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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUrgent: US official - the situation on the ground is deteriorating rapidly in Syria. Extremist...
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demmiblue
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FirstLight
(13,355 posts)Don't these military decisions have to go through Congress...what about the Pentagon?
How can this stupid idiot be allowed to put so many in danger?
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Igel
(35,274 posts)(Of course, if the Constitution is living, let's just say that Trump can't say he's going to war--"declare" war--but say he can engage in "coordinated, planned hostile acts involving the killing of presumably hostile forces and the taking and keeping of territory", as long as he doesn't declare war.)
Under the War Powers Acts, he can make several kinds of attacks as long as he reports to Congress within so many days. As though if he attacked a country and landed troops, there'd be a real good outcome of either saying, "Sure, prez" or "we order you to get them out, and if it means 10,000 troops die and the population's massacred, well, that's not really *our* fault, is it?"
There's the AUF, authorization to use force, which was intended to be used against AQ in Afghanistan, was worded in a way to fight AQ anywhere, and was used for Iraq and for Syria. All the arguing that "ISIS is really AQ" because then we could blame Bush II for ISIS, when ISIS differed in so many ways from AQ, *justified* sending in US troops into Syria because the implicit and often unrecognized assertion that if the US could fight AQ in Afghanistan, it could fight it in Syria.
But in this case the military decision isn't declaring war or using forces. It's strategic and foreign affairs, and the Constitution really lists those as enumerated powers of the president. And if Trump makes peace and a treaty is involved, then it's the Senate's jurisdiction to approve or reject it.
You know, the same Constitution that enumerates among the House's authority the power to impeach and the power to set its own rules. House doesn't even have a say over treaties.
Don't like it, but there you go.
The Blue Flower
(5,434 posts)It's a retreat.
shanti
(21,675 posts)When has he ever respected anyone's rights?
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)It looks like that decision was like tossing a match in gasoline. One wonders if he knew that Erdogan would escalate this into a potentially major conflict?
I don't see that situation stabilizing at all and it looks like it could really get out of hand now.
It seems that Anal Nero is fiddling while this happens. What a great Commander in Chief.
triron
(21,984 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)appear to have some important "interests" in that region.
I think Putin and Russia are the one's to watch as this continues in regards to actions taken there. There are vast oil and gas reserves in Syria, which, to me, are always a factor in the game.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)He's doing someone else's bidding. All this is by design.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)If they kill our troops then we start by bombing Erdogan residences.