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applegrove

(118,589 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:53 PM Oct 2019

Red Flags All Over for Senate Republicans

Red Flags All Over for Senate Republicans

October 20, 2019 at 9:31 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 144 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/10/20/red-flags-all-over-for-senate-republicans/

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Josh Kraushaar: “Buried in the Washington drama of impeachment, corruption, and foreign policy chaos this past week was a ground-shaking bit of news: New polling and fundraising figures show that Mitch McConnell’s hold on the Senate majority is looking awfully precarious. Indeed, the pathway for a narrow Democratic takeover of the upper chamber is looking clearer than ever.”

“Four Republican senators were outraised by their Democratic challengers in the third fundraising quarter, with three of them representing battleground states (Iowa, Maine, and Arizona) that Republicans will need to win to maintain power. And in North Carolina, Sen. Thom Tillis raised only $1.2 million, an underwhelming sum for a senator facing a credible primary threat and an expensive general election ahead. All four swing-state senators also are viewed unfavorably by their constituents according to new quarterly Morning Consult polling, underscoring the sudden shift in support away from Republicans.”

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Red Flags All Over for Senate Republicans (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2019 OP
Support for president scumbag is hurting them powerfully. Most people, if not all of them, SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #1
and yet the KEEP licking drumpf's boots and blaming Dems for everything wrong.......... Takket Oct 2019 #2
Foolproof is scarier to them than unfavorable polls. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #4
We still don't know the full extent of Republican corruption in 2016. BadgerMom Oct 2019 #3
THIS! kag Oct 2019 #29
Yep. BadgerMom Oct 2019 #34
In actuality this would be better than winning the presidency. Throttle a lot of dotard's crap Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #5
Hopefully we can win both... kag Oct 2019 #30
Thank you, kag for the attitude saidsimplesimon Oct 2019 #33
Blue Wave! IronLionZion Oct 2019 #6
And from the comfort of their front porch they can behold the rebuilding of America all around them. DemocracyMouse Oct 2019 #31
I don't want to see red flags from them--I want to see white flags of surrender. lastlib Oct 2019 #35
Gardner from Colorado should be toast as well.. Hulk Oct 2019 #7
I would say Gardner is done DrToast Oct 2019 #14
Agree with you on everything but Texas. flying_wahini Oct 2019 #27
The Kochs, and the Mercers and zentrum Oct 2019 #8
Question about the Koch alliance. Trump's not their guy. Hortensis Oct 2019 #13
Wow. Thanks Hortensis! zentrum Oct 2019 #16
They thought Moscow Mitch would be their Lord Protector DFW Oct 2019 #9
americans need to start protesting and at least planning protests aimed at all republican senators certainot Oct 2019 #10
THIS zentrum Oct 2019 #17
Yes. nt Hotler Oct 2019 #23
The only thing that bothers me about this forecast bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #11
Woo-hoo! RainCaster Oct 2019 #12
Oh, but to be a fly on the wall during the Thanksgiving holiday Brother Buzz Oct 2019 #15
Trump is in a meeting right now ranting about how Republicans need to True Blue American Oct 2019 #32
may the education of the electorate send Moscow Mitch out to pasture Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #18
Send money to vote the GOP bums out! UCmeNdc Oct 2019 #19
VOTE. EVERY. REPUBLICAN. OUT. OF. OFFICE. Raster Oct 2019 #20
Hopefully enough of them they will see long before the election Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #21
Repukes have to ask themselves, is 2020 rigged enough so that they can still support trump and win. NightWatcher Oct 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #24
There are a few red flags we should consider as well DFW Oct 2019 #25
Good post. I callled Steve King's congressional office a year ago to protest his position. The c-rational Oct 2019 #28
I've been thinking how this interacts with impeachment timing. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #26
K&R real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #36

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
1. Support for president scumbag is hurting them powerfully. Most people, if not all of them,
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:20 PM
Oct 2019

are seeing through the crap and such. Only 1 small group, the die hard supporters of rump, will not see the writing on the wall until they wake up losing the elections in 2020. Garbage in, garbage out, Nov. 2020!!

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
3. We still don't know the full extent of Republican corruption in 2016.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:34 PM
Oct 2019

I believe time will tell us many of these politicians knowingly accepted Russian help and money through the NRA and other means. It’s not just fealty to Trump and the Republican Party. They fear the legal consequences that they could face. Better to hang together than to hang separately.

kag

(4,079 posts)
29. THIS!
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:02 AM
Oct 2019

Exactly right! They aren't all just stupid suck-ups. They're co-conspirators.

The Russians know how to turn unprincipled people into their own assets, and they've done it with a lot of GOP senators and congresspeople, and even a few from our own party. These elected officials see dollar signs, and don't care where the money comes from. The next thing they know, they have a "handler" and are being sent out to give a full-throated defense of the most corrupt, morally bankrupt "president" this country has ever had.

And now they have to decide whether to come clean and throw away their political career, or to go down with this quickly sinking ship.

Thekaspervote

(32,751 posts)
5. In actuality this would be better than winning the presidency. Throttle a lot of dotard's crap
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

And prevent SCOTUS from going further to the right.

kag

(4,079 posts)
30. Hopefully we can win both...
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:13 AM
Oct 2019

the presidency and control of the senate. I would love nothing more than to see the orange menace and Turtle get flushed down the political toilet on the same night...

Tuesday, November 3, 2020!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
33. Thank you, kag for the attitude
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 02:11 PM
Oct 2019

Of course, we can win. Let's run the House and Senate, if we work hard on GOTV efforts, it can be done.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
6. Blue Wave!
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:44 PM
Oct 2019

Republican senators should retire and spend more time with their family, especially Moscow Mitch

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
31. And from the comfort of their front porch they can behold the rebuilding of America all around them.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:07 PM
Oct 2019

... and claim it was Trump's tax breaks to themselves that did it, not the Democrats' healthcare system, consumer protections, solar economy and humane immigration policies.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
7. Gardner from Colorado should be toast as well..
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:18 PM
Oct 2019

Here I am again counting my eggs before they hatch. I'm seeing Arizona, Maine, Iowa, Colorado, and possibly Virginia and Georgia and Texas. If we can produce that Blue Wave big time in 2020, we could grab a good hold of power on the Senate as well as the house. Moscow Mitch is in deep trouble as well.

We have never had such a disgusting leader of the GOP as what we have today. The fact that the Republican Congressmen have demonstrated themselves as cowards and bootlickers... this is our chance to take a good hold on Congress

flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
27. Agree with you on everything but Texas.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:41 AM
Oct 2019

I’m here to tell you that Cornyn is going to win easily. He has LOTS of money and
Even though we may take the bigger counties we have been gerrymandered and it will not happen.
I hope I am dead wrong.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Question about the Koch alliance. Trump's not their guy.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:50 PM
Oct 2019

Not to say these people aren't what they are, and not to trust them, but it's seeming they suspect the destablization and severe problems for half the nation that their tactics have lead to also threaten their own continued prosperity. Note the Koch alliance has re- brand-named itself as STAND TOGETHER.

The Koch network is shaking up how it tries to influence Washington heading into 2020, starting with plans to spend money to reelect lawmakers from either party who back its issues and are facing primary challenges.

Once a pro-Republican electoral powerhouse, the network that was long led by Charles and David Koch has made major changes to the way it operates in recent years, focusing more on policy and philanthropy and even renaming itself Stand Together to reflect its less political tone.

But especially since Donald Trump’s nomination as the Republican candidate during the 2016 elections — which the network did not support — the Kochs have been shifting their focus. Charles Koch’s son, Chase, who is expected to lead the network when his 83-year-old father eventually departs, is uninterested in partisan politics. And the network has, at least for now, turned away from presidential politics: The network is not spending money to help reelect Trump, who Charles Koch has publicly criticized in the past, in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/07/koch-network-gives-bipartisanship-a-chance-1356571

Robert Mercer seems to be lying low. Investigations are coming very close. Apparently Steve Bannon was evading a subpoena a couple weeks ago. A search did pull this up about Mercer involvement in manufacturing lies about Biden in Ukraine.

WaPo: The notion that Hunter Biden and his father could be complicit in Ukrainian corruption was first aired in a 2018 book, “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.” Its author, Peter Schweizer, is an editor at Breitbart News and president of the Government Accountability Institute, a nonprofit group founded by former Trump political adviser Steve Bannon. The group’s board chairwoman is Rebekah Mercer, a prominent Trump supporter. Trump has cited Schweizer by name in some of his Twitter attacks on the Bidens. But even Schweizer’s book doesn’t allege that any laws were broken.


And Billionaire Peter Thiel, who believes America has declined since women got the vote, is backing RW extremist Kris Kobach for the senate. And god knows what else.


DFW

(54,330 posts)
9. They thought Moscow Mitch would be their Lord Protector
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:32 PM
Oct 2019

They never imagined that hitching their wagons to Trump would bring them right off the edge of a cliff, and I'll bet more than a few of them are wishing they had shown a little more independence over the last three years. The tax cut should never have been voted into being, Trump's budget should never have gotten out of committee, Kavanaugh should never have been confirmed, most of Trump's cabinet should have been refused as not competent for their positions, etc etc.

But they all played along, figuring the Republican base would never see that neither they nor their emperor had any clothes on. Now only criminal voting right suppression and fraudulent vote counting can save them. Maybe if the margin is just too great for them to score some "surprise upset victories," the Democratic Senate and Pelosi's House can finally enact some legislation to make voting rights suppression a major felony.

A year ago, I had the privilege of putting forth to a group of high muckamucks the suggestion of a new law that stated that if you were a U.S. citizen 18 years old or older, you had the right to vote. Period. My words got a round of applause. And then, they were forgotten. As usual. Maybe one fine day that will change?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
10. americans need to start protesting and at least planning protests aimed at all republican senators
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

so they can get a feel for what’s coming if they do not vote to convict. they can’t decide right now but when the time comes they need to know it won’t be business as usual.

they and their media friends cannot be allowed to get away with arguing “let the election decide”. every day this corrupt treasonous ignorant sick turd is in the white house is a shitstain on democracy and america.

the other day i was sampling a station in a state i’m familiar with and once again heard during the limbaugh show on 770KKOB a university of unm recruiting ad touting diversity!

protestors need to consider including the 87 universities that support 260 limbaugh stations — those schools are supporting, with sport broadcasts, one of trump’s most important tools for intimidating and policing republican senators. if one school declares it’s going to look for apolitical alts others will follow.

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
11. The only thing that bothers me about this forecast
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

is it's 12-1/2 months to Election Day 2020, and a lot can change. Heck we've had leads 6 weeks out that softened to a nail-biter.

Timing the outrage at Trump is our biggest challenge. It would be a shame if Trump were removed and Pence clothed himself in Heal the Nation robes.

Oh one positive sign. We are having a recession. People are not spending, companies are very wary of this holiday season, hiring only backups just in case it has upside they can't predict. But people are focused on our national tragedy and how it will effect them in the months and years ahead. That's where to keep those eyeballs - on the fallout from Trump.

Brother Buzz

(36,409 posts)
15. Oh, but to be a fly on the wall during the Thanksgiving holiday
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:59 PM
Oct 2019

The early December polls could be interesting

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
32. Trump is in a meeting right now ranting about how Republicans need to
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:15 PM
Oct 2019

Get tough on fighting impeachment! All about him.

Mr.Bill

(24,264 posts)
21. Hopefully enough of them they will see long before the election
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:16 AM
Oct 2019

that not voting to remove Trump from office will be the end of their political careers. In a way, my biggest fear is they do remove Trump from office, keep the senate and someone very electable, say Romney, wins the presidential election. Bottom line, though is Trump must be removed from office for this nation to have any global moral standing.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
22. Repukes have to ask themselves, is 2020 rigged enough so that they can still support trump and win.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:21 AM
Oct 2019

If so, they'll remain on the trump train.

If not, they'll have to separate themselves from him.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

DFW

(54,330 posts)
25. There are a few red flags we should consider as well
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:34 AM
Oct 2019

Voting rights suppression is going in almost every state with a Republican governor or a Republican-dominated state legislature, and most definitely in states with both.

Hackable/programmable electronic voting machines, made and programmed by Republican partisans, are in use in many states that never check or question their reported results.

Corrupt Republican Secretaries of State will be trying to sway voting results to conform to their personal desires rather than the desires of their voters.

The phrase attributed to Stalin 100 years ago is taken as seriously by Republican election officials and workers as any passage in their bible: "Those that cast the votes decide nothing. Those that count the votes decide everything." Don't believe it? This was confirmed at the Republican White House on Election Day, 2004:

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
28. Good post. I callled Steve King's congressional office a year ago to protest his position. The
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:00 AM
Oct 2019

staffer I spoke to took issue and said King would not change his position so I suggested the staffer should resign. He was not so happy with my point and although there were no pleasantries nor unpleasantries we both hung up the phone. I still recall my heart pounding.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. I've been thinking how this interacts with impeachment timing.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019

All the Russiapublicans are sticking with Pres. Turd so they can survive primaries. The second the primaries are over with, the exact same position becomes a terrible general election liability.

If Pelosi can time the impeachment vote to fall just after some key Russiapublican primaries, it may be advantageous.

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