Not the Onion: Majority of Republicans think Trump a better president than Lincoln

[sandensea]

The Economist and YouGov conducted a poll from Nov. 24-26 of 1,500 American adults. In the wide-ranging poll, researchers asked Americans to compare Trump to past U.S. presidents.

53% of Republicans said that Trump is a better president than Lincoln.

For Democrats and Independents, Lincoln is considered to have been the better president with 94% and 78%, respectively.

Republican adults were the only segment polled that considered Trump to be a better president than Lincoln.

At: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-majority-of-republicans-think-trump-a-better-president-than-lincoln/ar-BBXxDF2

[AJT]

1. Holy f@&k

We.Are.Doomed

[tenderfoot]

2. Well yeah, since those Republicans are Neo-Confederates

it's no surprise that they would think that.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. Well Lincoln freed the slaves.

They hate him for that.

[Talitha]

12. That was also my first thought.

He freed the slaves - why would a Repug like him?

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Abe Lincoln??

Don't get me started.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2003/10/thomas-dilorenzo/the-republican-moneyed-elite/

https://www.amazon.com/Six-Encounters-Lincoln-President-Confronts/dp/0670025909

Lincoln was a mediocre commander in chief and a railroad lawyer who as a result of the Civil War and his northern manufacturer backers, melded America with free market capitalism. He altered citizens consciousness every bit as much as Trump has deluded MAGAts.

[Polybius]

13. I tend to agree, I am not a fan either

620,000 Americans died under him.

[mucifer]

15. He was brilliant and he had a soul. He struggled with the job. He went into

depressions and felt guilty about all the soldiers who died.

Yes, he was a capitalist and did some bad things.

But, to say trump is a better president than Lincoln is just absurd.

[lutherj]

21. Dude was trying to end slavery and preserve the union. Seems quaint now, I know. Here's a quote:

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
—U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)

https://ratical.org/corporations/Lincoln.html

[bucolic_frolic]

25. Yes, and as a railroad lawyer he helped set the train in motion

[lutherj]

30. Okay, then. You're right. Trump is better than Lincoln. This is DU and Lincoln was a Rethug

so who cares? Splitting hairs. Remind me, why are we rooting for this country again? I mean, a bunch of slave owners found a republic?!! Give me a break! Am I right?

[TwilightZone]

24. Equating Trump and Lincoln is ludicrous.

Regardless of the source.

By the way, Lew Rockwell is a racist hack and a nutjob. Please do not give him or his website any attention.

[uponit7771]

38. ... and the economy was horrible under Obama too hunh?!? 🙄

[Turbineguy]

5. Lincoln freed the slaves

Trump would never do that.

[Ohiogal]

6. I Don't even know what to say to this.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. They're still pissed at him for winning the Civil War

[Karadeniz]

8. Well that's disturbing!

[RAB910]

9. Republicans are racist, they think freeing the slaves

Was a bad thing

[TruckFump]

10. IMO, that's cuz Lincoln freed the slaves...

...and Trump is trying to reverse that.

[abqtommy]

11. The stupid, it burns and cuts deep.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. I seriously question whether more that 5% of MAGAots could detail actual reasons for their opinion.

Book learnin' ain't their forte. Blind faith in chosen folks is easier and more digestible.

[Pepsidog]

16. Exactly !!

[Dave in VA]

17. 53% of Retrumplicans

This is your modern republican party. I hope that the DNC will use this poll in there adds.

I bet that 99.9% of the American Nazi Party think that Hitler was a better leader that Lincoln.

Just my $0.02

[struggle4progress]

18. Let's unravel this

Party Affiliation

In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent?

2019 Nov 1-14
Republicans 30%
Independents 38%
Democrats 31%

So overall

.53*.3 + (1-.78)*.38 + (1-.94)*.31 = 0.1590+0.0836+0.0186 = 0.2612

or about 1 in 4 Americans will tell pollsters they regard Trump as a better President than Lincoln

But of the Americans, who regard Trump as a better President than Lincoln, about 3/5 are Republican; about 1/3 are independents; and only about 1/14 are Democrats

The Republicans are far out of the mainstream

[dchill]

34. I was doing the math in my head when I saw your post.

I came up with 25%, but I'll go with your formula. Lincoln wins, again.

[smirkymonkey]

19. You are in "The Twilight Zone".

[MBS]

20. Crazy-making.

That cartoon is perfect: I’m with Abe.

[ananda]

22. Seriously?

How people can be that lost and stupid is beyond me.

[JHB]

27. No, it's not beyond you. It can be summed up in four syllables...

pro
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da

[lark]

23. Fuckers are still pissed he freed the slaves.

They hate that.

[Blue Owl]

26. Honest Abe vs. Dishonest Don

n/t

[JHB]

28. It's the inevitable result of turning the Party of Abe into...

...the Party of Ahab.

Be proud, Movement Conservatives. This is what you've ached for all these years.

[ThoughtCriminal]

29. They thought the same thing about Bush II

And then didn't even want him to appear at the next Convention. Trump will be the next non-person of the GOP.

[Cosmocat]

32. Doubtful

Totally different dynamics.

45 IS the Republican party now.

[sandensea]

39. Your words to God's ear

Of course though, I doubt Cheeto will be with us much longer - what with his 239 cholesterol and 300 pounds.

I don't wish it, since it would only leave us with Dense Pence - but even with good genes, there's only so much a 73 year-old man can take.

[regnaD kciN]

31. "Republican adults," in the context of this survey, is an oxymoron.

[Lugnut]

33. Idiots. n/t

[nevergiveup]

35. I am shocked that 47% of Republicans went with Lincoln.

[Garrett78]

36. Honestly, comparing presidents from different eras is pretty silly, and Lincoln wasn't all that.

That said, in a sane world, everyone would agree that Trump is an incredibly awful president and person. The Republican Party, though, is batshit crazy and the most dangerous organization on the planet.

[Maru Kitteh]

37. Um - it's probably the economic insecurity making them say that.