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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRomney's biggest problem going into the debates is Obama.
Not the one Rush and the echo chamber made up -
The REAL Obama.
The Obama that's going to very quietly, professionally, presidentially, eviscerate Romney.
Those motherfuckers don't have a clue.
Mebbe they should watch the debates from 2008.
Mebbe they should review the White House Press Corps dinner......
Their guy, the one who cannot answer any questions at all, is going to have a real bad day.
rug
(82,333 posts)alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...that it won't be chopsticks How UN-AMERICAN!!!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Teddy wasn't really a hundred percent, back then, either--he was having a few issues with his personal life and habits. Even operating at "diminished capacity," though, Ted wiped the fucking floor with the jerk!
It was a sight to behold!
localroger
(3,625 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,412 posts)just to prove he's a regular guy.
spoon.
he's bringing a SERVANT who will be operating the SPORK !
tjdee
(18,048 posts)I cannot stand her. Next to Wolf Blitzer she is my least favorite talking head.
Are they doing a town hall or just straight debates??
If they both get to answer the same question, my whole premise holds.
tjdee
(18,048 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Most people will understand what they're hearing; "Dulce" Crowley and the rest of the MSM's inevitable spin about how well Romney has done will thankfully be less influential, I believe.
susanna
(5,231 posts)http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2012-presidential-debate-schedule/
Crowley's on 10/16 is the only "town hall" format I see so far. This is good news, IMHO. She'll jack that one towards Mitt but then she can't help herself...
progressoid
(49,969 posts)It's gonna be fun watching Joe tear Ryan apart!
penndragon69
(788 posts)will be having the most fun in 4 years while he tears
paul " The Snake " Ryan a new asshole for The Weasels
head to be shoved into!
tjdee
(18,048 posts)Response to cliffordu (Original post)
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Amonester
(11,541 posts)George Romney started what is considered a Tradition now."
Or somethin' like that, among too many batshit crazy lies debunked.
Deer in the headlights will want to chicken out to France before the second debate...
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)time (during the Dem convention) to 'practice' his debating skills?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)... to 'go home and call 211 for help.
I don't think he has taken any question from the media since that screw up!
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)I didn't know about his failure since to talk with the media...thanks!
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)I think HE believes that Obama is going to be easily bullied......
Cha
(297,123 posts)2012 RNC Vid. Not even a line was saved.
LittlestStar
(224 posts)I just read an article where Romney tried to relate to unemployed people by stating that, he too, was unemployed!!! Poor Mittens! Maybe he really does have Aspergers or something (not putting down people who do) but the fact that he is so unaware of what he is saying is bizarre.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)He only makes about two and a half times as much per day as an unemployed person drawing maximum benefits makes per year.
Of course that's after taxes.
He should have no trouble relating.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)"The help is not permitted to speak to me in this manner".
Obama is going to tie him in logic and dissonance knots.
True believers will think Mittens won even though he'll have shat his pants.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)On a side note -
I almost changed my username to "Snarkopolypse Now"
But didn't. Wish I had.
brewens
(13,566 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)He has a bunch of cars to die for, I want them all!
http://www.celebritycarsblog.com/celebrity/barry-weiss/
The Blastolene Decko Liner is awesome! Fab cars!
bloomington-lib
(946 posts)the last one.
Loudestlib
(980 posts)he'll do anything to win. If he doesn't drool all over himself the Republicans will claim victory.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Obama's going to fuck him up.
For reals.
Cha
(297,123 posts)own lack of any knowledge of reality Which is how Eastwood went about it debating with The Chair.
I look for him to smirk and LIE and for PBO to say "Not True"... A LOT.
Edit to add .. "Not True" and to give the concise Facts of why it's NOT TRUE.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Romney will be very stiff and tense, I'm convinced of it. He won't be as relaxed as Obama and that will show to the audience at home. It's one thing that hurt Gore in the 2000 debates - the fact he just didn't feel comfortable in his own skin. Bush did and it helped him overcome nuanced debate answers to win, according to polling, most the debates.
Obama, like Clinton, is very comfortable in front of the camera. Romney isn't. Romney is a very awkward debater, who often looks uncomfortable sitting, or standing, especially when he's pushed on something. Obama can deliver an attack with ease, sit back and smile and not get upset...but I think Romney will. I think Romney will awkwardly laugh at something, or come off as combative, and it won't play well.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Who is still undecided by now?
former-republican
(2,163 posts)Some people don't pay attention to national elections until the debates start.
Look how Hillary's tide turned during and after the debates.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Anyone else remember this Obama zinger from last time around?
penndragon69
(788 posts)And he will absolutely destroy mitt " The Weasel"
in EVERY debate.
It's easy to win against an Empty chair....or suite
in this case.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)The Democratic Underground found a way to hack into the (secret) wire feed that Romney will be wearing. His answers could get very DUzy-liscious.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 3, 2012, 08:49 AM - Edit history (1)
One has to believe that Romney will be wearing one too. As much as I would love to see the device hacked, I doubt it would be feasible. OTOH It seems to me that such a device could be disrupted in some fashion. I hope somebody somewhere, (on President Obama's campaign staff) has had similar notions.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)during the handshake before the debates. He might have been able to disable the device Bush wore.
http://www.salon.com/2004/10/30/bulge_5/
chknltl
(10,558 posts)Unless it were something like a simple smart phone with a wireless earpiece. (Do they even make wireless earpieces?) One would think shutting down or jamming someone's smart-phone difficult at best and possibly illegal. That said, the government for 'security purposes' could I suspect place some kind of jamming device around the building thereby creating a dead zone for all but landline phones.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)and she was like "THAT's what Romney looks like?"
He looks ok in still photos, but I had the same reaction watching him in the primary debates.
Something about him seems off when you see him move and talk.
Obama to me has a natural progression of expressions, even when they're a little goofy looking.
I think it might be that Romney's been hitting the Botox, because he looks like a plastic person, especially around the eyes.
With Obama, the wheels are turning and he's reacting to what he's saying, even when he's laughing at his own jokes like a dork. With Mitt there's just not a lot of facial movement.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Reality.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)But, if we are talking sheer intelligence, Obama wins, hands down.
If we are talking conniving and zingers, don't underestimate the GOP
freshwest
(53,661 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)* ZED, Men in Black
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Barack reminds me of The Rock from the WWF.
Wrestling fans here know what I'm talking about.
Both have serious MIC SKILLS & know how to undo an opponent just through the gift of gab.
Both have ridiculous CHARISMA & can make just a little minor motion look major.
Both have that SWAG that just commands the room.
If Obama could do the People's Eyebrow, the match would be complete.
I just wish Obama would use these skills more heavily in his governance.
He has the power to eliminate the Republican Party & Conservative Movement it houses FOREVER.
He truly is the Transformative Candidate.
I wish he would use his power & cut out these lame Third Way tactics.
Force those fools to play on YOUR terms.
Quit continuing stuff George W. Bush did.
John Lucas
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)-Which is why I recommended your post -the MSM are notoriously intellectually dishonest when it comes to the Democratic presidential nominee. Remember their treatment of Al Gore during the 2000 presidential debates? When he tried to pull Bush up on the facts, they labelled him as elitist and superior and condescending. Yet when Dubya made multiple gaffes during the debates, they indulged him
So I have no doubt that the President will be at his most excellent and will demolish Romney. But the talking heads and the beltway pundits and the other pandering GOP shills in the MSM are going to be doing their best to undermine him (although thank goodness we have people like Rachel Maddow out there). We have to do our best to counteract their crap and not allow them to define the agenda like they did in 2000
tjdee
(18,048 posts)SIGH
donheld
(21,311 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Having to show up..........
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Clinton did better at debating than Obama. But, Hillary that said Hillary had her senate experience over candidate Obama and probably had the edge. Now that Obama has 4 years presidential experience under his belt, he should do great. We'll see. . .