people all along.
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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:40 AM
ecstatic (28,489 posts)
7. Exactly. It's 2019. Nobody gives a shit if
he's gay or not.
Maybe Graham was hacked by Russians and had illegal or embarrassing material in his email or on his computer. Still not worth aiding and abetting a traitor, however. |
Response to ecstatic (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:10 AM
arthritisR_US (6,935 posts)
19. They give a shit if his preference is for
for younger males and not those of his age group.
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Response to arthritisR_US (Reply #19)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:34 AM
mr_lebowski (20,725 posts)
21. There ABSOLUTELY are gay folks, ESPECIALLY of his generation ...
That would be mortified if they were 'outed', even if the whole world basically 'knows', as is case with Graham.
Put on top of it the fact that he's a Senator from Southern State? He grew up in a different time, I'm fairly certain with parents who would've taught him being gay was 100% evil. Even when 'the times change', people don't always change along with them, even when it's to their advantage (one would think) to do so. I absolutely believe it's possible Graham could be manipulated by threats of being outed ... which is not to say that he's NOT also got proclivities toward men much his junior, but I wouldn't say that's a requirement ... to extorting him. Sad as it is, some people would rather die than have 'everyone know', again, esp. people of older generations. As an aside, wasn't it just yesterday a teen took their own life over being outed on instagram? |
Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:58 AM
arthritisR_US (6,935 posts)
25. Good point on all...I'll just crawl away now.
Response to arthritisR_US (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 11:49 AM
mr_lebowski (20,725 posts)
56. Didn't mean it like that, mate :)
Intuitively what you're arguing 'makes sense' in this day and age ... but ... people don't always make sense.
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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:19 AM
Baitball Blogger (38,032 posts)
52. He better start therapy now, because we'll eventually know what it is.
Response to ecstatic (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:18 AM
Baitball Blogger (38,032 posts)
51. This is closer to what may be happening.
Probably one of those who masturbated to some video porn, and that porn was gay.
Doesn't matter what we think. It's working on Lindsay, who has been living a double life. The conservative social circles that he operates in will disown him. |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:39 AM
dchill (27,200 posts)
16. I'm thinking pictures, witnesses, etc...
I'm also thinking Trump laid this on him during that golf outing, and that the real message was from Putin. As usual, Trump was just the messenger boy. That's my take. The change from critic to acolyte was practically instantaneous.
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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:37 AM
Skittles (134,382 posts)
6. believe it or not
not all lifelong bachelors are gay
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Response to Skittles (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:27 AM
AlexSFCA (5,478 posts)
14. of course not but graham does seem to have circumstantial attributes
1. never been known to have romantic relationship with a woman
2. holding anti-gay public positions - a common trait of closeted republicans 3. sending gaydars through the roof with his delicate mannerisms 4. His response to rumors about him being gay « To the extent that it matters, I'm not gay'» - phrasing it like this is pretty much admitting that he is. It’s crystal clear what he meant - he is gay but it has no influence on his political positions. I don’t think that the kompromat is just that. To change quickly like that, it must be something criminal, which very well might be sexual encounters with minors. Think about it, Graham is an accomplice to treason; it must be far more than merely being gay. |
Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #14)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:01 AM
Skittles (134,382 posts)
17. oh I very much believe Graham is indeed gay
I just did not care for the assertion that "lack of a Mrs." = gay (NOT that there is anything wrong with being gay)
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Response to Skittles (Reply #17)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:19 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
28. No, it is worse.
Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #14)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:49 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
46. "sending gaydars through the roof with his delicate mannerisms" Are you kidding with this?
Response to octoberlib (Reply #46)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:06 AM
cwydro (42,195 posts)
49. Sadly, he probably isn't kidding.
Sickening to continue to read this shit here.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #49)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:11 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
50. Yes, it is. I'm tired of it.
Response to Skittles (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:33 AM
PoindexterOglethorpe (18,869 posts)
15. True.
My very best friend in the whole world is a man who has never married, but who I'm inclined to describe as "a flaming heterosexual".
In his case, it really does come down to the fact that he never met the right woman. In a different version of this life he'd have married and had children and would now have grandchildren, but it never worked out that way. |
Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #15)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:37 AM
Norbert (4,302 posts)
30. I have a lifelong friend that never married
Hasn't had a serious relationship with a woman since college. He is as hetrosexual as I am.
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Response to Norbert (Reply #30)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 09:57 AM
AlexSFCA (5,478 posts)
54. but he probably would have answered to a question in a different way
When Graham was asked to address gay rumors, he answered “To the extent that it matters, I am not gay” . He did not say he is heterosexual. It was crystal clear to me that he meant him being gay does not affect his political positions which is unfortunate because it is politics that try to restrict our rights.
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Response to Skittles (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:35 AM
Tipperary (6,930 posts)
22. Thank you .
So sick of this crap.
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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:34 AM
fleur-de-lisa (11,729 posts)
29. I read something several years ago
and now can’t remember the source, but the gist of the story is that Lindsey has a longtime boyfriend who is married to a woman. The boyfriend is in the military and the wife doesn’t know. The story is that Lindsey doesn’t want to harm the boyfriend and his wife.
Surely people who live in South Carolina have heard rumors over the years. I can’t believe they have no clue about this. This is the DU member formerly known as fleur-de-lisa.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:21 AM
RockRaven (8,207 posts)
3. I'm certain Trump would threaten Graham with everything he knows about him...
but it is fucking pathetic that Graham is such a weak coward. What's Trump got? Campaign contributions from Russians? Graham is closeted? So fucking what? That is worth being disgraced in this OTHER way?!
Have some sense of self-worth, you pathetic moist Kleenex! |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:30 AM
Grasswire2 (9,018 posts)
5. whatever this kompromat is, it can't be worse than being known forever as a TRAITOR..
...to one's country and the constitution.
Bezos taught us what to do about blackmail. Run directly at it with the truth, take your lumps, and be free. |
Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:43 AM
pnwest (2,860 posts)
31. So did David Letterman, remember when he
was being blackmailed by a guy threatening to go public about his being involved with an intern? He owned up to it, gave a serious, eloquent mea culpa - and that was it. Nobody talked about it again, and bad guy went to jail I think. I always loved Dave, and admired how he handled that.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:41 AM
Garrett78 (10,721 posts)
8. Graham, though, is one of many Republicans who did a 180. Pompeo, Cruz, etc.
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:46 AM
Patterson (788 posts)
9. Graham flipped after the infamous golf game with Trump
Response to Patterson (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:45 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
39. Did the golf game
Come before the funeral? If so it would explain Lindsey inviting Jared and Ivanka against McCain wishes.
That alone puts him in the dirty dog house with me. Also, the fact they attended when they were not wanted is so low class I have no expression for that. |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:50 AM
The Velveteen Ocelot (93,322 posts)
10. Or it could be that Graham is just deeply amoral and cynical
and has attached himself like a remora to Trump because he likes to be where the power is. He’s an authoritarian follower.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:49 AM
Buzz cook (2,335 posts)
24. Bang on there.
The only threat Lindsey or any other republican needs is they may lose their seat. The only incentive they need is tax cuts for their patrons.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:46 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
45. This. As I said downthread he's also up for re-election in a staunch Trump supporting state.
Since Graham's started being Trump's best buddy , his poll numbers have gone from 40% to over 70%. Graham made a comment that he supports Trump because "it's relevant". It's relevant because he's up for re-election and doesn't want to be primaried. Also, he wants to be close to power.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:50 AM
Funtatlaguy (8,839 posts)
11. Young boys supplied by Epstein?
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:17 AM
AlexSFCA (5,478 posts)
13. it must be something criminal for him to change like that
so your theory is quite probable. Especially if putin has bulletproof evidence.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:18 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
27. That is a thought.
Response to True Blue American (Reply #27)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:43 AM
Funtatlaguy (8,839 posts)
32. Graham just has that creeper look
Like a rogue Boy Scout leader who specializes in a very wrong type of merit badge give and take.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:23 AM
2naSalit (48,959 posts)
42. One of the speculations
at the top of my list.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:54 AM
NCLefty (3,374 posts)
12. Romney was called a "perfectly lubricated weather vane" by someone. I think that works here too.
Hrm.. maybe he's trying to fix Google's second place search-prediction for "lind"? :p
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:06 AM
Jane Austin (9,198 posts)
18. Don Winslow the author?
Just curious.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:26 AM
Maru Kitteh (24,395 posts)
20. guy on twitter selling books says what?
Put up, or shut up.
Graham is just being the same jackass he's always been. |
Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #20)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 03:39 AM
Tipperary (6,930 posts)
23. This.
Anyone can say something vague like that. He should know better.
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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #20)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:46 AM
Funtatlaguy (8,839 posts)
33. Have to disagree
When McCain was alive, he was the biggest anti Russian, NKorea, dictator country guy in the Senate.
Something major changed his attitude toward trump |
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #33)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:47 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
40. Agree!
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #33)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:53 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
47. Yeah, he's up for re-election in a staunch Trump supporting state and when he was
anti-Trump his poll numbers tanked. All Trump had to threaten him with was a primary opponent.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:17 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
26. From the time the camera
Focused on Graham sitting nervously looking all around I began to wonder what was wrong with him. Then I found he had invited Ivanka and Jared to the McCain funeral when John himself and the family made it clear they wanted no Trumps there I knew something was wrong with Lindsey.
His frequent out bursts of sheer rage made it clear he is seething with anger. His rage was so unusual, his turnaround, sucking up to Trump was exactly the same as Trump practically bowing to Putin. Think about that. |
Response to True Blue American (Reply #26)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:47 AM
Funtatlaguy (8,839 posts)
34. Exactly. Huge change in him
Response to True Blue American (Reply #26)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:09 PM
smirkymonkey (58,842 posts)
63. That's what I noticed as well, not just normal anger coming from him but hysterical rage.
I mean, he's really invested in it with his whole heart and soul. I would guess this is almost a life and death matter for him and not simply somebody threatening to out him as a gay man.
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #63)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:11 PM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
64. Much more serious.
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:28 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
35. Graham flipped because he's up for re-electioon.
His poll numbers were in the crapper, a GOP strategist said if an election were held right then , Lindsey would lose. After Lindsey started genuflecting to Trump , his polls rose from under 50% to over 70%. SC is a staunch Trump supporting state. It’s the exact same reason Cruz, Sasse etc are now kissing Trump’s ass. They don’t want to be primaried.
Republican politics in SC is dog eat dog and brutal, they take each other down all the time. If Lindsey were gay , I think it would have come out by now , but maybe not, don’t know. |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:34 AM
empedocles (12,125 posts)
36. Sessions, said as AG, no one had ever 'talked' to Sessions the way
trump did. There were testimonies of the the mobster way, trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen made threats.
Graham more vulnerable than Sessions. [Lindsey, very articulate, could be a tremendous 'flip', if down the road, he decides to go that way]. |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:38 AM
lindysalsagal (14,901 posts)
37. Lindsey took the russian money. They're all going down: frump made that clear
here at camp david:
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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #37)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:41 AM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
38. 4 gone from that group.
Who will ne next?
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:27 AM
OldRed2450 (710 posts)
43. This whole thread is disgusting.
He is gay due to his "delicate mannerisms?" and perhaps he likes younger males? I can't believe this is posted on a democrat board. I'm so disappointed.
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #43)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:38 AM
octoberlib (13,682 posts)
44. It's democratic but thank you. The homophobia is real.
Response to octoberlib (Reply #44)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 01:13 PM
True Blue American (13,295 posts)
65. I do not think
The homosexual thing has anything to do with what is wrong with Lindsey. No one would care. This is much more serious.
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #43)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 11:52 AM
jcgoldie (7,575 posts)
57. A "democrat board"?!?
Its interesting how people out themselves. Enjoy your stay on DU!
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #57)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:09 PM
OldRed2450 (710 posts)
58. I'm sorry you don't like what I said.
Is policing my spelling all you have to say on this topic?
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #58)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:17 PM
jcgoldie (7,575 posts)
59. Oh I agreed with the gist of what you said...
But using “democrat” as an adjective is a slip not a typo.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #59)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:24 PM
OldRed2450 (710 posts)
60. Says you.. and so what?
You attack new people for that? Good Grief!
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #60)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:33 PM
jcgoldie (7,575 posts)
61. Attack?
Nope just making an observation. Have a nice day!
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #61)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 12:38 PM
OldRed2450 (710 posts)
62. "Enjoy your stay on DU"
That seems like a snide remark or at the least passive aggressive insinuation that I would be banned for writing democrat and not democratic.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:57 AM
Tommy_Carcetti (39,764 posts)
48. Without a doubt.
During the campaign, Trump gave away Graham’s personal phone number on national television and urged his supporters to pester him. Graham himself said Trump was terribly unfit to be president.
It was never more obvious this sudden “friendship” was procured through threats, and probably horrible ones. |
Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:23 AM
onetexan (9,261 posts)
53. I had asked this same question and last week someone reminded me that the RNC was also hacked
so the Russians clearly have blackmail info they're using to blackmail Graham, Moscow Mitch, and others. This is the only conjecture that makes sense to me at this point.
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Response to ecstatic (Original post)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:04 AM
MineralMan (137,337 posts)
55. Tell us what you were told the threat is, Mr. Winslow.
Just lay it all out for us. Why wouldn't you?
Innuendo sucks. If you know something, say something. He's gay? Who cares? It would have to be a lot bigger than that. |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #55)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:04 PM
stopdiggin (4,429 posts)
66. exactly. tired of the "teaser" game
You have the story? Then tell us the damned story!
Any real evidence you want to share? Do you know anything .. or don't you? Stop with the cutsie "oh, it must be something bad .." crap. |