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Meghan Markle: "Not many people have asked if I'm ok..." (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2019 OP
Americans love her. She has lots of support just for being her. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #1
She and Pres Obama share the same Cha Oct 2019 #3
Gotta love that. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #4
lol.. I know.. I do! Cha Oct 2019 #5
She marries a British prince and then whines about media attention? Jake Stern Oct 2019 #2
Go away. n/t demmiblue Oct 2019 #6
Nah Jake Stern Oct 2019 #9
Shame on you! secondwind Oct 2019 #59
Say that when you are followed, accused, and fabricated every second in your life. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #7
I also have no plans to Jake Stern Oct 2019 #8
Good thing I'm thinking. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #12
We have plenty of royal haters here. Surprised they've not made an appearance yet. cwydro Oct 2019 #13
WOW. Just wow. not_the_one Oct 2019 #10
... handmade34 Oct 2019 #19
Postpartum blues are a real thing forthemiddle Oct 2019 #11
Thank you. It's not whining. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #14
Postpartem depression is NOT to be underestimated DFW Oct 2019 #26
Around the time our son was born forthemiddle Oct 2019 #29
I know only too well. DFW Oct 2019 #32
My husband was on a West-Pac deployment when I had my first child ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #41
"hit by a truck" Ohiogal Oct 2019 #44
How about 28 and then a c-section? Ilsa Oct 2019 #56
Wow, that's horrible! Ohiogal Oct 2019 #63
I guess she has to not marry the love of her life and be lonely just because he is a prince. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #16
Exactly, that was a very ignorant comment. Hav Oct 2019 #27
Judgmental much? stopdiggin Oct 2019 #17
Wow, just wow!!!!! Blue_true Oct 2019 #21
Agree with this. tman Oct 2019 #25
She isn't playing the victim. She's just honestly answering the question. pnwmom Oct 2019 #30
I don't think any Anerican can possibly imagine leftyladyfrommo Oct 2019 #35
Did you take into account she may be also be going through post-partum depression as well? RandySF Oct 2019 #28
She's not "whining" and she's not talking about "media attention" StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #34
I guess it depends on the type and amount of press lunatica Oct 2019 #58
Shame on you! secondwind Oct 2019 #60
Of course she is privileged, MuseRider Oct 2019 #15
I know, I felt the same way. cwydro Oct 2019 #18
I don't know much of MuseRider Oct 2019 #20
She has a father who is clearly a malignant narcissist -- though not on the world scale of DT, pnwmom Oct 2019 #31
Poor thing. n/t MuseRider Oct 2019 #36
A lot of her family members are deliberately making it hard for her. GemDigger Oct 2019 #50
that's some solid boat driving right there. TeamPooka Oct 2019 #22
I realized from recent history re:Diana that Meghan might have a hard time. What's going on abqtommy Oct 2019 #23
I really admire the Duchess Gothmog Oct 2019 #24
I'm really sorry that they're going through this. In future Hortensis Oct 2019 #33
She seems pretty nice, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2019 #37
She is a lovely woman and I'm amazed ... CatMor Oct 2019 #38
For fucks sake Drahthaardogs Oct 2019 #39
I don't read this as wanting sympathy ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #42
Lots of royal haters here. cwydro Oct 2019 #47
Hey there, I meant to apologize to you ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #48
Yikes, are you sure it was me? cwydro Oct 2019 #49
Oh, and... jberryhill Oct 2019 #53
Lol, thanks so muchly! cwydro Oct 2019 #57
It's a pet peeve of mine Drahthaardogs Oct 2019 #64
sweetie? nini Oct 2019 #51
Sweetie? mcar Oct 2019 #62
There is also most definitely .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #40
Must be a horrible life to have everything private Raine Oct 2019 #43
I think she's MeganWindsor now. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #45
I have nothing but kind thoughts for the two of them. phylny Oct 2019 #46
"Royals" gossip is one of the things I never look at. I block it actively. NCLefty Oct 2019 #52
The true irony in this thread jberryhill Oct 2019 #54
Hate led by that bitter Piers Morgan mfcorey1 Oct 2019 #55
I saw a very brief clip, and I felt for her. ecstatic Oct 2019 #61
To the poster who said she was whining coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #65
Wow! Always astounded how many DU members have a soft spot for royalty GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #66

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
2. She marries a British prince and then whines about media attention?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:38 PM
Oct 2019

I feel the same way about that as I do with celebs who cry "just leave me alone!"


YOU put yourself in the spotlight.

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
7. Say that when you are followed, accused, and fabricated every second in your life.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

And hardly ever in a good way.

No one can prepare for that kind of scrutiny. And to say she’s whining seems a bit misogynistic to me.

She was asked a question and she answered.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
8. I also have no plans to
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:47 PM
Oct 2019

a. Marry a royal

b. Get into the movies or on TV

so that is not a realistic scenario for me.

Oh and playing the misogyny card. . .quelle surprise.

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
12. Good thing I'm thinking.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

If not, who set you up to be a judge of one that did?

You have no context to judge Megan. None.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. We have plenty of royal haters here. Surprised they've not made an appearance yet.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

I can’t possibly understand what it would be like to be in her shoes, but she really seemed to be in pain in that clip.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
10. WOW. Just wow.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:49 PM
Oct 2019

You just posted on a public discussion board.

We COULD doxx you, find out all your personal information and post it online. Within hours you could find the press outside your door.

Some videos of you (poor baby) running from your door to your car could go viral.

All of a sudden you are whining about all the attention (or loving it?).

But, hey, YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE.

Meghan married the man she loved. BUT SHE PUT HERSELF OUT THERE?

Give me a fucking break...

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
11. Postpartum blues are a real thing
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

She may be speaking of the press right now, but there is also total exhaustion, hormones, and loss of autonomy.
I always cringe when someone says that you will never know true love until you give birth, and that is true, but for most women those early months are so hard, regardless of the amount of help they get. It’s been almost 30 years but I still remember looking at my bundle of joy and wondering when the happiness starts.
It does start, and you will feel the joy, but the beginning isn’t all roses.
I’m glad she spoke up!

DFW

(54,335 posts)
26. Postpartem depression is NOT to be underestimated
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:41 PM
Oct 2019

My wife, who is usually stability in person, had to be practically restrained after the birth of our fist child. Another woman we knew briefly actually jumped off a bridge into the Elbe in Hamburg and committed suicide after giving birth because no one was around to take care of her. It doesn't matter how rich or beautiful or famous you are. This can strike any woman, and sometimes with unsparing severity.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
29. Around the time our son was born
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:54 PM
Oct 2019

My husband was working for a foundry that was running on overtime. He was working 60-70 hours a week, which was very welcome at that time.
I remember my Mom, and my Mother in law making a surprise visit to see their new Grandson. I was so embarrassed because I hadn’t had the strength to clean the apartment all week. They both realized the situation and never said a word, but both pitched in and cleaned up the place.
Because I was exhausted, and depressed, I just let them do it.
To this day, thirty years later, I remember that day, and the gratitude I felt!
The best gift you can give a new Mom is a month or two after the birth. Go clean their house, or give them an hour or two away from the baby.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
32. I know only too well.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:58 PM
Oct 2019

Luckily, I knew what might be coming, and knew it would pass, but it got heavy at first. With our daughter (her baby was born in May of last year), we prepared her, and she was never alone or anywhere near it, so nothing bad happened.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
41. My husband was on a West-Pac deployment when I had my first child
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019

I was 22 and overwhelmed having just had an emergency C-section. Another wife who's husband was also in the same squadron mine was in called me and said she wanted to help. She was in her 40's and had no children, and she showed up with her suitcase and spent 4 weeks practically living with me. Best friend I ever had in my life.

My husband didn't see the baby until he was 6.5 months old, I NEVER would have made it without her help. Thanks forever Molly O'Connor.

Having a newborn is exhausting and so difficult. Molly used to say, "I know you feel like you have been hit by a truck, but it will get better."

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
56. How about 28 and then a c-section?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 06:04 PM
Oct 2019

Followed by complications.

It was a good thing I had prepared meals ahead of time and stocked my pantry. I was weak for two months.

Ohiogal

(31,963 posts)
63. Wow, that's horrible!
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:04 PM
Oct 2019

It’s certainly not a walk in the park for some of us! Many other countries’ national health services provide a nurse or home health aide to new mothers after they go home with a new baby. Oh how I could have used something like that! I was really weak for about 2 weeks, but not as bad as you.... Of course my husband was at work all day so I was left home alone with the baby. No parental leave back then,either

Hav

(5,969 posts)
27. Exactly, that was a very ignorant comment.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:47 PM
Oct 2019

You fall in love, you don't choose that. You can only make the choice to run away from that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Wow, just wow!!!!!
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:01 PM
Oct 2019

She married for love. No one deserves to be hounded everytime they go into public.

Just imagine how you would feel if you could not go out for a sandwich without flashbulbs flashing in your face or people you don't know writing opinion pieces on how you looked or acted.

Please get a sense of life balance. People make choices that are difficult for them based upon noble reasons.

tman

(983 posts)
25. Agree with this.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:38 PM
Oct 2019

I live in the UK and know how nasty the british media are, but she married into a circus and surely knew what to expect.

Also, most of the public know how scummy the british tabloids are so she shouldn't take it to heart.

A royal playing the 'victim' will not win her support, as harsh as it sounds.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
30. She isn't playing the victim. She's just honestly answering the question.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:55 PM
Oct 2019

And, yes, you do sound harsh.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
35. I don't think any Anerican can possibly imagine
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:11 PM
Oct 2019

what living as a Royal is really like. It looks glamorous from the outside. We rarely get a glimpse of the reality of such a life.

Going from being an actress to being a Royal had to be a huge culture shock.

Personally, I think they are a really cute couple.

Hang in there.

RandySF

(58,728 posts)
28. Did you take into account she may be also be going through post-partum depression as well?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:53 PM
Oct 2019

Celebrities are human beings, too,

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
58. I guess it depends on the type and amount of press
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019

Perhaps the paparazzi shouldn’t even be called the press. But maybe you don’t care about such unimportant differences.

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
15. Of course she is privileged,
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 02:10 PM
Oct 2019

of course she married a Royal knowing she would be under the scrutiny of the press. All those things but she is still a human being.

She is not like Ivanka whining when she is cold as ice and has everything she wants. Meghan is expressing things that have little to do with the privilege and everything to do with being a new mom in a spotlight. I remember being a new mom not in the spotlight, it is hard enough that way.

My guess is that she has a lot of support in all the right/wrong ways. It sounds very much like nobody really cares much how she feels they just do their jobs and leave it at that.

She looks truly in need of personal attention. Her relationship could be first rate and wonderful but you need more than that in her position I would expect and I hope she gets it. The look on her face when she thanked him for asking said it all. I just wanted to hug her.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. I know, I felt the same way.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 02:47 PM
Oct 2019

Plus she has had all those problems with her wacky American family

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
20. I don't know much of
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 02:54 PM
Oct 2019

anything about all of that. I don't ever follow that. That does not mean it is not important though. Whatever it is she certainly does not need that, especially now.

If I had been in her position I would have lost it publicly. I cannot imagine the pressure and I do not do well with people who want to pressure me into a certain form. I doubt she liked it much either.

I can imagine so many ways her life could be misery even with a loving husband and family. It takes a special kind of person, or one born into it to be able to manage without occasional problems.

I just cannot imagine. I wish sending Internet hugs helped. If they did she would have thousands until she felt more cared for. It will not be long until that baby will start filling that need for her.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
31. She has a father who is clearly a malignant narcissist -- though not on the world scale of DT,
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:58 PM
Oct 2019

a person like that can wreak a lot of havoc on his family.

(She has never said anything like that about him. I am making my personal diagnosis of him based on his mean, attention-seeking, and self-serving behaviors.)

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
50. A lot of her family members are deliberately making it hard for her.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 05:24 PM
Oct 2019

Jealousy does that to people.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
23. I realized from recent history re:Diana that Meghan might have a hard time. What's going on
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 03:28 PM
Oct 2019

now is totally unreasonable. One positive action I learned about recently is that Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (Sussex is one of my ancestral homelands) have entered a lawsuit against the British tabloid the Mail. If Harry and Meghan can't get satisfaction in a British court then I don't know who can. FYI: I put one person I encountered in this thread on Total Ignore. Thank goodness we have remedies when we find we're dealing with fools and miscreants.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. I'm really sorry that they're going through this. In future
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:03 PM
Oct 2019

the marriage of a black woman into the "sun never sets" white colonial British royal family will be seen as a great moment marking a giant change of eras, but of course the ugliness in the minority of people who viciously oppose change doesn't just get switched off like that.

Sounds like sometimes there's just no more room to suck it up, even for them. At least, at 5 months, the the unrelenting exhausting struggles nature requires until babies are able to raise their heads and turn over are in the past and life's become a much happier series of exciting new triumphs and adventures.

The increased freedom that comes with each new ability gained by the baby means a bit of regained freedom from his intense, existential need for the parents. My trauma was long ago, but boy do I remember.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
38. She is a lovely woman and I'm amazed ...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:17 PM
Oct 2019

how well she has handled her role. It takes a strong person to do that. Their recent tour of Africa had to be exhausting for her yet she did a great job. I wish the best for her.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
42. I don't read this as wanting sympathy
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:31 PM
Oct 2019

I believe she is looking for empathy. They are different. Calling her sweetie is quite condescending. I have always enjoyed your posts, especially the ones about dog training, but you sound quite out of your element here.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
48. Hey there, I meant to apologize to you
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:53 PM
Oct 2019

The thread about teens drinking, I didn't have time to clarify what I was saying but when I read my post again it sounded stupid. Sorry about that.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
49. Yikes, are you sure it was me?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 05:10 PM
Oct 2019

Don’t remember that, but then again, I rarely remember anything from DU from day to day.

But no worries!

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
64. It's a pet peeve of mine
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:05 PM
Oct 2019

Celebrities who whine about their celebrity. It's like the guy who wins the lottery then complains about paying the taxes.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
40. There is also most definitely ....
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:20 PM
Oct 2019

A racial component going on with Meghan also that most folks let fly right over their head. I've followed Meghan for several years--before she even met the Prince--and she was always a socially conscious young woman. She was/is a big Pres. Obama supporter as well--a friend of both Michelle & Pres. Obama. Anyway, some of the things I read on various British publications were so viscious, and most definitely racist in nature. So, of course she's not going to like that. Who would? It's more than just marrying a Royal. There most definitely IS a racial component behind the mix in situation with Meghan and she's pissed I'm sure, and I don't blame her for hating racism--even though she has not aluded to it to my knowledge. And many of the comments by people on various British websites when she got married were shameful.

BBC fires presenter for tweeting racist pic comparing Meghan Markle and Harry's baby boy to monkey.



Racists are piling in on Prince Harry for getting engaged to Meghan Markle

https://babe.net/2017/11/27/prince-harry-meghan-markle-racist-23003

And to keep it real, there are African-Americans who have said that she is NOT black, and that she should just say she's white. NON-black. Gonna be difficult for her to do that, especially since she has an African-American Mom, who raised her to be a strong woman who always remembers where she came from, to always be socially active and to always know that the 'world' is about all of us together here and living in it.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
43. Must be a horrible life to have everything private
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:31 PM
Oct 2019

turned into the public's business. I wouldn't have the life of a royal no matter how many material things went with it, it wouldn't be worth it.

phylny

(8,378 posts)
46. I have nothing but kind thoughts for the two of them.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 04:40 PM
Oct 2019

Prince Harry lost his mother when he was terribly young. Say what you will about Diana, but evidently she received very little support from the royal family. I think the cameras and the attention is one thing, but Meghan has had to deal with horrible press that has little to do with what she does and who she is and everything to do with hate, racism, and untrue rumors. She wasn't complaining in the interview I saw, she was answering a question and saying that yes, it's difficult to be a newlywed and a young mother and to deal with the pressure she's been under. Note that Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, has not been subjected to the same amount of hatred.

Sometimes I wonder if people have any empathy left for others.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
52. "Royals" gossip is one of the things I never look at. I block it actively.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 05:52 PM
Oct 2019

It feels not only stupid (like most celeb stuff IMO) but it essentially killed Diana. She died so the average person who reads gossip rags could get their fill.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
54. The true irony in this thread
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 05:59 PM
Oct 2019

...is that the apparent avid consumers of the product which killed Diana are the ones casting asparagus.

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
61. I saw a very brief clip, and I felt for her.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:34 PM
Oct 2019

To be that vulnerable and open about her struggles mean it's probably 10 x worse than she let on. I hope she is receiving good medical care in case it's an extended and/or severe bout of post-partum depression.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
65. To the poster who said she was whining
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:18 PM
Oct 2019

Go have a baby in as a woman in a public position. Then watch as the world vilifies you for the way you hold your baby, the clothes you wear, your requests for privacy, the fact that you are 1/2 black, your family is nuts and you have other famous black friends.

I like her, and I feel for her. But if I didn't like her I would just keep my damn mouth shut.

What I've seen are people who don't like her, and call her out for every real or imagined misstep. Publicly, in a very ugly, racist, way.

I saw the same kind of ugly racist criticism of Michelle Obama. Only her kids were older and her marriage wasn't brand new. It was still fucking hard for her. I can't imagine how it would have been for her if her kids were infants, she gave birth while living in the White House, and had maybe a little postpartum depression.

I think at least publicly, Meghan's done incredibly well. You need to go soak your head.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
66. Wow! Always astounded how many DU members have a soft spot for royalty
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:59 PM
Oct 2019

Movie star marries a Prince. And becomes a real, true to god princess. Something that I think should in some way offend all believers in a republican form of government. It obviously does not.

Now, I feel sorry for her. Post-departum depression is a real thing. And her race is definitely being used against her. But spare me if I save my real sympathy for the woman making $15 an hour dealing with that depression while having to raise 2 other kids with no help from nannies and a billion Pound bank account.

She knew what she was signing up for. And all these post about ‘she married for love!’

Pretty easy to love a guy with that kind of cash. Especially when he is good looking and by all indications pretty charming. But don’t forget her husband had a somewhat sordid past. But then, so do I.

I’ve got nothing against her, but can’t see why liberal Americans give a shit about monarchy and why they take up so much space on DU.






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