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(5,535 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,909 posts)unless he becomes physically unable to be President or goes so bonkers that hes throwing feces at reporters or something like that.
Impeachment and conviction are more likely to happen.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Because conviction is so, so unlikely.
As for hurling feces at reporters, I don't think that'd do the trick. I wish I was kidding.
Turin_C3PO
(13,909 posts)youre right that a conviction, at this point, is very unlikely. My hope is that we pull 5 or 6 Republican Senators to convict so that its bipartisan.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Tar and feathers added to his attire wouldn't hurt.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)Just as long as he's removed. Get him out NOW, before he totally destroys this country. It may be too late already.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Fuck politics. Sorry, but that's why I'd be a bad politician :p
Takket
(21,528 posts)eventually, if the cabinet protests, it would go to a Congressional vote which would fail (believe it requires 2/3 of both houses)
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)He has been showing signs of severe mental illness for months. Those responsible for refusing to remove this nutjob from office need to be locked up, an the keys thrown away.
Hekate
(90,556 posts)...an "acting" position. Cabinet members have not been through the Senate confirmation process, or any kind of vetting at all. They are all Trump's creatures.
In such circumstances, who among them would even dare bring this up, much less find a majority of Cabinet members to vote with them? There is no honor to be had there.
The responsibility for getting rid of this traitor rests with we, the people, at the ballot box. It also rests with our Democratic representatives, who can expect little help from the cowardly Republicans. And -- shades of the Nixon era -- we the people also have the additional option of taking to the streets en masse to let our fury be known.
We can expect no help from the Executive branch. It's on us and our representatives. Be sure to call and write them. Encourage the Democrats. Save your wrath for the Repubs.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)ooky
(8,908 posts)impeach and convict him for incompetence and cowardice before he gets anyone else killed and gives Putin anymore victories. If we keep waiting we are going to wake up one morning and learn he has nuked somebody. The House and Senate must act NOW, he is out of control and dangerous.
canetoad
(17,136 posts)By Brian C. Kalt Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 8:00 AM
Public discussion of the 25th AmendmentSection 4 of which provides for transferring an incapacitated presidents powershas been simmering throughout the Trump administration. After every odd or unnerving public statement by Trump (most recently: crudely altering a weather map with a Sharpie, tweeting a baffling explanation of his use of the word Liddle, and raising the specter of a civil war if he is removed from office), one can find his adversaries on social media questioning his mental fitness. They fume that only cravenness or corruption can explain Vice President Pence and the Cabinets failure to invoke the 25th Amendment. If the 25th Amendment doesnt apply to President Trump, they ask, who would it apply to? Whats it even for, then?"
But Section 4 has worked just as it was intended. The failure so far to invoke Section 4 is a reflection of the 25th Amendments design, not a perversion of it.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-25th-amendment-really