A neighbor kills 4 people eating dinner in a Chicago apartment, police say

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/us/chicago-shooting/index.html


A neighbor is in custody after he shot five people -- four of them fatally -- in an apartment building in Chicago, police said.

The shooting happened Saturday night and a weapon has been recovered from the scene, according to Tom Ahern, a spokesman for the Chicago Police Department.

The suspect -- a 67-year-old retired construction worker -- allegedly shot the victims as they were eating inside a residence, CNN affiliate WGN reported, citing police.

"When he walked into that neighbor's apartment, there were four people at the table eating dinner," First Deputy Superintendent Anthony Riccio said. "For reasons we don't yet know, he opened fire and killed them."

After the shooting at the dinner table, the man allegedly went upstairs and shot a woman, who was hospitalized in critical condition, the affiliate reported.

The suspect is a neighbor who is known to the victims, Ahern said.

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Snip--The deceased are a 66-year-old woman, a 61-year-old man, a woman in her late 30s, a man in his late 40s and the 52-year-old woman, police said. Their identities have not been released by authorities.

First Deputy Superintendent Anthony Riccio of the Chicago Police Department said the man believed to be the shooter has had run-ins with neighbors in the past.

“Most of the occupants inside the building have had problems with him in the past but nothing obviously of this magnitude,” Riccio said. “He’s had confrontations with people in the building before. We don’t know what set him off tonight.”

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[LiberalFighter]

3. Most likely he was set off by someone touching his shadow.

[Karadeniz]

2. Gun control needed! We're too immature and undisciplined to have firearms.

[Tipperary]

4. Chicago has pretty strict gun control laws.

But there’s a huge problem there that’s nothing to do only with guns.

[Baltimike]

5. I wouldn't be surprised if he's white, and they'e not. nt

[rockfordfile]

6. It will be interesting to hear more

[dalton99a]

7. 5th victim dies. Two victims identified: Tsvetanka Kostadinova, Jolanta Topolska

[Demovictory9]

8. mass murder no longer leads news anymore

[Sancho]

9. People Control, Not Gun Control

Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and possess a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language; I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional or mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthiness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of your home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. The license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.) If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, lose, manufacture, modify, or inherit a gun; your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, are referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, or deemed unsafe by a LEO; you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a relicensing process.