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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid you ever watch "The Apprentice"?
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(122,217 posts)I can't figure out why it ever became popular.
milestogo
(18,728 posts)But apparently its how a lot of people first encountered Trump. New Yorkers already knew he was an asshole. People across the country formed an impression of him, for better or worse, based on that show.
The first time I was really aware of Trump was way back when he dumped Ivana and made a big show of it. Trophy wife kinda guy, that's my idea of an asshole.
customerserviceguy
(25,197 posts)is nothing more than human cockfighting.
Hekate
(95,765 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)There is NOTHING REAL about ANY reality teevee show.
We need to remember how they came about...
It was a screenwriter strike in Hollywood. Rather than make pay/benefits better and ending the strike, they started having CHEAP talent shows. No stars, no big star bills.
They are still relatively cheap, but boy are they GLITZY and SEXY.
Exactly what the American public loves.
We are CHEAP and EASY. THAT is the new, ugly American.
customerserviceguy
(25,197 posts)Fake judge shows sponsored by attorney firms for those not engaged in actively working.
mokawanis
(4,473 posts)Haven't liked Trump since I first became aware of him decades ago. I used to see him on talk shows and thought he was a narcissistic asshole.
SWBTATTReg
(24,592 posts)Raftergirl
(1,367 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,127 posts)Ive never seen a single episode of Survivor, Big Brother, Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo Boo or any of that crap including The Apprentice.
So I wasnt avoiding it because of the asshole, I just avoid those sort of shows in general.
Its just not my thing.
Wounded Bear
(61,053 posts)One I've watched lately is Highway to Hell on the Weather Channel, but on that one they don't spend the whole episode yelling at each other and throwing shit. The tend to spend the episodes correcting problems and helping people.
LuvNewcastle
(17,078 posts)It's something nice and non-political to watch with my parents when I go visit them. It's funny and there's always some historical and cultural information about the objects people want to sell. But I generally hate reality shows, too. I never saw The Apprentice and never knew it was so popular. I always had the impression that it was sort of a fill-in show, not something that most people made it a point to watch every week. Just a little show to fill that time slot.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(122,217 posts)They're cheap to produce because they don't use union actors, and they set up such weird situations that they're more the modern equivalent of carnival freak shows.
milestogo
(18,728 posts)It was ok, but its the only reality tv show I ever watched.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,127 posts)Of course youre right. 👍🏾
LakeArenal
(29,905 posts)Courtney Kardashian, Pat Benatars daughter I think a daughter of Tommy Hilfiger. Rod Stewarts son.
drray23
(8,056 posts)i dont watch those. I did watch and enjoyed those that are about wilderness . There is one about people living alone in alaska near the north pole that i like.
WhiteTara
(30,266 posts)and the executives idea of how to fill time because of the writer's strike.
Cirque du So-What
(27,713 posts)The whole 'reality show' genre sucks hard, but one that plays off cutthroat corporate culture is truly anathema in my eyes.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I feel exactly the same way. The entire concept was a complete turn-off to me.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,752 posts)avoid it ever since MTV started puking it out, back in the day.
underpants
(187,923 posts)Jr. Not Hr
My wife and I actually laughed out loud. What the HELL could he POSSIBLY offer to this?. His contribution was to agree with his father. We stopped watching after that.
The show was only in the top 10 the first season and then the first celebrity one. Other than that it was middle of the pack.
Demovictory9
(34,167 posts)underpants
(187,923 posts)The second Jr. showed up on screen (looking, well... like Jr) we both busted out laughing.
My wife works in the corporate world and the ridiculous idea of Jr even being there was just too much for her. Many of the contestants would have blown Jr out of the water on resume alone. Jr wouldn't have even made the first cut of possible interviews.
Sedona
(3,827 posts)Snoozefest
murielm99
(31,598 posts)We wondered what kind of people would agree to be on that show. We knew it was an extended commercial for trump and the brands he chose to tout. We did not watch it all the time, though. We watched it enough to see how idiotic it was.
Arkansas Granny
(31,900 posts)I didn't care for it. Not entertaining at all.
brewens
(15,359 posts)milestogo
(18,728 posts)Beartracks
(13,652 posts)Most reality tv involves real(ish) people but in fabricated situations.
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drray23
(8,056 posts)This puts into perspective how hard these folks work so that we can have crab legs at the local restaurant.
brewens
(15,359 posts)introduced Phil Harris to his first wife. If I could have gotten up there a few years ago, I could have gotten a tour of the Time Bandit. One of my cousins met those guys and got on there.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)With his engineer/ relief skipper Murray Gamrath, I've sat in the bar with Phil more than once over the years
I also crabbed from 1981-89 so I watch the series all the time, I can go fishing with the guys and not get tired or soaking wet
I wouldn't last a day on deck these days though, crabbing ended up permanently disabling me by age 50
But the memories......
I remember hearing dumpf wanting to copyright the phrase "Your fired" way after I knew I never wanted to watch his show
I think we all knew way back then he was a pile of dog droppings with lips
miyazaki
(2,398 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)pnwest
(3,297 posts)Caught a few episodes of celebrity apprentice.
AllaN01Bear
(23,691 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)And I chastised people who did as well as those who brought Trump products
Grammy23
(5,925 posts)Just from that, I knew it was not a show Id like. I never knew what others saw in it that would make them want to watch it. tRump was an ass then and is a bigger ass now.
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irisblue
(34,555 posts)Is the first time I can recall hearing about them
LeftInTX
(31,688 posts)irisblue
(34,555 posts)Is Stephen Collins, a pedophile.
https://popculture.com/celebrity/2019/11/07/disgraced-7th-heaven-dad-stephen-collins-spotted-iowa-amid-retreat-public-eye/
Creepy to creepy
LeftInTX
(31,688 posts)I Googled the actress that played Ivana. Her career never took off, yet from the clip she appears to have potential.
Kali
(55,967 posts)because of one of the contestants - was it the one of Omarosa? I don't even remember. all that I do remember is the whole thing was as stupid as I imagined it would be. I don't have a very positive opinion on reality shows or tee vee in general, but that was even worse than usual.
Thyla
(791 posts)kentuck
(113,086 posts)"You're fired!" had no appeal to me.
subterranean
(3,554 posts)that Donald Trump was involved with the show. Knowing that made me even less interested in watching it.
Bluepinky
(2,344 posts)Iwasthere
(3,376 posts)Beartracks
(13,652 posts)... through watching this show that we came to see Trump as an empty suit. They definitely edited the show bigly to try to make his random, unfair assessments and firings seem like part of some mystical business genius. The challenges faced by the contestants also quickly got silly. The whole thing got hokey, worthy contestants were not rewarded, the winners didn't really get a "dream job," and the Celebrity versions continued the downward spiral.
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unblock
(54,358 posts)Other game shows give you money outright
The winner of the apprentice supposedly then had to work for a year to get their prize.
Typical Donnie.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)LiberalArkie
(16,893 posts)I will watch Dr Who, NCIS, Supernatural and many others but no unscripted TV.
louis-t
(23,866 posts)the second one to be fired. I actually got the kid into Real Estate. I also saw one episode with Gene Simmons. That's it, never watched again.
bcbink
(82 posts)unblock
(54,358 posts)Fascinating case study in terrible management.
I thought it was edited and manipulated to create drama for tv, but his tenure as potus proves that he really is that horrendous at management.
He clearly managed based on ass-kissing. He rewarded people for insulting co-workers, even if they lied to do so. He encouraged the worst kind of alpha-male competitive, anti-cooperative behavior.
And he was happy for someone to win a challenge with a terrible product and terrible marketing as long as they could call up a rich friend and get them to come over and cough up money.
Imagine if Gordon Ramsey rewarded his chef contestants if they screwed up the dish but got a friend to bring takeout from a fancy restaurant and presented that as their own. At least on that show Gordon Ramsey seems to be giving high end cooking tips in between berating contestants for being incompetent....
MH1
(18,313 posts)I mainly watched it because people at work would talk about the episode the day after. After a season or so I just didn't bother. At that point I knew all I ever needed to know about Trump.
I also have to say that my awareness colored my opinion of others at work who kept watching it and who seemed to think there was some value in the show.
underpants
(187,923 posts)for his amusement.
I've read several stories about how his "boardroom" decision threw the production in a whirl. It was clear who had been portrayed as being in the "hot seat", production meetings trying to make sure HE KNEW who the choices were,....and Trump went way off the reservation firing someone that no one saw coming. Suddenly they had to find footage that in anyway supported his decision.
I posted above about how my wife and I cracked up at the mere appearance of Jr. I remember us looking at each other saying "Hold it. Why that person?" or, as someone who's watched waaaay too much TV, commenting to my wife about snippets that didn't seem to have any place in the rest of the presentation- reading the stories of his flippant decisions I understand them now.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)shanti
(21,722 posts)It wasn't even a blip on my radar. He's the last person I'd ever want to watch.
Hekate
(95,765 posts)...and you couldn't pay me to watch.
Someone upthread called it "human cockfighting" and that seems about right.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,539 posts)aka rump and never have, I have known who he is for decades.
Beringia
(4,760 posts)I watched a lot of reality TV when I lived in Alaska one year with my sister. I also watched Survivor, which I had always hated, because of the cruelty of people to each other, but I dropped my standards that year. Also watched The Amazing Race.
I think it really hit me that trump was a rotten person, when he made this big judgement on Khloe Kardashian when she admitted she went to driving class because of a DUI. And he said he didn't like drinkers and humiliated her.
A lot of celebrities fawned over trump and wanted his approval more than anything, at least on the show.
Cindy Lauper
Marlee Matlin
Gary Busey
Dennis Rodman
George Takei
Joan Rivers
MatthewG.
(362 posts)After Trumps primary campaign acquired some momentum in 2015 I tried giving this a watch. Gave up after ten minutes - overproduced pablum with contrived, ridiculous use of camera and background music.
LeftInTX
(31,688 posts)Upstarts competing for a job with an over the top, demanding boss just didn't appeal to me.
I wouldn't want that kind of boss and wouldn't compete in that type of situation so, no. Court TV was more my type of stuff.
GP6971
(33,816 posts)Wawannabe
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NotASurfer
(2,331 posts)Frequently the decision about who was kicked out of the contest boiled down to who did the best job of throwing their teammates under the bus. And Glorious Misleader had a front-row seat to decide which methods worked best.
There are times when it seems he intentionally surrounded himself with people he knew were corrupt or inept, so that it would be possible for him to throw somebody under the bus every time his own corrupt or inept intent revealed itself.
H2O Man
(76,019 posts)IcyPeas
(23,018 posts)how many people who voted for trump also watched the apprentice. I am convinced a lot of people voted for him because they were fans of the show and consider donald a really smart businessman BECAUSE of that show. We need a Venn diagram.
helpisontheway
(5,298 posts)share the title with the white female runner-up. He did not let Randall Pinkett celebrate. He immediately asked him on live tv to share the title. Trump gave him a sour face when he says no. It was then that I knew he was a racist @sshole and I never watched the show again. He could not stand for this accomplished black man to be his apprentice. The young lady was great too. However, he could have offered her a job outside of the show. Why ask him to share the title? Yes, I have heard that other blacks won the celebrity edition. However, I did not watch those shows.
Mr. Ected
(9,688 posts)On our republic. Never understood how anyone could look up to him.
no_hypocrisy
(49,653 posts)I was flabbergasted that she continued not to be fired week after week. She was hopelessly useless. And inarticulate.
I later heard that Don Jr. recommended her to be on the show due to her flipping the table at the restaurant in RHONJ. His father castigated him for selecting her because they expected her to bring fireworks to their show with her temper which she was uncharacteristically hiding.
moondust
(20,617 posts)Stupid waste of time. Just as his toying with a life of political self-aggrandizement is a ridiculous waste of time--and much, much worse--now on a global scale.
Demovictory9
(34,167 posts)stopped watching when Trump started the Birther racist stuff. The producers warned him that it
was turning off african am audience.
Iggo
(48,673 posts)EDIT: Except for sports. I do watch sports.
Akacia
(637 posts)never sat through an entire episode. Looked stupid to me.
VOX
(22,976 posts)-Theyre a ripping waste of time. Manufactured crises, cliffhangers, pseudo-conflicts, shockers, etc. All of it = FAKE.
-They contain zero intellectual content. They are the video equivalent of passing through the tabloids at the market check-out line.
-Theyre as contrived as a ship in a bottle. Wheres the reality?
-Theyre comparatively cheap to make. Thus, they are mere filler, electronic sausages ground out of dead careers and backwoods idiocy.
-With all the viewing choices and cable programming available today, there is a wealth of decent fare on channels/streaming services like Smithsonian, National Geographic, Science Channel, BritBox, Netflix, Prime, Hulu, etc.
And, if that doesnt suit ones taste, theres always a nice, reliable BOOK. Remember those?
avebury
(11,091 posts)It is the 20th (now 21st) century version of sending the people to the coliseum to watch the gladiators kill each other. It serves as a distraction to keep people from paying attention to what is going on in this country.
doc03
(37,193 posts)asswipe Trump.
MuseRider
(34,424 posts)always made me retch, from the very first time I saw that disgusting human I decided to avoid it at every opportunity.
DFW
(57,041 posts)I once DID see the cartoon version of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" as part of Disney's "Fantasia."
Backseat Driver
(4,646 posts)She seemed helpful and fair to the teams; never liked Ivanka's watchdogging the teams' tasks, and couldn't stand Omarosa's crap, so watched even less - Liked to see how the teams gelled up to work together or not and those that showed some creativity for their success - Trump just wasn't ever a reason for watching.
Cary
(11,746 posts)What a stupid, insipid show it was.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)we're also douchebags like Twitler.
cyclonefence
(4,911 posts)"Love After Lockup," which I discuss with other very, very bright and funny fans on a site called Primetimer, an outgrowth of the late lamented TV Without Pity. There is a lot of fun to be had if you can find someone of like mind to talk with about how awful these people are. I think the discussions on TV Without Pity were the first to use the word "snark."
And that is my shameful secret. I know that Angela is going to take Tony back in spite of the way he has treated her.
Lunabell
(7,170 posts)I have hated trump since he came on the scene in the '80's. Such a smug rich boy face I've always wanted to slap.
Laffy Kat
(16,542 posts)I never could understand the appeal.
Raine
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jpak
(41,780 posts)like his "base"
bdamomma
(67,137 posts)but then stopped. But his kids were always there, explains a lot, he needs babysitters.
meow2u3
(24,966 posts)The only thing missing from reality TV is the reality. It's all fiction masquerading as fact, just like Trump himself.
lpbk2713
(43,202 posts)I detested Trump then. I detest him a hell of a lot more now.