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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:54 PM Oct 2019

***This is important bc Eisenberg is the guy who moved the Trump transcript to the TS server

Last edited Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:43 PM - Edit history (1)

DOJ decision not to investigate after whistleblower complaint referred more alarming

NEW: Fiona Hill told House impeachment investigators that John Bolton ordered her to notify a WH lawyer that Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney on a rogue operation with legal implications

(Also was key behind Section 702 stuff just ruled a 4A violation.)

Hill said Bolton instructed her to talk to NSC lawyer John Eisenberg. A spox for Bolton didn’t immediately respond to request for comment

so nsc lawyer john eisenberg knew everything when cia general counsel brought him whistleblower notification, before complaint


And Eisenberg has very quietly been the key person in this cover-up (and a key player in the cover-up of Russia). He's the guy who decided to place the transcript onto the TS server to hide the crimes.

Also, Hill focused attention on Mulvaney. I'll get into why that's so important. But it's the detail that will lead Republicans to vote to convict.













Hill also said Bolton made the following statements to her






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***This is important bc Eisenberg is the guy who moved the Trump transcript to the TS server (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
Aw man, look at all this delicious deceit and sneaky shit, served up hot and tasty by our DR. HILL Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #1
Bolton: "Giuliani's a hand grenade who's going to blow everybody up" Jarqui Oct 2019 #2
Did Eisenberg commit a crime? triron Oct 2019 #3
It looks that way to me. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #13
And Mulvaney is implicated grantcart Oct 2019 #22
Does this mean there is a pubic hair's width of honor with Bolton? 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #4
Bolton is a total asshole but he isn't incompetent or mentally challenged. phleshdef Oct 2019 #9
Exactly! We just need a few more with "that hair width of honor" to come forward or be subpoenaed Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #17
Maybe he saw what happened to the Nixonian bunch of cRooks... Lock him up. Oct 2019 #21
pretty much dead on stopdiggin Oct 2019 #23
and, "Oh, look what broke. And I fixed it." 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #33
Or, he had other priorities like...Iran Crash2Parties Oct 2019 #18
Good point...nt 2naSalit Oct 2019 #27
It is about to hit the fan. Many fans, actually... FM123 Oct 2019 #5
Splish splash, they're all taking a bath! hedda_foil Oct 2019 #6
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #7
knr triron Oct 2019 #8
Baker has corrected the drug deal comment to mean Sondland and Mulvaney. NCLefty Oct 2019 #10
so is this more important than voting on Dancing With The Stars? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #11
John Eisenburg Wawannabe Oct 2019 #12
Good to know, Wawa!! Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #14
Also connected to Devin Nunes kentuck Oct 2019 #31
And this is really just the beginning of many testimonies to come. Progressive Jones Oct 2019 #15
Is impeachment really a remedy... dchill Oct 2019 #16
Where's Harry Potter when we need him IRL? JudyM Oct 2019 #34
The minute anyone not name Trump or Barr is in a position to quash it, Eisenberg is going to jail... RockRaven Oct 2019 #19
for cover up? or personal criminal action? (nt) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #24
Here's the thing about participating in crimes with other people - if ya helped em, it be conspiracy RockRaven Oct 2019 #25
was wondering whether you were pointing toward stopdiggin Oct 2019 #26
kick mia Oct 2019 #20
Drug deal? Mulvaney's in the soup too? The hits just keep coming. Mc Mike Oct 2019 #28
Mulvaney appears to me gab13by13 Oct 2019 #29
So far, it's been two WONDER WOMEN who have stepped forward ... MFGsunny Oct 2019 #30
If a secret server somehow ends up bringing down this administration... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2019 #32
That is a rewarding thought. kentuck Oct 2019 #35

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
1. Aw man, look at all this delicious deceit and sneaky shit, served up hot and tasty by our DR. HILL
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:10 PM
Oct 2019

Well well, sup MULVANEY



WOW YOU PACK OF LOSER LAMEBRAINS, CHEEZUS

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
2. Bolton: "Giuliani's a hand grenade who's going to blow everybody up"
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:10 PM
Oct 2019

and "I'm not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up"

Earth to Liz Cheney and Leningrad Lindsey: how do you spin that .. credibly?

Rhetorical question.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
9. Bolton is a total asshole but he isn't incompetent or mentally challenged.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:45 AM
Oct 2019

He will always be a piece of shit for the roles he played in our most recent wars. But he isn't stupid. He isn't about to sacrifice his own clout or legacy to someone like Trump, whom I doubt he ever respected to begin with. Bolton probably went in there thinking he could take control and get Trump on the neocon track but it didn't work out that way and Trump was blatantly breaking laws right in front of him. He is an asshole but is also part of an asshole old guard that didn't function that way.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
23. pretty much dead on
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:49 AM
Oct 2019

Never any love lost .. but Bolton (like others) thought he could "contain" and "control" the Trump agenda. Turns out there isn't really any Trump agenda. Trump just does sh*t (much like a bratty child) .. and then tries to pretend either 1) he didn't do it, or 2) that was what he planned to do all along ..., because, blah, blah, blah, blah

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
18. Or, he had other priorities like...Iran
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:48 AM
Oct 2019

And really didn't like the way the administration kept getting distracted by trumps short attention span.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
10. Baker has corrected the drug deal comment to mean Sondland and Mulvaney.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:01 AM
Oct 2019
One person in the room during Hill’s testimony initially said Bolton mentioned Rudy in the quote, but two others have now said he cited Sondland: “I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up."



Hermit-The-Prog

(33,324 posts)
11. so is this more important than voting on Dancing With The Stars?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:04 AM
Oct 2019

Wonder why the Coward-In-Chief would be so concerned about Spicer's performance.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
31. Also connected to Devin Nunes
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:59 AM
Oct 2019
https://investigaterussia.org/players/john-eisenberg

<snip>
Eisenberg is one of two of the President’s lawyers who reviewed intelligence documents gathered by Ezra Cohen-Watnick and leaked to Representative Devin Nunes, chair of the House Committee on Intelligence. Eisenberg, along with Michael Ellis, another White House Council lawyer who previously worked for Nunes, allegedly believed the classified material would be helpful in proving President Trump’s unsubstantiated claim he had been wiretapped by the Obama administration.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
19. The minute anyone not name Trump or Barr is in a position to quash it, Eisenberg is going to jail...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:00 AM
Oct 2019

or at least be prosecuted, whatever the outcome may be once a jury is involved.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
25. Here's the thing about participating in crimes with other people - if ya helped em, it be conspiracy
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:13 AM
Oct 2019

misdemeanor or felony, don't matter -- if ya "do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy" ya done fucked yourself. 18 USC 371

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

I don't know, personally, what he did or did not do exactly. But obstruction or misprision of felony, or conspiracy to do the same, seem like possibilities given the general scenario.

The minute you have investigators and prosecutors who have a) integrity and b) free rein, people who obviously enabled criminal behavior, or covered it up after the fact, are totally screwed (in a just world, which obviously we are not living in, entirely). That is part of the M.O. of life-long criminals like Trump; enmesh as many people as you can in your own misdeeds, because they will then have a personal self-interest in covering up and obstructing, and you reap those rewards without owing any specific favors...

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
26. was wondering whether you were pointing toward
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:20 AM
Oct 2019

him specifically being the one to order transcripts locked down. And whether that was a criminal action.
Thanks for the response.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
29. Mulvaney appears to me
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:47 AM
Oct 2019

to be a guy who will crack like a dropped egg. These "tough guys" are really cowards.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
30. So far, it's been two WONDER WOMEN who have stepped forward ...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:55 AM
Oct 2019

... in their respective capacity and competence to speak truth to power.

A grateful nation should continue to sing your praises!




Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
32. If a secret server somehow ends up bringing down this administration...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:08 AM
Oct 2019

....it would be the finest example of poetic justice I could ever remember.

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