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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:11 PM Oct 2019

Scoop: Trump's private concerns of an impeachment legacy




Jonathan Swan, Alayna Treene27 mins ago
Scoop: Trump's private concerns of an impeachment legacy


President Trump has told friends and allies he worries about the stain impeachment will leave on his legacy.

Driving the news: In a phone call with House Republicans on Friday, Trump articulated why he really doesn't want this. Impeachment, Trump said, is a "bad thing to have on your resume," according to a source on the call. Two other sources on the call confirmed the substance of the comment, but one said they recalled Trump phrasing it as "you don't want it [impeachment] on your resume."

After making the resume remark, Trump added, "But it's going to make Kevin speaker," these sources said, a reference to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's upside.


Why it matters: These two Trump quotes might seem like throwaways on what was a lengthy and discursive call with allies. But sources who have discussed impeachment candidly with the president say these comments perfectly encapsulate how Trump feels about it: He believes it could help him get re-elected and win back the House. But he doesn't want the history books recording Donald Trump as an impeached president.

Between the lines: Some prominent political analysts, including the New York Times' Ross Douthat, have speculated that the president might welcome articles of impeachment. Sources close to the president say this interpretation is dead wrong. Trump adamantly does not want to be impeached — because he cares, above all, about his legacy.

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https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-legacy-history-9573ee72-5b3d-4a8f-a2cb-47cde705990b.html
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Scoop: Trump's private concerns of an impeachment legacy (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2019 OP
I needed a dose of schadenfreude. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #1
Swan is not someone I would trust. A bit of a Haberman. OnDoutside Oct 2019 #2
I doubt he's making babylonsister Oct 2019 #3
I'm coming at it from the "why is he telling us this" angle. OnDoutside Oct 2019 #6
Maybe the news is he babylonsister Oct 2019 #13
You mean the finely honed legacy of tax cheat, Zoonart Oct 2019 #4
Oh dear! One "stain" on his otherwise spotlessly clean legacy! FakeNoose Oct 2019 #5
When the grape juice of impeachment meets the white shag rug of the Trump presidency. Dagstead Bumwood Oct 2019 #7
He thinks this is going to make McCarthy speaker? DrToast Oct 2019 #8
He does not understand a single thing. MuseRider Oct 2019 #9
Well I assume he means this is going to backfire and Dems lose the house DrToast Oct 2019 #10
You are probably right. MuseRider Oct 2019 #14
Put me on suicide watch Cartoonist Oct 2019 #11
This muthafucka has so many stains that even 'ancient Chinese secret' couldn't help him out. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #12
He has a legacy?!1 All he has is a stain! UTUSN Oct 2019 #15
He is a malignant narcissist and does NOT want to be impeached. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #16
Somebody should put his mind at ease and make clear that his legacy is shit regardless. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #17
It is a tossup to me... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #18
His legacy is tortured children and an abused nation, no matter what else happens. Volaris Oct 2019 #19
Absolutely Laughable.... global1 Oct 2019 #20
"Stain" on his legacy ? It is his legacy ! eppur_se_muova Oct 2019 #21

Zoonart

(11,849 posts)
4. You mean the finely honed legacy of tax cheat,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019

Money launderer, pussy grabbing rapist that he carefully honed BEFORE he became a traitor?


Dagstead Bumwood

(3,621 posts)
7. When the grape juice of impeachment meets the white shag rug of the Trump presidency.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:18 PM
Oct 2019

There's not enough club soda in the world to remove that stain, you cretin.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
9. He does not understand a single thing.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:25 PM
Oct 2019

Unless someone is there to tell him he will almost always be incorrect. My very first thought before anything was how does that happen?

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
10. Well I assume he means this is going to backfire and Dems lose the house
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:27 PM
Oct 2019

There is no polling to indicate that’s a remote possibility.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
18. It is a tossup to me...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:22 PM
Oct 2019

When you study tRump there seems to be evidence of multiple, even severe, personality disorders and the usual list is well known. Considering his life, those disorders have been nurtured and protected by his circumstances and environment. This situation is remarkably different. You could even call it biting off more than one can chew, simply by comparison.

On one hand, the narcissism encapsulates him and drives him, so you would expect him to cling and fight to the very end. However, he is also largely a person who seems courageous and bold superficially and by way of abstraction, but that also might reflect a deeper fear, vulnerability and even cowardice internally.

On the other hand, even though it is evident that there are not many places on his bed sheets left to stain, there are still some factors concerning impeachment that could possibly drive him to resign.

The gravity and public spectacle may be what concerns him as far as his narcissistic evaluation of his legacy is concerned. Narcissists can and do move on to greener pastures when they have been caught and cornered, in some cases, even if they don't like it. The kind of environment and control they require can play into their decisions.

Also, the prospect of having to testify at hearings would put him in the hot seat in a controlled environment for long periods of time which I think would make him very uncomfortable. I base that on having seen some footage of him being questioned in a legal setting and have noticed a very radical change in his demeanor and behavior. So, resignation is not off the table.

Unfortunately, most of what we observe is his public face, (the salesman, bloviator, reality TV host) though we do get an occasional trickle of information about his temperament, etc., from various sources.

I keep in mind that without more access to his personal and private behavior, it is not a good idea to base our estimations on the spectacle he provides alone. In fact, there are some psychological cues that might indicate some opposites in his personality that his behavior compensates for. He has is "tells" and part of his strategy is to evade detection and hide things well.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
19. His legacy is tortured children and an abused nation, no matter what else happens.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019

Fuck him and how he feels.
Nancy, kick him the fuck out of the Office he stole from us, and make the GOP Senate own keeping him there.

global1

(25,241 posts)
20. Absolutely Laughable....
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 08:54 PM
Oct 2019

that he's worried about his legacy.

His legacy was cast well before he ever became president and it went further downhill since then. Impeached or not he will go down in history as the worst U. S. president and a complete fool and loser.

Actually when you think about his worry - it's probably the sanest thought he's had in years.

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