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(35,042 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Isn't that Diebold country? Home of and maker of corruptible voting machines, whose president promised Cheney he would deliver Ohio in the 2004 election, and in fact his fraudulent voting machines did just that.....(and not just there but across the united states).
Perfect place for the asshole to be from and to be elected to represent the Republican Party....
Perseus
(4,341 posts)But at the end of the day it is up to our Democratic leaders to do something about it, and in my opinion they have not have done much to stop the corruption. I have hope that with Adam Schiff and people like AOC that a new attitude will take on the Democratic party.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)The one thing that bothered me about Obama is that in EIGHT YEARS he did nothing about the voting machines. Not one thing.
The first day in office I would have gotten the DOJ FBI FEC all together and launched an all out investigation across the nation re those machines and what hacking/fraud went on, esp after 2000 & 2004 elections.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)methods, are up to individual states. That's Article I stuff in the Constitution. Second; state attorneys general, the Federal Government, and others have had the makers of voting machines in the courts since the early 2000's. Obama had the DOJ investigate them and then took them to court for for Anti-Trust (Fed's jurisdiction) violations within about one year of taking office.
There were multiple investigations before, during and after the Obama administration. Your claim is utter nonsense.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Investigating is one thing, prosecution another, and correcting the problem yet another........
Since the year 2000?????????????? It's nineteen years later...............
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)make some time to study up on the issue and learn the challenges we face on this front instead of taking swipes at Obama.
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Besides being a shameless self-promoter and a combative Twitter addict a la Dolt45 she is not that popular outside of a small slice of even the Dems, while independents cant stand her.
Shes gone as far as shell ever go, and that means shes anything but the future of the party. Thats why it would behoove her to Twitter cat-fight less and learn how to be an effective legislator more. If shed do that, I believe she has a good chance of being competent enough at her job to have a long Congressional career.
Katie Porter, Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell are far more the future of the party than AOC will ever be.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)sagesnow
(2,824 posts)nickname for it according to Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio%27s_4th_congressional_district
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)soldierant
(6,846 posts)Good one!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)but that's the way a lot of them are
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)At least he did not join that mob. Mike was a good Dayton Mayor. Came out for gun control after his daughter ran for her life in the Oregon District.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)He's never in any of his offices, won't face anyone unless he knows they're hard core republicans, who most people have never heard of because he doesn't do anything except put articles in the newspaper that repeat all republican talking points. His father was congressman here too. He knows the ropes get paid and don't have to work for it.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Mike numerous times, finally found his DC phone number. Called. They answered. I asked if Mike was in that mob that broke into the secure room. Was informed he was not. Shocked that I got through.
Sherrod answers every email. After a form letter he answers personally takes time, but he does.
My Librarian informed me that Connie Shultz has a couple of books after I requested Desk 88.
I m waiting on them now. Writes with the wit of Molly Ivins.
klook
(12,154 posts)Shes so reserved on TV, I didnt expect her to write anything like Molly I.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)I read her columns on Creators.com regularly
mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Both she and Sherrod make me proud.
The deciding vote on the ACA was cast at 12PM. Senate held it open so Sherrod could fly back from Ohio after his Mothers funeral to cast his vote. I stayed up past midnight that night.
Just as I did to hear Ohio put Obama over the top.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Currently "represented" by John "Barney Fife" Rutherford. The District is bady gerrymandered, and so far has been a stronghold for RepubliCONs.
"So far" because a new Democratic challenger has stepped forward and launched her campaign this week:
Healthcare is a top priority for Deegan and she says she wants to help ensure healthcare is a right for every American. She mentioned hearing the desire for background checks for gun sales from both Democratic and Republican voters and says she would support that as well.
Deegan says she's interested in finding out what people want and being their voice in Congress. She also says she doesn't like how divided politics have become and says she decided to run now because she believes we are at a pivotal point in our country.
Source: First Coast News.
This is refreshing, because Rutherford won't show his face in public. No town hall meetings since he was first elected.
"I began hearing stories of women who were traveling the same road only they were trying to decide between putting food on the table for their kids or saving their lives," Deegan said.
She is the founder of 26.2 With Donna, which draws thousands of marathoners from around the world every year.
She has my vote, and I will donate to her campaign.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)One of the few good ones here.
Ohio is so gerrymandered it's hideous.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)dalton99a
(81,432 posts)RAB910
(3,497 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)John Boehner drew that district for him. Did the same for himself. Goes from Westchester where he lives. Up 75, around Dayton,( Democratic), up to Miami Country.
Republicans put Committee on the ballot because they were afraid Democrats would win. Won overwhelmingly, but does not go into effect until 2021.
BootinUp
(47,138 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)The Freedom Caucus is one of the main reasons Boehner retired. Uncontrollable.
Jordan, Meadows, Scalise, Cantor was voted out by a newbie, Trey Gowdy and couple of others, now gone.
catbyte
(34,367 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Stay on Fox. So did Gowdy. He ran out of hair dos.
2naSalit
(86,515 posts)or any feature that would explain it. This is obvious and I get the feeling that if we can get a Democratic government next year, that will be changed early on.
robbob
(3,524 posts)Why isnt THAT in his district?
😁
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)My Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles lived. I did, to for a year.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Mendocino
(7,486 posts)I worked there many years ago while going to college.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)included at least one trip to Cedar Point. It was our version of Disneyland.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)I have not been to that are for years.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)n/t
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)safeinOhio
(32,658 posts)and the got gerrymander out of it.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)They found enough heavily gerrymandered districts to make the alphabet!
How do you spell gerrymandering is bad? With a font made out of preposterous districts.
By
Kayla Epstein
August 2, 2019 at 4:28 p.m. EDT
In case you didnt get the memo, allow these designers to spell it out for you, literally: Gerrymandering is bad.
Gerrymandering is the process of drawing congressional districts to give one political party electoral power over the other, or to ensure safe seats, which often results in fairly ridiculous district shapes. Its a partisan problem that has garnered bipartisan scorn because both sides do it. Opponents of the practice say it disenfranchises voters and can skew the balance of power at the state and national levels.
{This is the best explanation of gerrymandering you will ever see}
To illustrate their scorn for the practice, three Chicago-based digital creatives created a font whose letters are composed of real-life districts, their borders so contorted that they resemble letters of the alphabet. Some states, such as California and Arizona, have attempted to stop gerrymandering by allowing independent panels to draw districts instead of lawmakers, though that hasnt deterred the Ugly Gerry team from using California districts to form the letters A, X and T or Arizonas 6th to represent O.
More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/02/how-do-you-spell-gerrymandering-is-bad-with-font-made-out-preposterous-districts/
If you'd like to download it:
https://uglygerry.com/
Mersky
(4,980 posts)'Hello world' looks pretty good in gerrymander.
klook
(12,154 posts)3catwoman3
(23,969 posts)...a rather abstract letter C. We managed to get rid of do-nothing Peter Roskam last year.
EveDibb
(34 posts)I told my husband that after the census and redistricting if he is still my representative that we are moving. I told him I deserve better.
I believe this is going to backfire on Ohio Republicans. Ohio has a brain drain the youngest best and brightest are leaving. Ohio is low on the scale in number of higher educated people, and most of Ohio is not a diverse population. I expect them to lose one to two Representatives and electoral votes after the census.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)It is totally disgusting how heavily gerrymandered Ohio is. No way should we have that awful super majority of Republican nutbags in the state legislature.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)klook
(12,154 posts)to avoid the clutches of a sexual predator.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)All of Ohio. a*hole do-nothing bill johnson is the person (hahaha) representing us. He is a chickensh*t no show, too.
Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)put out radio ads the last time he ran telling us that disease infested and nefarious immigrants were going to be roaming across our front lawns, and for housewives to stay inside their locked homes. No kidding! I heard one while in my car. Unbelievable!
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)protested in front of his Marietta office last spring when the news broke about separating and caging immigrant, migrant and refugee children. His mouthpiece was a blond woman who was cold as ice and stayed right on her evil talking points. A**hole bill wasn't present.
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Takes four hours to drive the length of it on a weekday. That's only if you take the interstate (which is in the district for about five blinks and two sips of soda.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_25th_congressional_district
Mersky
(4,980 posts)One of those with a tank up on the wall.
The state of things makes more sense, now.
mgardener
(1,815 posts)Elise Stefanik.
She is a moral coward.
Mendocino
(7,486 posts)89.78% white.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)And make statements on DU like Wake up Wisconsin. You get what you voted for
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)erlewyne
(1,115 posts)I am in a narrow band on that map. I have never voted for a
Republican in my life.
My yard signs get stolen or vandalized every election. Of
course nobody likes Bernie or Dennis Kucinich but they stole
my signs. I have FUGWB stored away. I never miss a vote
and my neighbors won't talk politics.
Jacket off is a great memo for Jordan.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Even if a computer drew the lines, which is what should happen, the districts would have odd shapes. Assuming, that is, the computer were programmed to make sure the districts are diverse.
What also ought to happen is a major expansion of the US House, and there should be less disparity in terms of population size of each district. Having a single Representative represent a million or even half a million people is ridiculous. And for some districts to have 1.5 or 2 times as many people as other districts is also unacceptable. Then again, they don't really represent the people in their districts anyway; they represent moneyed interests.
yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)We have some seriously weird shaped districts down here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_delegations_from_Texas
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)Monday morning Miss Jones walks into her class of fifteen 4th graders and announces, "Instead of studying our usual four different subjects, for this week only we're going to study just one subject ALL week. Either English, or... math."
Groans! But there are some good math students in her class, so, some yays, too.
"Which one?!" the now very anxious students demand.
"We'll have an election to decide." Sighs of relief from the majority. "Who will want math all week?" 6 hands. "English all week?" 9 hands -- to 9 students' cheers of "We win!"
"No, hold on. That wasn't the election, that was just data collecting. Kristen, please switch with seats with Darryl." Two confused kids comply.
"This isn't decided by how many students want each subject, but by how many rows choose each. Now, who votes for math?" Three of the five students in Row 1 raise their hands. In Row 2, where Kristen has just been switched to, there are now also 3 votes for math. And in Row 3, which Darryl just joined, zero hands are raised.
"And who votes for English?" The other 9's hands go up.
"Rows 1 and 2 choose our week to be all math. Row 3 wants English. Two rows to one, math wins."
Nine anguished 4th graders howl in outrage and protest.
It's 9 to 6, how can WE lose? Miss Jones changed the rows to rig the election! That's not fair!
Yes, Miss Jones agreed, she had manipulated the seating and caused just 6 votes to "win" over 9 votes.
And, she further agreed: No, that isn't fair.
"Now everyone open your math textbooks to page 53 and we'll get started on our week."
Miss Jones' 4th graders, both the happy 6 and the embittered, suffering 9, actually learned two important subjects that week: Math.
And how American elections are gerrymandered. That in most state & federal legislative elections, once one party gains full state-level control, if that party chooses to, its politicians can pick their own voters. Reversing the originally intended concept, of voters picking their politicians.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)it's all starting to make sense.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Mendocino
(7,486 posts)Ohio 9th resulted from lumping Dennis Kucinich (Cleveland area) with Marcy Kaptur (Toledo area).