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Ohioboy

(3,236 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:39 AM Nov 2019

Trump wanted to use Zelinski to hurt Biden in a court of public opinion

One of the main takeaways from Taylor's testimony yesterday is that Trump was more interested in hurting Biden than in investigating any corruption. If it was just about corruption, a private investigation would have been fine. In fact, a quiet investigation would have probably been easier and more effective to conduct. But no, Trump wanted it public. That way even if the investigation went nowhere and found no corruption, the damage would still have been done. This is very similar to the way an announced investigation into Hillary's emails less than 2 weeks before the election gave Trump an advantage over Clinton.

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Trump wanted to use Zelinski to hurt Biden in a court of public opinion (Original Post) Ohioboy Nov 2019 OP
Although Joe Biden and his son did nothing wrong Trump has done some damage. gordianot Nov 2019 #1
One thing that gets me... Cracklin Charlie Nov 2019 #2
This whole "corruption" thing is just utter bullshit. world wide wally Nov 2019 #3
His chumps buy it Ohioboy Nov 2019 #4
Yep, and effectively they have already done that. Biden is done for 2020. cbdo2007 Nov 2019 #5

gordianot

(15,229 posts)
1. Although Joe Biden and his son did nothing wrong Trump has done some damage.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:47 AM
Nov 2019

Only among people who have the capacity to be concerned about ethical behavior. That excludes anyone who considers themselves a Republican.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. One thing that gets me...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:59 AM
Nov 2019

Trump wanted Ukraine to falsely claim that they, Ukraine, were the country responsible for election tampering in the 2016 elections.

How was this hare brain scheme gonna work?

What would have happened if they made the claim, and Congress decided to investigate? Were they going to gin-up THAT whole sham production all the way to the end?

Not to mention how that would have played out for the vulnerable new president of Ukraine, or his citizens.

Mr. President is crazy, ya’ll. Get the hook!

world wide wally

(21,733 posts)
3. This whole "corruption" thing is just utter bullshit.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:08 PM
Nov 2019

For starters, Trump does not fight corruption EVER.
If he did, he considers Hunter Biden to be unlicensed enemy #1. What about the Kasoogi killing?
What about his own cabinet?
Why did he wait for almost 4 years to pursue it? Anything to do with an election?

Who buys this bullshit anyway?

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
5. Yep, and effectively they have already done that. Biden is done for 2020.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:32 PM
Nov 2019

He was my top pick but there's no way he can move through with all this new baggage. Especially if Trump runs, we need someone new that is disconnected from this scandal or else Trump or even more probably Bloomberg is going to win.

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