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Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

This Has to Be Asked: Is ISIS a Branch of the Russian Mob?

It is clear that ISIS is an organized crime family that only pretends to be concerned with religious matters. What does ISIS do to promote Allah and Islam? Nothing. Instead they kidnap, blackmail, rape, sex traffic, steal and sell antiquities.

Putin and the current Russian leaders are in bed with the Russian mob. So, what if turning Turkey loose on the Kurds is a backhand way of liberating Russian mob associates in Syria aka ISIS ?Maybe the money made by ISIS is all being funneled into Putin's gazillion dollar secret bank account.

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Reply This Has to Be Asked: Is ISIS a Branch of the Russian Mob? (Original post)
McCamy Taylor Oct 11 OP
WheelWalker Oct 11 #1
greytdemocrat Oct 11 #2
GulfCoast66 Oct 11 #3
mr_lebowski Oct 12 #8
RDANGELO Oct 11 #4
GReedDiamond Oct 11 #5
Mme. Defarge Oct 11 #6
LeftInTX Oct 11 #7
njhoneybadger Oct 12 #9
NCLefty Oct 12 #10
mopinko Oct 12 #11
Mc Mike Oct 12 #12

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:19 PM

1. Well then.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:19 PM

2. OK, sure.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

3. Oh please. They are religious fanatics.

Inoculated from the time of their birth to believe the most misogynistic, homophobic, anti-democratic shit you can imagine.

When they are cutting off people’s heads they truly believe the are doing gods work.

History is full of folks like this. From all religions.

Why do you doubt their claims?

When someone tells you what they are, you really should believe them.

Now, have various powers tried to use them to their advantage? No doubt. The Turks and Saudis come to mind. And since a large percentage of Saudis actually agree with their theology that is where I look.

Because the Saudis regularly cut off people’s heads. In public. Gods will and all.


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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 12:29 AM

8. People like that can be led by actors who only pretend to be 'faithful' ...

Look up Mohammed Atta sometime if you don't recall what was discovered about him post 9/11. He was a nightclub denizen, a womanizer, and a drinker who liked his fancy clothes.

I'd guess rank and file Isis are probably more or less 'what we think they are', but their 'leadership'? Feel like we don't really know shit about THEM ... They could be 'anybody', frankly.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:24 PM

4. strange bedfellows.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:24 PM

5. Sounds plausible to me...I'd put nothing over on Putin/Trump/Erdogan...

...etc, the whole mob.

We are through the looking glass, anything is possible.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:29 PM

6. No, I think not.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

7. We kinda created ISIS

It started due to the loss of Saddam Hussein,the flipflopped power structure in Iraq from Sunni to Shia, and power vacuum left by us.

I'm probably the only person on DU that wasn't crazy about Obama's exit strategy in Iraq. I did not support the Iraq War going in, but Iraq was left in fragments from that war. Bush did not enter the Iraq War with an exit strategy. Iraq did not have a well functioning government when we left at the end of 2011. I know the options going out were not very good for us.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 12:38 AM

9. Say what

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 01:06 AM

10. Mmm... no.

ISIS promotes its radical ideology and kills anyone who doesn't submit. That's their promotion.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:59 AM

11. not the craziest thing i ever heard.

so many of these "religious" movements are nothing but long cons.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:04 AM

12. Genesis of ISIL is that it sprung up under li'l bush's mideast gulags.

I'd put the oil nazi part of the cia behind it, originally.

Those fascists cut a deal with putin to get rump into power, but did they turn over control of an asset? Do you think putin wooed them over?

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