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Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:48 AM

Marie Yovanovich spoke volumes with her clothes.

The scarf she wore when she testified was a classic Hermes with a pattern of swords, eagles and flags. She also wore a big sparkly American flag pin.

Like female diplomats and politicians before her, Yovanovich used her clothes to send a message. This is a message that will resonate with upper income Republican women. They wear Hermes scarves. The message is - I'm one of you. Listen to what I'm saying.

Very clever. I went looking for an article about this because I knew others would have noticed this. Sure enough: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/11/15/marie-yovanovitchs-eagles-sabers-glittering-flag-spoke-before-her-testimony-began/%3foutputType=amp

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Reply Marie Yovanovich spoke volumes with her clothes. (Original post)
yardwork Nov 2019 OP
TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #1
OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #20
Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #34
OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #45
MacKasey Nov 2019 #2
Beartracks Nov 2019 #3
question everything Nov 2019 #6
Hekate Nov 2019 #11
oldsoftie Nov 2019 #18
Roy Rolling Nov 2019 #4
B Stieg Nov 2019 #5
OMGWTF Nov 2019 #7
yardwork Nov 2019 #31
jmbar2 Nov 2019 #8
Tanuki Nov 2019 #10
Ilsa Nov 2019 #13
jmbar2 Nov 2019 #19
Aquaria Nov 2019 #23
jmbar2 Nov 2019 #25
Grasswire2 Nov 2019 #26
yardwork Nov 2019 #33
AdamGG Nov 2019 #9
lunatica Nov 2019 #28
Ilsa Nov 2019 #12
Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #14
LuckyLib Nov 2019 #15
Aquaria Nov 2019 #24
yardwork Nov 2019 #37
Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #16
MuseRider Nov 2019 #17
yardwork Nov 2019 #36
MuseRider Nov 2019 #44
cp Nov 2019 #21
Aquaria Nov 2019 #22
littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #30
yardwork Nov 2019 #38
Skittles Nov 2019 #51
CountAllVotes Nov 2019 #27
yardwork Nov 2019 #42
Cha Nov 2019 #29
yardwork Nov 2019 #35
Cha Nov 2019 #39
yardwork Nov 2019 #41
Cha Nov 2019 #43
littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #32
yardwork Nov 2019 #40
blogslut Nov 2019 #46
yardwork Nov 2019 #49
blogslut Nov 2019 #52
Trailrider1951 Nov 2019 #47
yardwork Nov 2019 #50
mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #53
librechik Nov 2019 #48
brer cat Nov 2019 #54

Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:00 PM

1. Her clothes and her attitide-- many people will recognize her as on of th of rock solid and decent..

women we used to admire.

Like Margaret Chase Smith.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:06 PM

20. BandAid - did anyone else notice?

It was easy to see when she raised her right hand to swear in.



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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:21 PM

34. The Right Wing conspirasphere noticed.

Since her hand is partially covered while she takes the oath, that makes the oath null and void. This is intentional on her part.

The ring on her right hand instead of her left identifies her as a Deep State officer. Watch for this in future witnesses.


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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:46 PM

45. Cuckoos have too much free time 😂

I wondered if she carefully chose the scarf because I manufactured an accessory line in the late 80s early 90s when that type of print was all the rage.

The Disinformation Bureau must be working overtime in the WH

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:19 PM

2. Was she wearing a red coat when she left the building?

I could be wrong but I thought she was wearing a red coat when she left the building and got into a car.

Saw video last night , but can't find right now

Can anyone help?

Thanks

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Response to MacKasey (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:34 PM

3. She did. Here's some video.



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Response to Beartracks (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:47 PM

6. Interesting that she was accompanied by the Capitol security

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Response to question everything (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:07 PM

11. Very necessary, considering the crazies. I hope they escorted her all the way to her car...

...and I hope she is protected in ner home.

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Response to question everything (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:35 PM

18. I think everyone who testifies is escorted by security.

SOP I imagine.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:46 PM

4. Very Important Point

Politics is about persuasion, not just debate. Lecturing people on the facts like they are in grade school is just one method. I didnít realize the scarf significance, but it resonated with the people who do.

That is communication.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:47 PM

5. Good get, yardwork!

Thanks! These days, image is almost everything!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:55 PM

7. Ambassador Madeleine Albright's book "Read My Pins" is excellent

I got to see her pin collection when it toured the US several years ago. Get the hardbound book because it's a gorgeous read --
https://www.amazon.com/Read-My-Pins-Stories-Diplomats/dp/0060899182/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=78615122251030&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=madeleine+albright+pins&qid=1573926793&sr=8-1

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:20 PM

31. I remember!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:56 PM

8. Madeleine Albright did this as well.

Also the Queen of England. Their pins are never just "decoration", but always send a message.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:03 PM

10. Jill Wine-Banks is another one who sends a message with her pins.

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:18 PM

13. Those are great.

I am not a big fan of wearing pins unless I'm sticking them through a hardy fabric. They need to be light in weight unless they have a backing to counter the weight. A sagging pin is a no-go!

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:37 PM

19. Ha ha! Her Roger Stone pin!

I hadn't noticed before - thanks.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:01 PM

23. My sartorial choices these days are decidedly casual

 

But back in my worker bee and social butterfly days, I was definitely into pins and other accessories like scarves and hats (for social outings only). Everything I put on was to create a specific image, and send a message.

When I did temp work for law firms, I had a mini-Constitution scroll pin that that was a huge hit. One of the senior partners at a CA white shoe firm said he knew as soon as he saw that pin that I was going to be the kind of temp he wanted to hire for good. I had to turn him down when he made the offer, because I thought it was wrong to commit to a permanent position when I was (then) a military wife whose husband could be shipped out to a base halfway around the world next week.

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Response to Aquaria (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:33 PM

25. I was never so happy as when I retired from wearing office drag

Destroyed my feet wearing high heels for the first part of my career and felt claustrophobic in pantyhose. Took 40 minutes to torment my curly hair into a "professional do" each morning.

The last consulting project I did, I noticed that all the other consultants had major dental work done. They all had these huge, ultrawhite "chiclet" smiles. I knew then and there that I had done all I could do for the corporate world. Never looked back.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:40 PM

26. oh god pantyhose

D.C. in summer, stuck in traffic at rush hour, pantyhose. Oy.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:20 PM

33. And the first Queen Elizabeth as well!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:03 PM

9. What state does she live in - because she would make a fantastic Senate candidate

and Senator

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Response to AdamGG (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:08 PM

28. Diplomacy is a calling. It's obvious she was born to do it.

It takes an ability to mediate between two or more parties. Itís the ability to smooth things and to persuade. To listen and comprehend. To work for the betterment of both sides. To reach mutual understanding and benefit. Itís the ability to stop wars from happening. To make friends and allies. Partisanship is detrimental to diplomats. Their calling is to serve the country, not the politicians or Presidents.



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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:10 PM

12. I noticed her apparel and accessories as well.

She was all-business, all-patriotic, and an American success story with immigrant parents escaping the soviets and nazis. She was grateful, humble, and confident. Her clothing choices reflected all of that.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:27 PM

14. All about

 

Dressing for Success. Her posture and eye contact says,hear me roar.
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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:28 PM

15. She also wore a black suit. When facing bullying know-it-alls

at particular meetings in my profession, some women would send a notice the day before that the meeting was a "black suit day." Sartorial choices are not trivial.

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:03 PM

24. Worked with a ton of women lawyers

 

Who wore only black or super-dark blue or brown suits when they had to be in court, so that they would appear more authoritative.

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:33 PM

37. I do the same!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:28 PM

16. Interesting! No one noticed this I'm sure...but noticed

When she walked out she passed Goldman and they both acknowledged each other with big smiles and nods. It was one of those videos that the networks broke into but left the scene playing.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:33 PM

17. I thought she looked very

professional and strong.

I would not know a Hermes scarf if you strangled me with one! My brothers partner worked at Hermes but I would never look, way too pricey for my rural life!!

She certainly had a soft look on her face when she smiled and a definite look of sadness that her time doing that job was over. She obviously loved her job and the people she was working with but she was also very strong about what she was doing.

I guess Hermes would do it for some, her words and actions for others and some would love it all. She made me feel sad but very proud.

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Response to MuseRider (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:28 PM

36. So many good people forced out of their jobs by this horrible administration.

I admire them for their strength and courage. That's what the pattern on her scarf said. It's a reference to power in the service of liberty.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:39 PM

44. What an awesome

and thoughtful choice.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:12 PM

21. Like the Queen

when Trumpski visited. Strong, powerful women!
This is the DU member formerly known as cp.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:50 PM

22. I've never been part of the traitor party

 

But I know Hermes when I see it, and plenty of liberal women are like that. I saw that scarf Yovanovich wore and knew its provenance, instantly.

She may have been speaking not only to conservaXXX women, but to all professional women in general. Professional-class women have far more sway over what other women think and do than people realize, because they're the women we interact with most often in the real world, be it through work, business, social groups or charities. They are the trustworthy ones who can get things done...or the evil harridans who make our lives hell.

We know what a credible woman in authority looks and acts like, and Madame Ambassador hit all that out of the ballpark.

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Response to Aquaria (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:13 PM

30. Welcome to DU, Aquaria. nt

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Response to Aquaria (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:35 PM

38. That's a good point.

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Response to Aquaria (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:32 PM

51. proud to say I could not tell a Hermes scarf from a dimestore scarf

yes indeed

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:44 PM

27. Stunning !!

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:38 PM

42. Thank you for posting the photo!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:12 PM

29. Good on you recognizing this, yardwork!

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Response to Cha (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:25 PM

35. Thanks! I actually dress this way myself sometimes.

I have a job that requires tact, diplomacy, and persuasion. (I know, I'm nothing like this on DU!)

On certain days I wear black suits and a Hermes scarf. I don't own one like hers, though. I'm in a different field so I send different signals.

Years ago I bought used Hermes scarves on eBay and refurbished them myself. Silk is an amazingly resilient fabric.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #35)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:36 PM

39. Wow! No, I never

would have guessed!

Cool!

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Response to Cha (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:37 PM

41. DU is where I can let my hair down.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:38 PM

43. lol

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:20 PM

32. Excellent post.

She definitely knocked the nonverbal signals out of the park. The power color triad of red, black and white. The eyeglasses. The hair. Along with what has already been mentioned, all straight out of the nonverbal category of Costuming and Cosmetics. Add that to her Vocalics and we have a beyond winning classic combination. Ms. Yovanovich was a walking, talking master class in persuasion.

A role model for us all.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:36 PM

40. Agreed!

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:13 PM

46. Here's the scarf

https://www.1stdibs.com/fashion/accessories/scarves/hermes-c1985-joachim-metz-grand-uniforme-red-sword-military-print-silk-scarf/id-v_2248063/

I'll make a small wager she bought that scarf 30-ish years ago and has lovingly cared for it ever since. I wouldn't say the pin was that sizable.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:20 PM

49. That's it! Thank you for the link.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #49)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:36 PM

52. Ms Givhan has it a bit wrong

Those aren't crowns. They're a military headdress called a Shako. Marie Yovanovitch is a soldier.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:13 PM

47. Yes, especially when compared to this:

?w=620&h=459



And this:

?w=700&h=437&crop=1



Not to mention this:

?cache=ocbfchfdez&ops=scalefit_630_noupscale



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Response to Trailrider1951 (Reply #47)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:21 PM

50. Quite a stark contrast, indeed.

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Response to Trailrider1951 (Reply #47)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:44 PM

53. I, for one, kinda appreciate the first outfit on the list ...

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:15 PM

48. yes, Hermes scarves, the affordable accessory that says you are

born to the aristocracy, no excuses. And the iconography is a big bonus.

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Response to yardwork (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:49 PM

54. Good catch, yardwork!

K&R

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