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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:05 PM Dec 2019

Top House Democrat Tells Fox We Don't Work For Trump



https://www.politicususa.com/2019/12/01/democrats-dont-work-for-trump.html

Posted on Sun, Dec 1st, 2019 by Jason Easley
Top House Democrat Tells Fox We Don’t Work For Trump


The Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) went on Fox News Sunday and told Fox viewers that Democrats do not work for Trump.

Transcript via Fox News Sunday:

WALLACE: Excuse me Congressman, but I mean the fact is almost since he took office, first it was collusion with the Russians, the Mueller report said it couldn’t make a case there. Obstruction, which Democrats still believe is the case, now Ukraine. There’s been an awful lot about investigating the president, impeaching the president, removing the president since he took the oath of office.

JEFFRIES: Well, the House is a separate and coequal branch of government. We don’t work for this president or any president, we work for the American people. We do have a constitutional responsibility to serve as a check and balance on a potentially out of control executive branch. That is not the Democratic Party playbook, that, in fact, is the James Madison playbook. Madison indicated that the House should serve as a rival to the executive branch because the Founders didn’t want a king, they didn’t want a dictator, they didn’t want a monarch, they wanted a democracy.

So we do have a responsibility to defend our democracy.
We’re here at this moment right now because the president decided to pressure a foreign government to target an American citizen for political gain and at the same time, withhold $391 million dollars in military aid from a very vulnerable Ukraine, which is an ally to the United States and is still at war with Russian-backed separatists in Crimea. That’s why we are at this moment, Chris.





Trump and his supporters believe that Democrats should not be investigating the president, and Trump’s Attorney General Bill Barr believes that Democrats don’t have the constitutional authority to investigate Trump.

None of these points are accurate. As Rep. Jeffries pointed out, the House is a co-equal branch of government, and he told Fox News viewers the truth that the constitution is on the side of the Democrats.

Democrats not only have the authority, but they have a duty to the nation to hold Trump accountable.

House Democrats work for the American people, and they aren’t going to be pushed around by Donald Trump.
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Top House Democrat Tells Fox We Don't Work For Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2019 OP
fuck wallace. spanone Dec 2019 #1
Yes! Did he say the like when the Republican Congress treestar Dec 2019 #11
Actually, he did. Media Matters has a video where he lists the bills ignored by Senate oldsoftie Dec 2019 #14
I won't say "fuck Chris Wallace" when he is the only one left... renate Dec 2019 #36
Democrats take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. dchill Dec 2019 #2
GOPers know exactly what the Constitution says and they know how to read. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2019 #22
excellent post Skittles Dec 2019 #28
Studies show 3/4 of Americans don't know the 3 branches of Hortensis Dec 2019 #29
Trump has provocated these investigations from his overt and covert deceptions. The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #3
Wallace's question list comes right out of Murdoch's Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #4
Wallace has indicated that he 2naSalit Dec 2019 #5
I completely agree. The question set up Jeffries perfectly to answer the way he did. writes3000 Dec 2019 #6
Ditto--and Rep. Jeffries was ready for it. Dems spooky3 Dec 2019 #8
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #7
Chris Wallace James48 Dec 2019 #9
Kudos Rep. Jeffries onecaliberal Dec 2019 #10
Excuse me, Foxbilly... czarjak Dec 2019 #12
got that trumped-up dig at the still-incomplete Mueller report, didn't he Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #13
Why would anyone who passed 8th grade think the Congress works FOR the President? oldsoftie Dec 2019 #15
Look. I'm sorry (not sorry) but apparently repukes of any 'creds' cannot be trusted. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #16
Remember no one has seen the Mueller report. Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #19
There could be heavy duty industrial strength indubitable sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #30
+1 ChiTownDenny Dec 2019 #26
Name One Day In Which Trump Has Not Committed A Crime Mr. Wallace DanieRains Dec 2019 #17
Wallance is wrong about the collusion Perseus Dec 2019 #18
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #35
Republicans wave the Constitution around. Perhaps they should try reading it. n/t Beartracks Dec 2019 #20
Public Collusion happened when Trump said, Russia if you're listening... MartyTheGreek Dec 2019 #21
I can't help but notice how Chris Wallace forms the question. He could have asked the same question UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #23
Civix 101 for Fuxed viewers. Well done! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #24
The reason Democrats have been after trump since day one is because Poiuyt Dec 2019 #25
During the election FOX "News" had a piece on how Hillary could be impeached. brewens Dec 2019 #27
Lets be clear, Muller DID find crimes by Trump but felt he could not do anything and justice could Quixote1818 Dec 2019 #31
I'm so damn sick of this, "You've been picking on him since he took office," whining. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2019 #32
Excellent answer! Dem_4_Life Dec 2019 #33
Good answer. But a better one would be to highlight Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #34

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Yes! Did he say the like when the Republican Congress
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:03 PM
Dec 2019

wouldn't do anything President Obama proposed? Does he say anything about the current R Senate that won't even vote on House bills?

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
14. Actually, he did. Media Matters has a video where he lists the bills ignored by Senate
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:37 PM
Dec 2019

McConnell half-asses his answers because he didnt really have one. I saw it several months back; it should still be archived

renate

(13,776 posts)
36. I won't say "fuck Chris Wallace" when he is the only one left...
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:31 AM
Dec 2019

... other than Judge Napolitano, who will ever challenge the GOPers who come on Fox, thinking they’re in a safe place space to expel their bullshit.

I used to think he was equivalent to the other craven amoral Fox hosts, but he seems to have sprouted a journalistic spine. Good for him.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
2. Democrats take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:11 PM
Dec 2019

GOP evidently thinks the oath says protect and defend the pResident.

If only they could read.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
22. GOPers know exactly what the Constitution says and they know how to read.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:56 PM
Dec 2019

Complicity with impeachable offenses is a conscious choice. GOPers have made that conscious choice. And they'll lie to have it both ways. Watch what happens when Trumpy's base begins to slip away as the impeachment hearings progress and a Senate trial is pending. Congressional GOPers will start to hesitate because the know that they don't have to go down with Trumpy. They can simply "evolve" their views. When they do so, Trumpy will kick, scream, and resign. His dictatorship will fail.

Make no mistake. The GOP is a craven, empty political party that relinquished any claim on principle about three years ago. That's a long time.

Fiscal responsibility is dead with Trumpy's ballooning of the debt and deficit, WITH GOP's enthusiastic approval.

Respect and advocacy for the military is dead with Trumpy's denigration of the military command structure. The GOP approved of Trumpy's abuse.

Law and Order political themes are dead because Trumpy abolished an independent Department of Justice and uses the DOJ for his own personal whims. And then there's Bill Barr...

I don't think that the GOP is happy with the plight of their party, but latching onto Trumpy's pant cuffs and getting dragged along might be better for them than facing Trumpy's sadistic admonishments if they choose to create a distance between themselves and Trumpy. But beware. There is no backtracking to principle with the GOP. That they lost, perhaps for the very long term. They CLEARLY and intentionally left their moorings, and without Trumpy's threats, intimidation, and vindictiveness to keep them sucking away, they are adrift at sea with no sails, no rudder, and no food.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Studies show 3/4 of Americans don't know the 3 branches of
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:00 PM
Dec 2019

government, what they are or their functions, including they are intended to be coequal and to provide checks and balances to each other.

Reportedly 1/4 can name one branch.

Agree the corruption on the right extends from top to bottom and there is no backtracking to principle for all too many. Conservatism doesn't have and never did have the strong intellectual and traditional foundations that the liberal ideals our nation was founded on do. It's more of a series of emotional reactions that are all too easily manipulated for lack of ideological mooring based on immutable principles, such as the liberal principles of equality and justice for all.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Wallace's question list comes right out of Murdoch's
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

Penthouse Office. Watch how Fake noise will attack Jefferies all week long.

It guess Fair and Balance means,if we don't like your answers to our loaded questions,you are unamerican and a Commie.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
5. Wallace has indicated that he
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:43 PM
Dec 2019

has a little bit of spine. What I find interesting is how he asked the standard "murdoch" questions yet he knew what Rep. Jeffries would say and he had him on to say that to those who might not hear those words otherwise.

I think the only set up was to have this response to the same old questions, only these answers are actually the truth as opposed to what is usually emitted from that network.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. Hear, hear!
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:47 PM
Dec 2019

Thank you Rep. Jeffries! That needed to be said, but it still will not be grasped by the majority of Fox viewers.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
13. got that trumped-up dig at the still-incomplete Mueller report, didn't he
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:33 PM
Dec 2019

Mueller said he couldn't prosecute a charge of conspiracy due to lack of evidence, due to obstruction. There was lots of collusion going on.

What you know and what you can prove are not the same.

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
15. Why would anyone who passed 8th grade think the Congress works FOR the President?
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

I understand working WITH a president; and one of the same party would obviously get more similar issues brought up, but its still taught to us early on that the congress is an equal branch of government

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
16. Look. I'm sorry (not sorry) but apparently repukes of any 'creds' cannot be trusted.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:47 PM
Dec 2019

mueller should've stood up and reiterated/pronounced exactly what he found. I thot there was damaging evidence. barr be cursed. We placed our expectations in mueller and lookit the outcome. Like what comey did.

Like bloomberg running as a Dem? Firing Line replayed his interview from September and he said he'd work with the other side plus he was badmouthing the Democrats' way of conducting business. 'We need a business person to run the country.' Yah, into the ground.

[Sunday, my day of rest and here I am getting re-pissed off.]

Kudos to Rep. Jeffries.
Well done!
💙

Oh yah and, sod off chris!

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
17. Name One Day In Which Trump Has Not Committed A Crime Mr. Wallace
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:56 PM
Dec 2019

He could have thrown that in.

If you book a bunch of rooms at a Trump hotel you can get anything you want done for you.

Everyone knows this.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. Wallance is wrong about the collusion
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:57 PM
Dec 2019

Muller told that at that time they could not conclude collusion had been made by trump and his campaign because they had not been provided with all the documentation and witnesses they required to complete the investigation, and we all know that Barr stopped the investigation early. On the obstruction of justice Democrats DO believe they can proceed to impeach the motherf^&*^ for that as well, and the Ukraine issue cannot be more clear that the motherf%^&% blackmailed, bribed Ukraine by holding the money unless they would publicly announce they were conducting investigations against the Biden, when they got caught then they released the money.

Wallace is confused, some days he wants to be part of the facts, of the truth, and some days he just forgets what the truth is and becomes another stooge for faux news.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
21. Public Collusion happened when Trump said, Russia if you're listening...
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:32 PM
Dec 2019

-TT Moscow LOI signed Spring 2016
-Took meeting at TT NY with russians for dirt on opponent.
-Jarad Kush seeking back channels to ruskies.
-Various dark PAC contributions suggest ruskie oligarchs paid for RNC party platform change.

Just to name a few.


UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
23. I can't help but notice how Chris Wallace forms the question. He could have asked the same question
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 05:37 PM
Dec 2019

by listing all of the ways Trump has broken the trust and laws of the office, then asking the congressman, if this is why the Democratic members of congress think these actions by Trump are grounds for impeachment.

But, listing the many impeachable offenses that Trump has committed just might inform Wallace's audience that maybe, Trump should be impeached.

Instead, Wallace asks the question, as if the Democratic congress members only want to impeach Trump as a political grudge.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
25. The reason Democrats have been after trump since day one is because
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 05:54 PM
Dec 2019

he has been trampling on the Constitution since day one. And since he keeps breaking laws every day, the Dems need to keep after him.

I can't say right now that trump is the worst president in US history because it will take a few decades for the historians to put everything in perspective. I will, however, say that he's the most corrupt president in our history. He makes Warren Harding look like Jimmy Carter.

brewens

(13,574 posts)
27. During the election FOX "News" had a piece on how Hillary could be impeached.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 06:40 PM
Dec 2019

They have Sen. Johnson R-WI saying Hillary was already guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors. There was plenty of planning to impeach Hillary if she won as a lot of them expected. All that for crackpot conspiracy crap. Trump and his gang have given us way more real reasons to investigate and impeach.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
31. Lets be clear, Muller DID find crimes by Trump but felt he could not do anything and justice could
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 08:59 PM
Dec 2019

take place after he leaves office. Dems need to catch Republican's on that one.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
32. I'm so damn sick of this, "You've been picking on him since he took office," whining.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:21 PM
Dec 2019

Reminds me very much of the parents of the most disruptive, lying, cheating student in my class one year. They wanted to know why I was picking on their kid. Why wasn't I frequently contacting other parents about their children's misbehavior?

Seriously?!

And, let's not forget, how the Rs treated Obama. And imagine what they'd have done had he committed a thousandth of the crimes that Trump has.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. Good answer. But a better one would be to highlight
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:35 AM
Dec 2019

as many reasons as possible as to why there have been investigations....because trump did 1, 2, 3, 4...etc. etc. Not the depth and breadth and authority of oversight, but depth and breadth of HIS malfeasance.
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