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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:05 PM Oct 2019

TPM Breaking: And there it is, the other quid pro quo.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-big-dirty

The Big Dirty
By Josh Marshall

October 18, 2019 4:54 pm

And there it is, the other quid pro quo. Notorious Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash would help Rudy and DiGenova and Toensing cook up dirt on Joe Biden. In return, they’d work with Trump to get US corruption charges against Firtash tossed. Firtash has been fighting extradition to the US on federal corruption charges since 2014.

From Bloomberg …

Associates of a Ukrainian oligarch fighting extradition to the U.S. were working to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden last summer in an effort to get Rudy Giuliani’s help in the oligarch’s legal case, according to three people familiar with the exchanges.

Dmitry Firtash, charged with conspiracy by the U.S. and living in Vienna, shuffled lawyers in July to add Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing, vocal supporters of President Donald Trump who had worked with Giuliani. Around that time, some of Firtash’s associates began to use his broad network of Ukraine contacts to get damaging information on Biden, the people said.

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TPM Breaking: And there it is, the other quid pro quo. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
Rudy is such a slimy viper snake full of venom. magicarpet Oct 2019 #1
Why the need to insult venomous viper snakes with such vile comparisons to Rudy?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #6
Oops,... vipers are cute and lovable,.... sorry magicarpet Oct 2019 #7
That's a nice way to resolve issssuessss. (ssssnake reference.) erronis Oct 2019 #11
He is worst than that. Blue_true Oct 2019 #22
Bag of vipers Traildogbob Oct 2019 #37
k; r CatWoman Oct 2019 #2
you gots to do dirty work to manufacture 'dirt' Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #3
K and R...... tableturner Oct 2019 #4
And Toensing's kid was hired by the DOJ EleanorR Oct 2019 #5
Hate to think that these snakes have some roots in Vermont. The magapathogen spreads everywhere. erronis Oct 2019 #12
"magapathogen" - brilliant. And exactly on point. dchill Oct 2019 #14
"MAGApathogen" MontanaMama Oct 2019 #20
MAGA pro quo Captain Zero Oct 2019 #30
Please steal, reuse, etc. I'm thinking that just magapath will work fine. erronis Oct 2019 #25
Oooh! MAGApath MontanaMama Oct 2019 #34
WOW !!! How could the DOJ pay that kid more than 50 cents an hour he's totally unqualified for uponit7771 Oct 2019 #16
Ah, nepotism. It's OK if you're a Republican! nt crickets Oct 2019 #35
Why doesn't the Committee subpoena Toensing and de Genova ? kentuck Oct 2019 #8
Couldn't they claim Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #9
This Sounds Like The Barr Operation DallasNE Oct 2019 #10
Where are Livia Lone and Lisbeth Salandar when we need them ?? pangaia Oct 2019 #13
I am out of expletives Hekate Oct 2019 #15
I sure wish the media would stop saying "dig up dirt" ...like there was something to FailureToCommunicate Oct 2019 #17
YEP Cosmocat Oct 2019 #18
Or "manufacture dirt" pandr32 Oct 2019 #36
Colludy Rudy Jailiani: Lock. Him. Up. Hassler Oct 2019 #19
Dinner at the White House WHILE facing corruption charges. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #21
Just HOW MANY people were trying to dirty up Biden? Dump must really be afraid Biden will beat him. flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #23
Why is Guli not jail? rickyhall Oct 2019 #24
They will try to flip him on trump and Putin. And he will rat them out to save himself. McCamy Taylor Oct 2019 #27
Oh, yeah. rickyhall Oct 2019 #28
Did they really think the CIA/NSA/FBI and Pentagon would not be all over this like a hobo on a you McCamy Taylor Oct 2019 #26
Uh, a hobo on a you know what? No I don't know. Clue? Captain Zero Oct 2019 #32
Ah-ha! Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #29
DiGenova and Toensing are a horror show. madaboutharry Oct 2019 #31
"The"other? More like "YET ANother quid pro quo..." n/t TygrBright Oct 2019 #33

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
6. Why the need to insult venomous viper snakes with such vile comparisons to Rudy?!?!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:43 PM
Oct 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. He is worst than that.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:29 PM
Oct 2019

He has zero morals, about where Trump is in that regard.

I don't know how true it is, but it was written that when 9/11 first started, Rudy was in bed with his mistress getting a quickie before going in to work.

Traildogbob

(8,683 posts)
37. Bag of vipers
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:15 PM
Oct 2019

Stephanie Miller and Jim Ward always joked about the mob leaving "bags of vipers" to attack their enemies. Gooliana is one viper in the massive bag Putin and his mob leaders have thrown into our nation. When ya get bitten by those nasty fangs of Gooliani there is more danger of infection other than just venum. Have ya seen those bottom fangs?😱

EleanorR

(2,388 posts)
5. And Toensing's kid was hired by the DOJ
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

The son of one of President Donald Trump’s most vocal defenders has a new gig in Trump’s Justice Department. Brady Toensing—whose mother Victoria Toensing and and step-father Joe diGenova are key players in the rapidly growing Ukraine scandal—joined the DOJ in June as a senior counsel in its Office of Legal Policy.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/brady-toensing-justice-department/

erronis

(15,183 posts)
12. Hate to think that these snakes have some roots in Vermont. The magapathogen spreads everywhere.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:31 PM
Oct 2019

I know vaccination might be possible.

But the best disinfectant is bright light. Sunlight and transparency.

Barr'ing that, chlorine bleach.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
20. "MAGApathogen"
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oct 2019

Just excellent. May I use it?

And, you got my mind a workin’...MAGAdiseased. MAGAdemented. MAGAbraindead. MAGAstoopid. MAGAmoran. The mind reels.

erronis

(15,183 posts)
25. Please steal, reuse, etc. I'm thinking that just magapath will work fine.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019

"maga" for the maggot in the WH.
"path" for a pathogen, or also pathetic.

MAGApathetic.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
16. WOW !!! How could the DOJ pay that kid more than 50 cents an hour he's totally unqualified for
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

... whatever I think their kid is qualified for / sarc

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
10. This Sounds Like The Barr Operation
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:20 PM
Oct 2019

But it is all entwined anyway so does it really matter. Barr, as AG, will give it a better appearance than Giuliana as well. Never mind that it will be fully cooked.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. Where are Livia Lone and Lisbeth Salandar when we need them ??
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:35 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:24 PM - Edit history (1)


...and Mikael Blomkvist, and John Rain and Dox?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
17. I sure wish the media would stop saying "dig up dirt" ...like there was something to
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:51 PM
Oct 2019

actually dig up.
They should say "manufacture lies about..." instead.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. Just HOW MANY people were trying to dirty up Biden? Dump must really be afraid Biden will beat him.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

Has anyone heard of Trump sending his goons to dig up dirt on anyone of the other dem POTUS candidates?

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
26. Did they really think the CIA/NSA/FBI and Pentagon would not be all over this like a hobo on a you
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019

know what? Maybe the fact that the CIA looked the other way for the Bush Family and the Pentagon looked the other way for Cheney/Halliburton made them think they would look the other way for Trump. What idiots!

Captain Zero

(6,785 posts)
32. Uh, a hobo on a you know what? No I don't know. Clue?
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:08 PM
Oct 2019

Never heard of that turn of phrase...first letter of the answer for clue #1 ?

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
29. Ah-ha!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:00 PM
Oct 2019

... Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing are involved. Sure sign of bottom-feeding corruption. Case closed. Lock those two up and throw away the key!

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
31. DiGenova and Toensing are a horror show.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:08 PM
Oct 2019

They are two of the most vile people. It would be rich to see them both disbarred for their corruption.

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