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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't hate Mitt Romney.
I just wanted to get this out there. I don't hate Mitt Romney. Sometimes I feel like I am supposed to. Sometimes I feel like HE gets confused with his policies. I am not sure he is a terrible person. I disagree with him. I do not think he has thought this whole "President of the United States" thing through past getting elected.
But he has kids, grandkids, friends and a wife that like him a lot. He just might be a perfectly nice guy who isn't great at campaigning and who doesn't have what I think is the best idea for helping this country forward.
For myself, I think that is a better, calmer, saner place for me to live. Hating him is hard and takes a lot of energy. I think from now on, I am just going to disagree with him. I understand that other people thrive on the heat of hating him, and that's fine. But it is burning me out.
Because if I ignore this:
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Then I have to ignore, this, too:
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And I don't want to ignore either. I think I want to be able to like Mitt Romney and still vote against him as the best thing for the country. I don't expect anybody else to agree, I just wanted to share it.
renie408
(9,854 posts)"Lord of the Flies" way where there is a part of me thinking, "Gee, you don't really know this guy and look at the things coming out of your keyboard!" the whole time I am eviscerating Mitt Romney here and other places.
I caught myself doing it earlier and realized I didn't like me very much. So, just for me and not judging anybody else, I have to stop doing that.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)self-honesty, ability to examine self & consider the point of view of adversaries.
ability to evolve as conscience advises.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)Whether I hate him or not is much less important than that.
He cannot be allowed to "succeed" any more, because his success is destructive to too amy people.
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)Why are you comparing him to Obama? Please point out when Obama has made himself filthy rich by destroying companies for personal profit.
You don't have to hate Romney to know he hates you and me.
He has made that perfectly. So has Ann. They detest us.
Meg_Griffin_1
(49 posts)It's about the FAMILIES and I am going to assume the poster RESPECTS the FAMILY thing!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Obama is teaching his daughters to be community activists.
The poster, like you, overlooks facts.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)to eat just didn't exist..............
Booster
(10,021 posts)then I will hate him for being the SOB I think he really is.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)So he's a family man who loves his grandchildren. Great. Let him spend time with them instead of trying to ruin the country I know and love.
Romney only cares about his own family, and other rich, white, heterosexual families. He wants to destroy poor families, minority families, LGBT families, etc. He's got his -- why should he worry about anything else?
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)Being a "family man" who loves his family is not part of the criteria for being a good President of the United States in my book. It is mostly irrelevant. One can be the best father, husband and grandfather on the planet, but if they don't know shit from shinola about running a country full of diverse people and diverse beliefs, then I don't wan them anywhere near the White House. Judging by his tenure as Governor of Massachusetts, Romney doesn't know shit from shinola.
And, he isn't worth the shit that I scoop from my cat's litter box every day, let alone the effort it takes to hate someone.
glowing
(12,233 posts)of who he is as a person other than those that reached the media... Seems like if you are "in", then he's accepting of you.. but different isn't good. His pranks are not funny (more harmful and directed at making the other person laughed at and possibly scarred)... And he was more than willing to stuff another million dollars into a Cayman account than allow the actual workers of a company to keep their pension after his company destroyed it financially.
To me that says he doesn't have the compassion nor temperament to be a leader of any country. He certainly didn't do a great job in MA as Governor. I think he lacks empathy. He cannot relate to people who his company destroyed. And he's willing to lie about anything and everything; so there is less trustworthiness of him than most politicians (and that's not saying much based on most politicians).
On that basis, I can't see electing him. I think he would finish destroying the country where Mr. Bush last left off. And that I'm left of Obama.. more like Bernie Sanders when it comes to issues (or at least what is said out loud... for all I know Mr. Obama is being practical in a situation where anything he tries to do is blocked).
Freddie
(9,257 posts)Exactly--he is an empty suit with no empathy for those who don't have the advantages he was born with. His opinions are not from his inner values but are things he was told to support by his puppet masters. The one thing he truly believes from his heart is that he is destined to become President of the United States. Not sure if this is from a Mormon prophecy or his own sense of the ultimate entitlement.
Progressive dog
(6,899 posts)Do you honestly think that Mitt would release family photos that did not show him acting humanly?
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)In the business Mitt Romney is in, it is indeed a zero sum game.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)uponit7771
(90,302 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)He doesn't deserve my hate. Plus, I question your reasoning. Our emotions are what they are, you can't help who you love, nor can you help who you hate.
renie408
(9,854 posts)No, oftentimes you cannot dictate your emotions.
But neither do you have to allow them to dictate to you.
siligut
(12,272 posts)I agree, we do not have to listen to or act on our emotions.
renie408
(9,854 posts)I am curious. Is jealousy an emotion? What about fear? Or Joy? Where do emotions stop and behaviors start?
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)White anger
Zealotry
Middle East imperialism
A war on women's rights
A loathing of government coupled with a worship of corporatism
A war on organized labor
Favoring the expediency of the marketplace over the long term good
Serving the privileged and not the poor
renie408
(9,854 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Fear his unannounced policies and how far back they want take America.
renie408
(9,854 posts)How many times have you been shocked at how flatly EVIL 'the other side' thinks Barack Obama is? Or at how cavalierly they dismiss US out of hand because we support him? How many times do WE lament the lack of civility in public discourse because THEY vilify us without making any effort to understand us?
How do you change the world? BE THE CHANGE.
Or not. Whatever works for you.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)of days gone by
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)THAT Gerald Ford?!
Brother. There sure are some people here influenced by total superficialities.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)Why not just oppose social inequality and leave the hate to them?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)then the hatred is well justified, IMO.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)either way, I think. The guy just seems like he has no personality, and is rather bland and boring. I'm sure he has a nice family and all, and wouldn't be as bad as say, Bush the idiot was, if he became president. He seems like a moderate trying to act like a converted conservative, but is faking it.
I did hate Bush Jr., that guy rubbed me the wrong way big time, both his personality and what his horrible political policies were.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)be still and know
(12 posts)If so, then O'Bomba has some 'splaining to do...
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)He has a black heart and he will do or say anything to get elected. He is a despicable human being.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Of course, Goebbels had a family who loved him, too. Until he killed them.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Does matching hate with hate work?
SOMEBODY has to step back and say THIS ISN'T ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, THIS IS ABOUT POLICIES.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)and that individual becomes President, then yes it is about an individual.
Most people who hate Obama hate him for one reason: the color of his skin.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't think his family really likes him. They tolerate him because he has money. He is a horrible person. He thinks his worth is in dollars. And he has no idea who he is. He is a loser. The fact that he has money doesn't make him less of a loser, in fact it may only make it worse. Money can't buy a personality. I think that is what he wants most of all.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)And what good, exactly, is hating ANYBODY doing YOU?
None. It just puts a lot more hate out there.
Like I said, this needs to be about policies, not people.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)He has destroyed companies.
He wants a larger stage to destroy more people's futures (ask Ryan about Medicare).
If such a man does not deserve fear and loathing, WHO WOULD? SERIOUSLY?
Or are you arguing in general that Hatred, being one of the Seven Deadly Sins, is simply not to be countenanced ever?
If so, I'll tell you what: You get Republicans to eschew Avarice; and I'll work on my Wrath.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)People like Romney, who want my rights as a woman taken away, and the rights of anyone not heterosexual, white, Christian, and wealthy.
There should be a lot more hatred of Romney and his policies, enough so that people will use that hate to vote against him in November.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)He doesn't feel sorry for the poor and middle-class families who will be screwed if he gets in office. He doesn't feel sorry for Grandma and Grandpa who will have to resort to eating cat food to survive, or the gay couple who won't be allowed to get married, or the pregnant rape victim who will be unable to get help from Planned Parenthood because Shitt Romney cuts their funding. Those are the ones I feel sorry for, not Rmoney.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)You are correct on every point about Romney. He would devastate this country if he were to get in office Just the fact that he is running is bad enough. If he keeps blowing those dog whistles this nation will become more divided not less. He is stirring the pot of racism, classism, and sexism. But, that makes me feel even more sorry for him. He is a horrible person. No amount of money can change that. He is clearly and has clearly always been floundering around looking for a personality. He is devoid of good qualities. He seems to admire good qualities. He seems to admire people that have them and tries to emulate them and he utterly fails. Worse, he knows he is failing. His lack of confidence in his bullshit shows. He liked being a dictator in his company because he can't handle the challenge of interacting with people on equal footing. I think he needs mental help, I am not saying he is mentally ill oh heck yes I am, people who have good mental health don't go around putting other people down and playing cruel jokes on them. What I am saying though is his mental health is no excuse for his short comings. He needs a lot of help if he is ever to become the kind of person he desperately wants to be.
Or he could just be a world class jerk. I am fine with that either way. I don't need him to be mentally ill to be comfortable with his level of evil.
jxnmsdemguy65
(548 posts)Spot on!
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)I tend to gravitate towards awkward people for some reason. And I hate politicians who are too slick. Say what you will about Romney, he's not slick at all.
He may lie, but he does it unconvincingly. He may smile, but it looks forced. He may try to wear jeans, but looks uncomfortable in them. He might try to relate to regular people, but he fails miserably.
He might be a member of the current incarnation of the Republican party, but he doesn't look like he believes half the crap that's in its platform. He has no natural connection to the base at all.
He reminds me of GHW Bush, just with no resume. Or John Kerry, without a military background.
Guys who would rather be behind a stack of papers, reading through bills rather than in front of crowds, shaking hands and kissing babies.
There's an aspect of that in a politician I find appealing.
I disagree with everything the guy stands for, but of all the people who ran for the GOP nomination this year, minus Huntsman, he was the least crazy.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Make no mistake: Mitt and Ann Romney LOATHE the voting public. Anyone not in their ELITE circle is a necessary evil to be barely tolerated, lied to, manipulated, and ultimately STOLEN FROM.
WE ARE RUBES TO THE ROMNEYS. IF MITT COULD OUT-SOURCE US ALL, HE WOULD. MORE MONEY FOR HIM.
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)not exactly a high bar to jump over, but still....
Romney is who he is, a socially-awkward corporate suit who doesn't relate to regular people and honestly probably cares so little about social issues he's willing to adapt to whatever way the wind is blowing in his quest to gain office.
Everyone else who was running (minus Huntsman) was a batshit crazy true-believer.
There is a difference.
And if Romney loathes the voting public, he probably loathes his own base just as much. He has nothing in common with them - only the boardroom suits he came from.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)have families. They both robbed people of their lives and security.
Jeb Bush: Id Have Been Spanked If I Acted Like Obama...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021233245
Jeb Bush To Obama: Stop Picking On My Brother
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021236542
Let Mitt's family defend him and love him. He has earned by disdain.
jenmito
(37,326 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)I personally do NOT hate anybody .... I recognized long ago hate is a poison within my OWN system, and it hurts nobody but me ...
But here is the kicker - NOBODY ASKED YOU TO HATE ROMNEY, or anybody else ..
You might have inferred it, but that is your own misreading of the intent of others ....
This is all a creation of your own mind .... Nobody demands you hate ...
And to infer that Obama must be disliked because he is a family man is simply absurd ...
lame post .....
mojo2012
(290 posts)multiple choice Romney & Lyin' Ryan will not be good for the country
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I know that type of person and I have to say that it doesn't surprise me that he grew up to become "Mitt Romney".
I'd like to see some humility from the guy and sure as one who attempts to practice Judea-Christian morality I don't hate the human being.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,960 posts)But I expect you already believe this.
jxnmsdemguy65
(548 posts)I would agree that Rmoney is not an 'evil' person. I'm just pissed off at him for promoting ideas that hurt people. Rmoney represents the economic elite of society who are fully aware that that we are firmly ensconsed in peak oil driven austerity; they are firmly committed to maintaining their privledged lifestyles at the expense of middle class and working folks. Plus with all the money that was spent on his campaign, he could have damn near fully funded every strugling food bank in the country. So fuck Mitt Romney.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)But I still see Romney as a despicable human being, and I would cut my own throat before I'd vote for him.
be still and know
(12 posts)gulliver
(13,168 posts)But I don't let them in the tent.
That's like Romney and the Oval Office.
Green_Lantern
(2,423 posts)As Governor of Mass. without having the right-wing down his neck he was a proud progressive Republican.
Unfortunately he had to sell his soul to even be recognized in the GOP.
Now I think he stands for nothing because in just 10 years his views have gone from Teddy Roosevelt to Rush Limbaugh.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Hate is not for me anymore.
I'm still going to mock the shit out of Romney though.
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CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)If you cannot hate the likes of Rmoney, who the hell can you hate? Apparently no one, because I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone more deserving - not when you consider the volume of sheer misery this man would happily bring down upon powerless people, all without losing a wink of sleep himself- because he's a FUCKING SOCIOPATH.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)It's obvious to me that he doesn't give a flying fuck about this country or its people. His entire campaign is a joke. The motherfucker hasn't said ONE thing of actual substance as long as he has been running. All he has is Obama hate and some moronic vague idea that he'll be able to fix the economy that extremely stupid people are willing to believe.
I never thought the GOP could run someone I could ever despise more than George W. Bush. It took them less than a decade to prove me wrong.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Even Bush had character. Horrible character but character nonetheless. He was who he was and he wasn't going to change for anybody. You could either accept him for this or not.
Robme doesn't even have that. He's a fucking chameleon who will become anything he thinks will make him popular. I actually find that more despicable than someone who doesn't even bother to hide what an asshole they are.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)I have learned that the "type " of people Romney wants to represent are not people I can identity with.
He doesn't care about the working class or poor people in America.
He doesn't care if a person has no health insurance or an elderly person looses everything they worked for their entire lives to health care costs.
He doesn't care if children in inner city schools receive a poor education.
He doesn't care that a person works 40 hours a week and gets paid $7.25 an hour while the CEO gets millions in bonuses.
He lives in a different world than most people. He doesn't have any compassion for regular people like you and I
Hate ? it's a strong word and I don't use it often .
I can say I hate everything this man stands for and believes.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)I don't like or dislike him, mainly because I don't know him. He doesn't come across as particularly likable, but who knows what he's like in private?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)The reason the republican party is so crazy is because they have bought into the notion that they have to hate everybody that is different than they are. I will continue to fight against the oppression that the republicans want to impose, but I will not buy into the notion that I have to hate the man. And you're right. It just takes too much energy and is bad for your health to be angry and hateful.
still_one
(92,061 posts)that is a problem.
He wants to ban a woman's right to choose. He want to destroy social security and medicare, and he wants to appoint Supreme Court justices like scalia and thomas
These are thing that came out of his mouth, and his appointment of ryan as a VP only re-enforces those ideas
the truth is, a lot of working people were screwed by the actions of the company he founded, bain capital.
When he has made statement that Corporations are people my friends, that tells you where he is coming from
His campaign is also blatantly lying about President Obama. Maybe you should listen to his speech at the republican convention.
Personally, I don't thing Romney is a nice guy. Yes, he has a family, and he loves his family, but he sure doesn't love the middle class
Whether you realize it or not, this is war, and if we lose this election it will change things for a long time, and not in a good way
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Like he did, is worthy of contempt and hate, IMHO.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)Mitt fucking represents EVERYTHING that is wrong with America and I don't give a flying FUCK if his fucking entitled family likes him - he's fucked over so many other families it is SICKENING
MFM008
(19,803 posts)To hate something, it has to have substance. It has to BE something. This guy and anyone that thinks like R/R. Just go away, we have nothing to discuss.