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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMeghan Markle: "Not many people have asked if I'm ok..."
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LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Press sucks when you are a royal.
Cha
(297,123 posts)birthday 20 years apart.. August 4th.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Cha
(297,123 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)I feel the same way about that as I do with celebs who cry "just leave me alone!"
YOU put yourself in the spotlight.
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)You, on the other hand, are free to do so.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)And hardly ever in a good way.
No one can prepare for that kind of scrutiny. And to say shes whining seems a bit misogynistic to me.
She was asked a question and she answered.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)a. Marry a royal
b. Get into the movies or on TV
so that is not a realistic scenario for me.
Oh and playing the misogyny card. . .quelle surprise.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)If not, who set you up to be a judge of one that did?
You have no context to judge Megan. None.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I cant possibly understand what it would be like to be in her shoes, but she really seemed to be in pain in that clip.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)You just posted on a public discussion board.
We COULD doxx you, find out all your personal information and post it online. Within hours you could find the press outside your door.
Some videos of you (poor baby) running from your door to your car could go viral.
All of a sudden you are whining about all the attention (or loving it?).
But, hey, YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE.
Meghan married the man she loved. BUT SHE PUT HERSELF OUT THERE?
Give me a fucking break...
handmade34
(22,756 posts)forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)She may be speaking of the press right now, but there is also total exhaustion, hormones, and loss of autonomy.
I always cringe when someone says that you will never know true love until you give birth, and that is true, but for most women those early months are so hard, regardless of the amount of help they get. Its been almost 30 years but I still remember looking at my bundle of joy and wondering when the happiness starts.
It does start, and you will feel the joy, but the beginning isnt all roses.
Im glad she spoke up!
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)DFW
(54,335 posts)My wife, who is usually stability in person, had to be practically restrained after the birth of our fist child. Another woman we knew briefly actually jumped off a bridge into the Elbe in Hamburg and committed suicide after giving birth because no one was around to take care of her. It doesn't matter how rich or beautiful or famous you are. This can strike any woman, and sometimes with unsparing severity.
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)My husband was working for a foundry that was running on overtime. He was working 60-70 hours a week, which was very welcome at that time.
I remember my Mom, and my Mother in law making a surprise visit to see their new Grandson. I was so embarrassed because I hadnt had the strength to clean the apartment all week. They both realized the situation and never said a word, but both pitched in and cleaned up the place.
Because I was exhausted, and depressed, I just let them do it.
To this day, thirty years later, I remember that day, and the gratitude I felt!
The best gift you can give a new Mom is a month or two after the birth. Go clean their house, or give them an hour or two away from the baby.
DFW
(54,335 posts)Luckily, I knew what might be coming, and knew it would pass, but it got heavy at first. With our daughter (her baby was born in May of last year), we prepared her, and she was never alone or anywhere near it, so nothing bad happened.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)I was 22 and overwhelmed having just had an emergency C-section. Another wife who's husband was also in the same squadron mine was in called me and said she wanted to help. She was in her 40's and had no children, and she showed up with her suitcase and spent 4 weeks practically living with me. Best friend I ever had in my life.
My husband didn't see the baby until he was 6.5 months old, I NEVER would have made it without her help. Thanks forever Molly O'Connor.
Having a newborn is exhausting and so difficult. Molly used to say, "I know you feel like you have been hit by a truck, but it will get better."
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)I used to say "run over by a Mack truck"! 38 hours of labor will do that to you.
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)Followed by complications.
It was a good thing I had prepared meals ahead of time and stocked my pantry. I was weak for two months.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)Its certainly not a walk in the park for some of us! Many other countries national health services provide a nurse or home health aide to new mothers after they go home with a new baby. Oh how I could have used something like that! I was really weak for about 2 weeks, but not as bad as you.... Of course my husband was at work all day so I was left home alone with the baby. No parental leave back then,either
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)You fall in love, you don't choose that. You can only make the choice to run away from that.
stopdiggin
(11,292 posts)Jake. Try not to be such a d*ck. You'll get better over time.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She married for love. No one deserves to be hounded everytime they go into public.
Just imagine how you would feel if you could not go out for a sandwich without flashbulbs flashing in your face or people you don't know writing opinion pieces on how you looked or acted.
Please get a sense of life balance. People make choices that are difficult for them based upon noble reasons.
tman
(983 posts)I live in the UK and know how nasty the british media are, but she married into a circus and surely knew what to expect.
Also, most of the public know how scummy the british tabloids are so she shouldn't take it to heart.
A royal playing the 'victim' will not win her support, as harsh as it sounds.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)And, yes, you do sound harsh.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)what living as a Royal is really like. It looks glamorous from the outside. We rarely get a glimpse of the reality of such a life.
Going from being an actress to being a Royal had to be a huge culture shock.
Personally, I think they are a really cute couple.
Hang in there.
RandySF
(58,728 posts)Celebrities are human beings, too,
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Perhaps the paparazzi shouldnt even be called the press. But maybe you dont care about such unimportant differences.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)MuseRider
(34,104 posts)of course she married a Royal knowing she would be under the scrutiny of the press. All those things but she is still a human being.
She is not like Ivanka whining when she is cold as ice and has everything she wants. Meghan is expressing things that have little to do with the privilege and everything to do with being a new mom in a spotlight. I remember being a new mom not in the spotlight, it is hard enough that way.
My guess is that she has a lot of support in all the right/wrong ways. It sounds very much like nobody really cares much how she feels they just do their jobs and leave it at that.
She looks truly in need of personal attention. Her relationship could be first rate and wonderful but you need more than that in her position I would expect and I hope she gets it. The look on her face when she thanked him for asking said it all. I just wanted to hug her.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Plus she has had all those problems with her wacky American family
MuseRider
(34,104 posts)anything about all of that. I don't ever follow that. That does not mean it is not important though. Whatever it is she certainly does not need that, especially now.
If I had been in her position I would have lost it publicly. I cannot imagine the pressure and I do not do well with people who want to pressure me into a certain form. I doubt she liked it much either.
I can imagine so many ways her life could be misery even with a loving husband and family. It takes a special kind of person, or one born into it to be able to manage without occasional problems.
I just cannot imagine. I wish sending Internet hugs helped. If they did she would have thousands until she felt more cared for. It will not be long until that baby will start filling that need for her.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)a person like that can wreak a lot of havoc on his family.
(She has never said anything like that about him. I am making my personal diagnosis of him based on his mean, attention-seeking, and self-serving behaviors.)
MuseRider
(34,104 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Jealousy does that to people.
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)now is totally unreasonable. One positive action I learned about recently is that Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (Sussex is one of my ancestral homelands) have entered a lawsuit against the British tabloid the Mail. If Harry and Meghan can't get satisfaction in a British court then I don't know who can. FYI: I put one person I encountered in this thread on Total Ignore. Thank goodness we have remedies when we find we're dealing with fools and miscreants.
Gothmog
(145,086 posts)She is an amazing person and I feel for her
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the marriage of a black woman into the "sun never sets" white colonial British royal family will be seen as a great moment marking a giant change of eras, but of course the ugliness in the minority of people who viciously oppose change doesn't just get switched off like that.
Sounds like sometimes there's just no more room to suck it up, even for them. At least, at 5 months, the the unrelenting exhausting struggles nature requires until babies are able to raise their heads and turn over are in the past and life's become a much happier series of exciting new triumphs and adventures.
The increased freedom that comes with each new ability gained by the baby means a bit of regained freedom from his intense, existential need for the parents. My trauma was long ago, but boy do I remember.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)doubt if she was whining, everybody is allowed to complain about the weather.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)how well she has handled her role. It takes a strong person to do that. Their recent tour of Africa had to be exhausting for her yet she did a great job. I wish the best for her.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)You signed up for this sweetie! Now you want sympathy?
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)I believe she is looking for empathy. They are different. Calling her sweetie is quite condescending. I have always enjoyed your posts, especially the ones about dog training, but you sound quite out of your element here.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)One of the worst got banned, but therere others.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)The thread about teens drinking, I didn't have time to clarify what I was saying but when I read my post again it sounded stupid. Sorry about that.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Dont remember that, but then again, I rarely remember anything from DU from day to day.
But no worries!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...I totally didnt meant that thing I said about you either.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Well played.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Celebrities who whine about their celebrity. It's like the guy who wins the lottery then complains about paying the taxes.
nini
(16,672 posts)You just proved her comments are justified.
mcar
(42,298 posts)Really?
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)A racial component going on with Meghan also that most folks let fly right over their head. I've followed Meghan for several years--before she even met the Prince--and she was always a socially conscious young woman. She was/is a big Pres. Obama supporter as well--a friend of both Michelle & Pres. Obama. Anyway, some of the things I read on various British publications were so viscious, and most definitely racist in nature. So, of course she's not going to like that. Who would? It's more than just marrying a Royal. There most definitely IS a racial component behind the mix in situation with Meghan and she's pissed I'm sure, and I don't blame her for hating racism--even though she has not aluded to it to my knowledge. And many of the comments by people on various British websites when she got married were shameful.
BBC fires presenter for tweeting racist pic comparing Meghan Markle and Harry's baby boy to monkey.
Racists are piling in on Prince Harry for getting engaged to Meghan Markle
https://babe.net/2017/11/27/prince-harry-meghan-markle-racist-23003
And to keep it real, there are African-Americans who have said that she is NOT black, and that she should just say she's white. NON-black. Gonna be difficult for her to do that, especially since she has an African-American Mom, who raised her to be a strong woman who always remembers where she came from, to always be socially active and to always know that the 'world' is about all of us together here and living in it.
Raine
(30,540 posts)turned into the public's business. I wouldn't have the life of a royal no matter how many material things went with it, it wouldn't be worth it.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)phylny
(8,378 posts)Prince Harry lost his mother when he was terribly young. Say what you will about Diana, but evidently she received very little support from the royal family. I think the cameras and the attention is one thing, but Meghan has had to deal with horrible press that has little to do with what she does and who she is and everything to do with hate, racism, and untrue rumors. She wasn't complaining in the interview I saw, she was answering a question and saying that yes, it's difficult to be a newlywed and a young mother and to deal with the pressure she's been under. Note that Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, has not been subjected to the same amount of hatred.
Sometimes I wonder if people have any empathy left for others.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)It feels not only stupid (like most celeb stuff IMO) but it essentially killed Diana. She died so the average person who reads gossip rags could get their fill.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...is that the apparent avid consumers of the product which killed Diana are the ones casting asparagus.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)ecstatic
(32,679 posts)To be that vulnerable and open about her struggles mean it's probably 10 x worse than she let on. I hope she is receiving good medical care in case it's an extended and/or severe bout of post-partum depression.
coeur_de_lion
(3,676 posts)Go have a baby in as a woman in a public position. Then watch as the world vilifies you for the way you hold your baby, the clothes you wear, your requests for privacy, the fact that you are 1/2 black, your family is nuts and you have other famous black friends.
I like her, and I feel for her. But if I didn't like her I would just keep my damn mouth shut.
What I've seen are people who don't like her, and call her out for every real or imagined misstep. Publicly, in a very ugly, racist, way.
I saw the same kind of ugly racist criticism of Michelle Obama. Only her kids were older and her marriage wasn't brand new. It was still fucking hard for her. I can't imagine how it would have been for her if her kids were infants, she gave birth while living in the White House, and had maybe a little postpartum depression.
I think at least publicly, Meghan's done incredibly well. You need to go soak your head.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Movie star marries a Prince. And becomes a real, true to god princess. Something that I think should in some way offend all believers in a republican form of government. It obviously does not.
Now, I feel sorry for her. Post-departum depression is a real thing. And her race is definitely being used against her. But spare me if I save my real sympathy for the woman making $15 an hour dealing with that depression while having to raise 2 other kids with no help from nannies and a billion Pound bank account.
She knew what she was signing up for. And all these post about she married for love!
Pretty easy to love a guy with that kind of cash. Especially when he is good looking and by all indications pretty charming. But dont forget her husband had a somewhat sordid past. But then, so do I.
Ive got nothing against her, but cant see why liberal Americans give a shit about monarchy and why they take up so much space on DU.