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woman calls police on man trying to visit his aunt with his two young kids (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2019 OP
Why would you not just say your aunt's name and end the discussion? Seems simple ... (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #1
Because it's none of that woman's business... GReedDiamond Nov 2019 #2
Assuming it's a secure building and she's a resident, then it kinda is her business IMHO mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #3
No. Just No. GReedDiamond Nov 2019 #4
I edited and clarified ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #6
I'm not sure. But it seems uncertain stopdiggin Nov 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #8
Here's a video of what this person needs (link) uponit7771 Nov 2019 #9
She is accusing him of lying & accusing him of not living there JonLP24 Nov 2019 #13
In point of fact he doesn't live there dsc Nov 2019 #21
She did accuse of him lying when he said he was there to visit his aunt JonLP24 Nov 2019 #23
Because the aunt's name was not the issue. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2019 #15
Why should some folks...darker skinned folks...always be required to explain themselves and defend Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #22
You can tell from the video that this women never does this same thing to white people mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #25
Her entire attitude screams racist...say what you want. I hope she suffers consequences for her Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #26
Fair enough, but I would point out that I never saw any evidence BBQ Becky was racist ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #29
People should mind their own business. And I never saw any evidence she wasn't racist. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #33
Here is a picture and a link to the story with more details. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #27
I would point out that he doesn't look clearly Hispanic, I'd certainly not have assumed he was mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #31
It is clearly obvious in this picture and the kid's pictures too..why do you want excuse such Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #34
He does not look clearly Hispanic to me, I looked at all pics in the article ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #36
Did I detect some form of perhaps foreign accent from the gentleman? No Vested Interest Nov 2019 #7
Yes. I'm assuming the man is black and that is why this is a big deal. But is this a majority Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #10
he is Latinx Celerity Nov 2019 #32
You know a Spanish accent is not 'foreign' especially in New York...many American Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #30
After a bit of Twitter research irisblue Nov 2019 #11
I have to admit this video isn't enough for me to condemn her outright dsc Nov 2019 #12
He said he is for his aunt and she accused him of lying JonLP24 Nov 2019 #14
He wouldn't give her a name dsc Nov 2019 #17
She accused him of lying when he said he was here to visit his aunt JonLP24 Nov 2019 #18
It might even be a small co-op building. marybourg Nov 2019 #28
DUers should stop jumping to conclusions about who is in the wrong here SharonClark Nov 2019 #16
whatever happened before the video motivated him to pull out his video JonLP24 Nov 2019 #19
Odds are she doesn't know the names of the people in her building anyway. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #20
I don't know the last names of my neighbors 2 houses away on each side of me. TheBlackAdder Nov 2019 #37
Hope she loses her job...racist nosy busybody... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #24
So she thought he was bringing two young children into a building Croney Nov 2019 #35
I can not believe the lengths people will go... stillcool Nov 2019 #38
Most leases, in secured buildings, require tenants to lock the door to prevent unauthorized access. TheBlackAdder Nov 2019 #39
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Assuming it's a secure building and she's a resident, then it kinda is her business IMHO
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:56 AM
Nov 2019

Potentially, anyway ... that's also assuming she knows he was not buzzed in ...

Lot of assumptions I suppose ...

Maybe I should've said it's possible based on the video alone that this is a scenario where he probably shoulda gone ahead and done so ... but I'm not sure.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
5. I'm not sure. But it seems uncertain
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:01 AM
Nov 2019

that a random tenant has the right to enforce security or trespassing concerns on their own authority either.

Unless this is a case where someone "followed" her into a secure lobby .. in which case, tenants are definitely told "do NOT let other people in!"

Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. She is accusing him of lying & accusing him of not living there
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:55 AM
Nov 2019

She is clearly escalating this. Sorry he didn't have any perfect answers the ones he was giving weren't good enough for her.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
23. She did accuse of him lying when he said he was there to visit his aunt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:57 PM
Nov 2019

He even said she lived on the 2nd floor. He didn't have a good enough answer for her. I wouldn't accuse someone of lying without proof, that isn't a proper way to have a conversation and falsely accusing people of stuff does nothing to improve the conversation but makes it worse.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
22. Why should some folks...darker skinned folks...always be required to explain themselves and defend
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:55 PM
Nov 2019

themselves from racists.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
25. You can tell from the video that this women never does this same thing to white people
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:16 PM
Nov 2019

that she doesn't know that she spots entering the building ... and therefore declare her as a racist?

That seems like a fairly mighty talent.

Or is there new information apart from the video that I've not seen (very possible I admit)?

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
26. Her entire attitude screams racist...say what you want. I hope she suffers consequences for her
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:19 PM
Nov 2019

behavior.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. Fair enough, but I would point out that I never saw any evidence BBQ Becky was racist ...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

for example ... only that she was an annoying NIMBY busy-body, very common among both cons and liberals in the Bay Area, where I'm from.

She was also quite right in the point that it's illegal to use a charcoal grill in the spot that the folks were doing so.

She's probably gone through a ton of agonizing grief since the episode ... without anyone coming up with evidence of her being racist, at least not that I've ever heard (I may not have heard, granted).

Just sayin', I'm not jumping to the racist conclusion w/o more evidence.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
33. People should mind their own business. And I never saw any evidence she wasn't racist.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:35 PM
Nov 2019

I also think calling the police on a Black man or woman is potentially life threatening given some of the horrific outcomes we have seen. I have a daughter who was dating a young man of color, and after being out with him, I can tell you, he was treated like shit in stores, restaurants or just parking his car in the driveway...our across the street neighbor told me she knew he was liar because he was Black...and our daughter he claimed to be dating was white...my response....please remove you racist person from my driveway and don't come back unless you apologize to this young man.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. I would point out that he doesn't look clearly Hispanic, I'd certainly not have assumed he was
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:31 PM
Nov 2019

unless I was told his name, which I'm assuming he did not give.

Ergo, without his race being obvious by sight ... it's kinda hard to sustain a 'racism' claim in this instance ... IMHO.

So I'll just do me

On edit: OTOH the man and his kids look decisively nice/non-threatening ... so this ... lady ... definitely has issues with judgement. Nobody goes out robbing places with little kids FFS.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
34. It is clearly obvious in this picture and the kid's pictures too..why do you want excuse such
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:36 PM
Nov 2019

behavior? I have seen this before.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. He does not look clearly Hispanic to me, I looked at all pics in the article ...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:55 PM
Nov 2019

If I can't tell, I would assume at least some others would not be able to tell.

Not ready to brand the woman a racist, I'd need more evidence. Sorry.

YOU can, as you've clearly done. Go head on, you do you, etc ...

Edit: I'm NOT necessarily 'excusing the behavior', the only way this was 'okay' is if she KNEW he wasn't buzzed in/used a key. But it's not okay no matter what the race of the person ... she's a weirdo, IMHO. That's not how I'd handle the situation at all.

No Vested Interest

(5,164 posts)
7. Did I detect some form of perhaps foreign accent from the gentleman?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:07 AM
Nov 2019

Is this perhaps an ethnic or racial matter?
Is that what triggered her?
Not enough info given....

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
10. Yes. I'm assuming the man is black and that is why this is a big deal. But is this a majority
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:54 AM
Nov 2019

white building? Doesn't make sense.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
30. You know a Spanish accent is not 'foreign' especially in New York...many American
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:30 PM
Nov 2019

citizens from Puerto Rico have such an accent. And no matter what. This woman could have called security or she could have done a host of other things rather than acting in such a disrespectful manner. Clearly, this looks like racial profiling.

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
11. After a bit of Twitter research
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:17 AM
Nov 2019

The woman has been IDed. I imagine her personal and professional lives are about to go to hell.

Social media and bad behavior geez

dsc

(52,152 posts)
12. I have to admit this video isn't enough for me to condemn her outright
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:31 AM
Nov 2019

Clearly this is a secure, buzz in building of some sort. He never says my aunt buzzed me in leading me to think he followed her in. If that is the case, then it is her business to keep him out until he shows he belongs. People live in those types of building for a reason namely security.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. He said he is for his aunt and she accused him of lying
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:56 AM
Nov 2019

She also accused him of not living there. You don't accuse people unless you have facts backing you up.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
17. He wouldn't give her a name
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 08:47 AM
Nov 2019

frankly if I lived in a secure building, a person who didn't live there followed me in claiming a relative lived there, but refused to give me their name, I wouldn't let them in either. For all we know a person was raped in that building or there were a string of robberies. People live in secure buildings for a reason.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. She accused him of lying when he said he was here to visit his aunt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 08:49 AM
Nov 2019

I have seen this happen before and he was with his 2 kids.

I lived in a secure building before and it was annoying.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
16. DUers should stop jumping to conclusions about who is in the wrong here
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 08:34 AM
Nov 2019

We need to know what transpired before the video because that seems to be important.

Croney

(4,657 posts)
35. So she thought he was bringing two young children into a building
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:52 PM
Nov 2019

to steal something, and that her calling him on it didn't deter him, because he was bound and determined to break into some apartment with kids in tow? It boggles the mind.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
39. Most leases, in secured buildings, require tenants to lock the door to prevent unauthorized access.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:08 PM
Nov 2019

.

That is why there are door buzzers for the apartments outside and the tenants can buzz them in.

Do I think that woman was a little over the top, yes.

Do I think the guy should have respected apartment security protocols, yes.

Do I think the guy should have called his aunt or buzzed her apartment, yes.

Do I think the guy would be criming with a young boy and girl in tow, No.


Apparently, he didn't think there was a medical emergency, because once he got to her door, she was not home and he left.

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