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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:02 AM Oct 2019

'This is stunning': Maddow shocked by AG Bill Barr's criminal investigation into 'conspiracy theory'

“I will say if you just step back from this for a second, the reason I think this is such a big deal is because we have seen the president and his supporters absolutely go after — you know, guns blazing — every senior law enforcement and intelligence official who they have been able to identify as having played any kind of key role in opening up the Russia investigation, right? But now that this has turned into a criminal investigation of the origins of the Russia investigation, that means they are considering bringing criminal charges against people who had the temerity to investigate Russia’s attack on our election and the question of whether or not the Trump campaign was involved in it,” she explained.

“This is the Justice Department investigating itself, potentially bringing criminal charges against its own officials. That itself would be — that would get you a page in the history books under any circumstances. Under these particular circumstances, it’s — this is stunning,” Maddow said.


[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/this-is-stunning-maddow-shocked-by-ag-bill-barrs-criminal-investigation-into-conspiracy-theory/|]

It is ridiculous... ridiculous... on the bright side if they bring criminal proceedings, the defence will be able to request disclosure of every single pieces of paper that ties this bunch of nasty wankers to Russia and use it in the defence of anyone charged with a crime... the FULL Mueller report, all the investigative notes behind it, all the interviews they undertook... oh look...

Pass us the smoking gun you right wing arseholes
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'This is stunning': Maddow shocked by AG Bill Barr's criminal investigation into 'conspiracy theory' (Original Post) Soph0571 Oct 2019 OP
She was visibly upset (as I was). Career FBI agents having to lawyer up to save their riversedge Oct 2019 #1
Uh, yeah. orangecrush Oct 2019 #2
It's On colsohlibgal Oct 2019 #3
Didn't we know this was coming back when it came out as big Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #4
Can The FBI Survive This? DallasNE Oct 2019 #5
Putin's puppets in action. rickyhall Oct 2019 #6
Will turn up as much as D_Master81 Oct 2019 #7
We have definitely crossed over to a dictatorship... jimmil Oct 2019 #8
Trump can't stand to lose. This is how far he will go to not lose! rainy Oct 2019 #9
Barr... Catherine Vincent Oct 2019 #10
Whoever we elect in 2020 is going to spend half their term on dmg control & cleanup Tarc Oct 2019 #11
Whoever we elect in 2020 must have a strong Congress behind him/her soldierant Oct 2019 #12
This has to go into the top 10 of things that are nuts during the Trump nightmare. Vinca Oct 2019 #13
No surprise Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #14

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
1. She was visibly upset (as I was). Career FBI agents having to lawyer up to save their
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:27 AM
Oct 2019

careers, their jobs, their reputations--all because Barr and DOJ is using his influence to gin up dirt on them.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
3. It's On
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:43 AM
Oct 2019

This is Totalitarian 101. A sham investigation of who is investigating you. Adolph and Benito are nodding approval from Hell.

I hope we prevail before it’s too late.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Didn't we know this was coming back when it came out as big
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:43 AM
Oct 2019

news that Steele was asked to come over and testify? He said he would, but would need permission from UK? People were worried he was being set up somehow? They will manipulate what they want to be heard by declassifying; and classify what they want out there.

They are "all in" now to use whatever means to discredit the investigation to begin with, without a doubt.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
5. Can The FBI Survive This?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:45 AM
Oct 2019

This is politicizing the FBI down to the Agent level. Anyone that may have privately said something critical of Trump are now a target of a criminal investigation akin to Joseph McCarthy and the military. Will there be a thin blue line where agents stick together? Not when currying a favor of the boss will get you ahead. Will the American people trust what Barr comes up with and what if they don't. Only one person matters here and his mailing address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington D.C. This new McCarthy era is a sad day for America.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
6. Putin's puppets in action.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:49 AM
Oct 2019

What was it Khrushchev said? Something like, "We'll take you down without firing a shot."

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
7. Will turn up as much as
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:54 AM
Oct 2019

Whitewater, Benghazi, emails & Obama’s birth certificate. Right wingers just can’t help themselves but investigate where there is nothing.

jimmil

(629 posts)
8. We have definitely crossed over to a dictatorship...
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:03 AM
Oct 2019

When the "leader" of a country becomes the law itself we have crossed the line from any other form of government to a dictatorship. The illusion of elections may fool some but when "leader" can direct the law enforcement agencies to selectively target, investigate, and prosecute people whom the "leader" deems to have acted against the "leader" that is not any form of democracy I know of.

rainy

(6,090 posts)
9. Trump can't stand to lose. This is how far he will go to not lose!
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:41 AM
Oct 2019

I’m sure though he could even go lower!

soldierant

(6,846 posts)
12. Whoever we elect in 2020 must have a strong Congress behind him/her
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:09 AM
Oct 2019

in order to do the job. We won't be even close to out of the woods if we only elect a Democratic President.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
13. This has to go into the top 10 of things that are nuts during the Trump nightmare.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:17 AM
Oct 2019

It will result in the country losing the people we need to protect us from threats far and wide. I wouldn't work for the CIA or FBI if investigations could be reopened on a political whim and my reputation and finances would be on the line. Anyone they decide to target will have to hire an attorney or two. It won't take their fellow agents long to figure out it's not worth it. What a waste of taxpayer dollars, too. There will be grand juries and maybe trials and the outcome is already known. No one will be found guilty. They'll just be left with massive legal bills.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
14. No surprise
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:29 AM
Oct 2019

It should shock no one that William Barr and the DOJ are part of the Trump campaign for President. He's got an AG, a mess of law enforcement officials, and tons of judges that are loyal to Trump and his financial and political interests over the US constitution.

This is probably just a smoke screen and no one is going to be charged with anything more than maybe filing some paperwork incorrectly. But the day is coming where Trump sends Barr to arrest his critics, and there won't be 1 thing that can be done to stop it.

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