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Make no mistake, (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2019 OP
I don't know where this whole impeachment thing is going to go but I do know that Marie Marie Oct 2019 #1
Marie Marie! sheshe2 Oct 2019 #4
Kick his ass out of office Nancy. Ligyron Oct 2019 #2
Hear.... hear! defacto7 Oct 2019 #3
Mme Speaker is going down in history as one of the best Hekate Oct 2019 #5
Hell yes, Hekate. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #6
She's a pivotal figure in our future history. lunatica Oct 2019 #15
Would that ever be great! emmaverybo Oct 2019 #27
Future history? You mean fake news? William Seger Oct 2019 #38
He may live long enough to know he ushered in the first woman President lunatica Oct 2019 #39
Just a question viguy Oct 2019 #7
They don't need one. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #10
She already has the votes to begin an inquiry. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #19
You think the assholes are going to shut up? Ever? ZZenith Oct 2019 #26
Ever? stopdiggin Oct 2019 #28
The impeachment of Andrew Johnson had no such thing occur BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #29
Frankly, I don't care what Repubs say. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #20
Here's the thing radical noodle Oct 2019 #21
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You're quite welcome radical noodle Oct 2019 #30
The more the moRons will stonewall (and get more articles of impeachment) Lock him up. Oct 2019 #24
Well Republicans have lost the right to be heard lunatica Oct 2019 #16
You are correct! sheshe2 Oct 2019 #18
The thinking that the Republicans lunatica Oct 2019 #25
Don't need an excuse, just are rickyhall Oct 2019 #31
The longer this takes the better, IMHO. Watch the Repugs go bezerk! flying_wahini Oct 2019 #37
Video of Nancy saying that, June 5, 2019: greyl Oct 2019 #11
Thank you, greyl! sheshe2 Oct 2019 #14
Do it your way Nancy! oasis Oct 2019 #12
Thanks for this, sheshe2 !!!! Talitha Oct 2019 #22
A "political Surgeon" sheshe2 Oct 2019 #32
KnR Niagara Oct 2019 #33
The blue wave had a baby 👶--trust the parents. nt live love laugh Oct 2019 #34
Kick for Nancy! mcar Oct 2019 #35
Hear! Hear! orangecrush Oct 2019 #36
I love this. Thanks for posting it! StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #40
She nailed it. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #41

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
1. I don't know where this whole impeachment thing is going to go but I do know that
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:57 PM
Oct 2019

we have our best people "on it". Pelosi and Schiff make a formidable team.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
4. Marie Marie!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

We do have the best people on it. They will get the job done.

Will we suffer? Yes. Don will make our lives a living hell until we are done.

Stay strong.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
2. Kick his ass out of office Nancy.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:12 PM
Oct 2019

Oh, it's on now for sure and Trump fears her more than any other human I think.

With good reason too.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. She's a pivotal figure in our future history.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:16 AM
Oct 2019

And she may actually be President for a while, ready to hand the office over to the next great Americans.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
38. Future history? You mean fake news?
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:55 PM
Oct 2019

I do wish there was some way for Trump to read a future history book before he dies. It would be the cruelest possible blow to his ridiculously bloated but extremely fragile ego.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
39. He may live long enough to know he ushered in the first woman President
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:53 PM
Oct 2019

The one that kicked his ass right out of the White House in the middle of his term in high heels and impeccable makeup with just a snap of her fingers.

That’ll hurt!

 

viguy

(13 posts)
7. Just a question
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:43 PM
Oct 2019

I do not know why they do not have a formal vote for an impeachment inquiry. Not doing so only gives Trump and the Republicans an excuse to be assholes.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
8. They don't need one.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:53 PM
Oct 2019
Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall [choose] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." The ambiguous language offers the chamber discretion as to how it conducts impeachment proceedings.


https://www.newsweek.com/why-pelosi-does-not-need-full-house-vote-impeachment-inquiry-1463320

And Trump and company will always be assholes.

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ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
26. You think the assholes are going to shut up? Ever?
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:41 AM
Oct 2019


They would just make up some other rule they claim the Democrats are breaking.

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
28. Ever?
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 03:55 AM
Oct 2019

Damn!
talking heads talk, spinners gonna spin. bloviators gonna ...

and, no .. a formal vote adds nothing .. and actually has a few drawbacks

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
29. The impeachment of Andrew Johnson had no such thing occur
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:54 AM
Oct 2019

The Articles (in several attempts) were brought immediately to the floor for debate and a vote -

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/john_chap_04.asp

Don't let them define history because of their ignorance of it.

sheshe2

(83,718 posts)
13. Frankly, I don't care what Repubs say.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:38 PM
Oct 2019

And I seriously doubt they gave a damn that Clinton's impeachment looked bad since they were as one gunning for the man as one.

every newscast that talks about the non-cooperation of Trump includes "unlike the impeaching of Nixon and Clinton there was no vote before starting it." To enable the Republicans to say this just looks bad. We know the votes were there before the inquiry began, so why not do the formality and take a vote in the House. It just looks better.


I already posted you the articles. They do not need a full house vote. Rule of law.

Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall [choose] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." The ambiguous language offers the chamber discretion as to how it conducts impeachment proceedings.


https://www.newsweek.com/why-pelosi-does-not-need-full-house-vote-impeachment-inquiry-1463320

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #13)

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
21. Here's the thing
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 01:59 AM
Oct 2019

I can give you two possible reasons they might not want to put it to a vote at the moment. First, they can campaign against the Democrats in trump districts by using that vote against them. Second, Republicans may want to point to the vote as being purely political so they will whine and moan about political witch hunts and how it should be dropped because it will never go anywhere... all with the hope that public opinion will start going the other way. Right now polls show that public opinion is increasingly favorable toward impeachment. We just need to keep the pressure on and let new revelations drop every day.

Response to radical noodle (Reply #21)

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
30. You're quite welcome
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:54 AM
Oct 2019

Do you have MSNBC where you are? If so, it's usually a great resource for finding answers to questions like that.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
24. The more the moRons will stonewall (and get more articles of impeachment)
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:16 AM
Oct 2019

The more the voters will conclude they have something to hide, as every new day, new damning informations surface (drip, drip, drip). And we're almost ready to win the court cases on his tax returns, plus there's a big chance we'll get the Mueller Report's un-redacted version + the supporting Grand Jury documents, plus the Emoluments clause violations, plus the Deutshe Bank records...

The more crimes see the light of day, the more the polls will show kick-him-out 'n in jail (probably NY State).

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. Well Republicans have lost the right to be heard
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:22 AM
Oct 2019

They’ve damn near destroyed Democracy. We don’t do what they want anymore.


lunatica

(53,410 posts)
25. The thinking that the Republicans
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:31 AM
Oct 2019

have any say about anything having to do with government procedure is exactly how people normalize this crap. Pretending they’re in any way decent and honorable human beings is unacceptable.

In the last couple of weeks I’ve felt a real release of pent up tension. I feel the Democratic Congress has finally got this. So I’ve backed away a little because even though things are happening everyday, or because of it, the pace is dizzying and disorienting. It’s of no use to get caught up in the minute by minute happenings.

The funny thing is that as I’ve started to relax I find that my shock and outrage are coming back to me even stronger now. It’s been a kind of relief because it made me realize I never normalized Trump’s crazed Narcissism. After all this time I am still truly outraged. Justice has to happen so we can call ourselves decent people.

flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
37. The longer this takes the better, IMHO. Watch the Repugs go bezerk!
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:48 PM
Oct 2019

The more bad press the better. Nancy can sit on her perch and watch them come unglued.

Talitha

(6,580 posts)
22. Thanks for this, sheshe2 !!!!
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 02:01 AM
Oct 2019

As I've said in other threads, Nancy knows what she's doing.
She's got decades of experience, and is a political Surgeon.
Let her do her job.

In Nancy We Trust.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
40. I love this. Thanks for posting it!
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:56 PM
Oct 2019

She respects the impatience of people who show her no respect at all - a true leader.

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