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Botany

(70,449 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:50 AM Oct 2019

PELOSI WARNS TRUMP IMPEACHMENT WILL BE 'IRONCLAD,' SAYS HOUSE ALREADY HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE

NANCY PELOSI WARNS DONALD TRUMP IMPEACHMENT WILL BE 'IRONCLAD,' SAYS HOUSE ALREADY HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE

https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-trump-impeachment-house-evidence-ukraine-1468865

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she believes there is already enough evidence to justify moving forward with the impeachment of President Donald Trump over his Ukraine conduct.

The House is due to vote Thursday on a resolution that formalizes the current impeachment inquiry, setting out its scope and terms. Republican lawmakers had accused Democrats of mishandling the inquiry by not putting it to a vote.

Trump allegedly pressured Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to open potentially damaging and spurious investigations into the Democratic Party and former Vice President Joe Biden, a leading candidate for the 2020 nomination, for his own political benefit.

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"When we decide if we are going to go forward, we will be ready, and we will be ironclad," Pelosi, a California Democrat, told The Atlantic, referring to an eventual vote on specific articles of impeachment before the process heads to the Senate for a trial.

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PELOSI WARNS TRUMP IMPEACHMENT WILL BE 'IRONCLAD,' SAYS HOUSE ALREADY HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE (Original Post) Botany Oct 2019 OP
I'm sure it will be, and... Miles Archer Oct 2019 #1
To a person they, the GOP Senators, don't like Trump but the minute it looks like they will go ... Botany Oct 2019 #2
I agree with you...but they WILL have to clearly "see" themselves going down. Miles Archer Oct 2019 #3
@ my now late father's funeral one of his colleague ... a political science prof @ OSU ... said that Botany Oct 2019 #4
Fact. orangecrush Oct 2019 #21
It's about the # of federal judges they can seat with Trump's help Auggie Oct 2019 #7
As I understand it, there are plenty of (R) votes to remove ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #12
Here's who took Russian money (that we know of) OMGWTF Oct 2019 #16
"conscience" ? republicans? Surely you jest.... pangaia Oct 2019 #8
I was being diplomatic...heh heh heh Miles Archer Oct 2019 #11
If the word has "science" in it, don't expect the (R)'s to acknowledge it. n/t aggiesal Oct 2019 #13
IRONCLAD! LOL Donnie feeling the shackles this morning! bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #5
slight edit, if I may... pangaia Oct 2019 #9
And all those who tried to rush us over a cliff are out of luck. Hortensis Oct 2019 #6
GOLD! /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #10
Loveit! lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #20
Keep the pressure on the Trumpublican party, gab13by13 Oct 2019 #14
Pukes are stuck. triron Oct 2019 #15
Even DU's favorite Russian asset voted Yes on the resolution today IronLionZion Oct 2019 #17
i've thought that was true barbtries Oct 2019 #18
She's making her place in history as the defender of democracy. lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #19
💯💯💯 live love laugh Oct 2019 #22
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #23

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
1. I'm sure it will be, and...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:54 AM
Oct 2019

...I'm sure that there will be Republican Senators willing to go down with the ship when it hits the Senate. Hope I'm wrong. Hope enough of them find their conscience and vote to remove this scumbag from office.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
2. To a person they, the GOP Senators, don't like Trump but the minute it looks like they will go ...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:13 AM
Oct 2019

... down w/Trump most of them will jump ship. Except for the ones who took Russian money,*
visited Russia on July the 4th, 2018, or are being blackmailed by Trump/Russian/Ukrainian/
Mobsters aka kompromat. See Lindsey Graham.


* some who took Russian money did it through the NRA like Ohio's Rob Portman.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. I agree with you...but they WILL have to clearly "see" themselves going down.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019

MSNBC, on any given day, is rampant with third-party anecdotes from Republicans who "say in private" that they think Trump is an idiot, incompetent, and not liked at all.

It's all about self-preservation. Once that's in danger, all bets are off.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
4. @ my now late father's funeral one of his colleague ... a political science prof @ OSU ... said that
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:48 AM
Oct 2019

Trump has a 20 to 25% base that will almost never leave him no matter what he did or is
still doing and that is because he, Trump, has scratched their racist itches aka you can use
the n****r word again. I know a person who isn't bothered at all by the Trump/Russia
election rigging ties but is still worried about Hillary having somebody killed in order to hide
Bill's cocaine operation. Hate radio, Fox News, social media, right wing web sites, and "their
pastors" have cooked a lot of people's brains. We are now 30+ years after "they" got rid of
Fairness Doctrine and the rich and right wing have used that to their advantage.

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
7. It's about the # of federal judges they can seat with Trump's help
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019

Adam Schiff said this from the start: Republicans will support Trump as long they get something in return.

You can bet there's a magic number of lifetime judicial appointments corporate-controlled-deep-state-conservatives have their eye on on. That's why the sham continues. Impeachment? Felonies? Traitorous acts? Trump's base doesn't believe it, and if it's even more likely they don't even know what's going on.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
12. As I understand it, there are plenty of (R) votes to remove ...
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:46 AM
Oct 2019

Pendejo45 from the presidency if the vote is closed (i.e. don't know how each Senator voted).
But if it's an open vote (know how each Senator voted), they will not have enough.

As long as they can't be tied to kicking out our Pendejo, they don't mind giving him the boot.
But tie them to breaking their loyalty oath, they'll vote to keep the devil they know.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. I was being diplomatic...heh heh heh
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:32 AM
Oct 2019

Their "conscience" is so bound by self-preservation that they are inseparable.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
5. IRONCLAD! LOL Donnie feeling the shackles this morning!
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:51 AM
Oct 2019

I'm wondering. Republicans deny everything. The evidence, the truth, the Mueller Report, the lies, the quid pro quo.

Could Democrats, or should they, behave like that? I mean when Trump is impeached, if the Anti-American Republican Senators refuse to convict .... could the House declare him guilty? I mean the whole country knows, any thinking slob with half a brain knows, and the GOP Senate would be laughed off the stage and reviled every bit as much as Trump.

Just musings .........

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
14. Keep the pressure on the Trumpublican party,
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:48 AM
Oct 2019

iron clad seems like a talking point worth repeating to the media over and over again.

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
18. i've thought that was true
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:23 PM
Oct 2019

since approximately 20 January 2017. most corrupt president ever, profoundly inept, unfit, unstable, unpatriotic, compromised to a foreign leader (or a few). all the damage.
sigh.

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