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Sorry about the genocidal betrayal, Kurdish allies (Original Post) Tactical Peek Oct 2019 OP
This is an outrage! Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #1
Is there any way to 'override' this? I've had a pit in my stomach all morning, can't imagine what UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #4
US no longer can be trusted Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #5
It really shouldn't surprise anyone if.. Left-face Oct 2019 #10
I have always liked the Kurds superpatriotman Oct 2019 #2
It is also a distraction and I don't doubt something was dewsgirl Oct 2019 #9
If there were ever a time for protest resignations from the DoD it is Mike 03 Oct 2019 #3
But... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #6
This single issue.. Left-face Oct 2019 #7
well, the 'president' has a trump tower in turkey....now, if syria would build one..... spanone Oct 2019 #8
Trump tower... Left-face Oct 2019 #12
Read this whole devastating thread from McGurk, who worked for trump EleanorR Oct 2019 #11
"The mountains are our only friends" has sadly proven true once again. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2019 #13
Trumper: But her emails SummerSnow Oct 2019 #14
I kind of suspect that... Left-face Oct 2019 #15
Blood on our hands. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #16
Trump is not playing for team USA Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #17
It must be asked, what personal benefit did trump receive for letting the Kurds be slaughered? EleanorR Oct 2019 #18
trump has betrayed the Kurds Gothmog Oct 2019 #19
Besides, Cadet Bonespurs knows more than the generals Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #20
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. Is there any way to 'override' this? I've had a pit in my stomach all morning, can't imagine what
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:01 AM
Oct 2019

the Kurds are feeling. I'm so ashamed of this fake president.

But they need to stop saying the United States is abandoning them..IT'S HIM.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
5. US no longer can be trusted
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:02 AM
Oct 2019

Mattis quit over this plan. The US must not abandon its allies to slaughter. This is against the short term and long term security interests of the US. It's against everything the US has stood for.

Left-face

(59 posts)
10. It really shouldn't surprise anyone if..
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:19 AM
Oct 2019

Suddenly republicans start telling us how much they love Muslims since Trump has given his blessing to Erdogan's Islamic regime."It's all about religious freedom.." eh? I would say it's code for the freedom to kill anyone with the fewest dollars, but they'd find some reason to deny it.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
2. I have always liked the Kurds
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 08:57 AM
Oct 2019

When they were in the fight I felt better.
Betraying them again is a disgusting, shortsighted policy.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
9. It is also a distraction and I don't doubt something was
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:13 AM
Oct 2019

traded to Turkey for this, under our new foreign policy of trading away U.S. reputation for Trump's benefit.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. If there were ever a time for protest resignations from the DoD it is
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:01 AM
Oct 2019

now. There are some still some Mattis loyalists in high positions at the Department of Defense. It's almost impossible to believe they will go along with this.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
6. But...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:08 AM
Oct 2019

We are all extras in Trumpageddon and he gets to say, "You're On Fire!" Didn't ANYBODY read the script? He is the Chosen One, enabled and empowered.

Beyond the insane behaviors, making money off the office, attacks, etc., I haven't seen anyone so openly demonstrate a deep-seated, vindictive hatred for this country as he has and I am beginning to suspect that antipathy extends to the whole World.

He has laid down on us like we are a therapist's couch and his weight is crushing us. This is supposed to be worked out over time in many sessions and privately, not on the World stage.

Left-face

(59 posts)
7. This single issue..
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:10 AM
Oct 2019

The only real reliable ally the US has had in the fight against ISIS will now be decimated no thanks to Trump and his "deal" with Erdogan.
Every single Democratic candidate now should begin hammering republicans every single day over how they can possibly back the treasonous lout. Trump and by extension the entire republican party has now made it clearer than ever that US foreign policy is NOT to be trusted by anyone ever again. Even Turkey should be extremely leary of a stab in the back once any other country or wannabe dictator ponies up enough cash or even offer to find imaginary dirt on political rivals. I wouldn't be too surprised if soon we hear from the Kurds that they found some kind of dirt on Democrats.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
11. Read this whole devastating thread from McGurk, who worked for trump
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:19 AM
Oct 2019



Trump made a similarly impulsive decision when I was managing the policy. I resigned over it and stand by every word in this op-ed. Tonight is a sad replay but seems even worse as US officials had since convinced the SDF that we planned to stay. washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-…

There’s a similar defect at the core of US foreign policies across the board: maximalist objectives for a minimalist president combined with no process to assess facts, develop options, or prepare contingencies. Our personnel are left exposed at the slightest moment of friction.

Bottom line: Trump tonight after one call with a foreign leader provided a gift to Russia, Iran, and ISIS. FWIW, I warned of this here in @ForeignAffairs — and recommended alternatives given the hard realities on the ground and in this White House.

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1181085818493927425.html

Left-face

(59 posts)
15. I kind of suspect that...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:42 AM
Oct 2019

If some backer of ISIS were to tell Trump they had some kind of dirt on any political rival he would suddenly tell us what a wonderful group ISIS is..and how their own actions were and are totally justified all along all in the name of "religious freedom".. Somebody please tell me it would actually shock them to hear such nonsense.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
18. It must be asked, what personal benefit did trump receive for letting the Kurds be slaughered?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:53 AM
Oct 2019

We now know he makes foreign policy decisions based on rewards he personally receives. So what did he get for betraying our allies?

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