General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTop House Democrat Tells Fox We Don't Work For Trump
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/12/01/democrats-dont-work-for-trump.html
Posted on Sun, Dec 1st, 2019 by Jason Easley
Top House Democrat Tells Fox We Dont Work For Trump
The Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) went on Fox News Sunday and told Fox viewers that Democrats do not work for Trump.
Transcript via Fox News Sunday:
JEFFRIES: Well, the House is a separate and coequal branch of government. We dont work for this president or any president, we work for the American people. We do have a constitutional responsibility to serve as a check and balance on a potentially out of control executive branch. That is not the Democratic Party playbook, that, in fact, is the James Madison playbook. Madison indicated that the House should serve as a rival to the executive branch because the Founders didnt want a king, they didnt want a dictator, they didnt want a monarch, they wanted a democracy.
So we do have a responsibility to defend our democracy. Were here at this moment right now because the president decided to pressure a foreign government to target an American citizen for political gain and at the same time, withhold $391 million dollars in military aid from a very vulnerable Ukraine, which is an ally to the United States and is still at war with Russian-backed separatists in Crimea. Thats why we are at this moment, Chris.
Link to tweet
Trump and his supporters believe that Democrats should not be investigating the president, and Trumps Attorney General Bill Barr believes that Democrats dont have the constitutional authority to investigate Trump.
None of these points are accurate. As Rep. Jeffries pointed out, the House is a co-equal branch of government, and he told Fox News viewers the truth that the constitution is on the side of the Democrats.
Democrats not only have the authority, but they have a duty to the nation to hold Trump accountable.
House Democrats work for the American people, and they arent going to be pushed around by Donald Trump.
spanone
(135,823 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)wouldn't do anything President Obama proposed? Does he say anything about the current R Senate that won't even vote on House bills?
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)McConnell half-asses his answers because he didnt really have one. I saw it several months back; it should still be archived
renate
(13,776 posts)... other than Judge Napolitano, who will ever challenge the GOPers who come on Fox, thinking theyre in a safe place space to expel their bullshit.
I used to think he was equivalent to the other craven amoral Fox hosts, but he seems to have sprouted a journalistic spine. Good for him.
dchill
(38,472 posts)GOP evidently thinks the oath says protect and defend the pResident.
If only they could read.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Complicity with impeachable offenses is a conscious choice. GOPers have made that conscious choice. And they'll lie to have it both ways. Watch what happens when Trumpy's base begins to slip away as the impeachment hearings progress and a Senate trial is pending. Congressional GOPers will start to hesitate because the know that they don't have to go down with Trumpy. They can simply "evolve" their views. When they do so, Trumpy will kick, scream, and resign. His dictatorship will fail.
Make no mistake. The GOP is a craven, empty political party that relinquished any claim on principle about three years ago. That's a long time.
Fiscal responsibility is dead with Trumpy's ballooning of the debt and deficit, WITH GOP's enthusiastic approval.
Respect and advocacy for the military is dead with Trumpy's denigration of the military command structure. The GOP approved of Trumpy's abuse.
Law and Order political themes are dead because Trumpy abolished an independent Department of Justice and uses the DOJ for his own personal whims. And then there's Bill Barr...
I don't think that the GOP is happy with the plight of their party, but latching onto Trumpy's pant cuffs and getting dragged along might be better for them than facing Trumpy's sadistic admonishments if they choose to create a distance between themselves and Trumpy. But beware. There is no backtracking to principle with the GOP. That they lost, perhaps for the very long term. They CLEARLY and intentionally left their moorings, and without Trumpy's threats, intimidation, and vindictiveness to keep them sucking away, they are adrift at sea with no sails, no rudder, and no food.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)government, what they are or their functions, including they are intended to be coequal and to provide checks and balances to each other.
Reportedly 1/4 can name one branch.
Agree the corruption on the right extends from top to bottom and there is no backtracking to principle for all too many. Conservatism doesn't have and never did have the strong intellectual and traditional foundations that the liberal ideals our nation was founded on do. It's more of a series of emotional reactions that are all too easily manipulated for lack of ideological mooring based on immutable principles, such as the liberal principles of equality and justice for all.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Penthouse Office. Watch how Fake noise will attack Jefferies all week long.
It guess Fair and Balance means,if we don't like your answers to our loaded questions,you are unamerican and a Commie.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)has a little bit of spine. What I find interesting is how he asked the standard "murdoch" questions yet he knew what Rep. Jeffries would say and he had him on to say that to those who might not hear those words otherwise.
I think the only set up was to have this response to the same old questions, only these answers are actually the truth as opposed to what is usually emitted from that network.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)spooky3
(34,439 posts)Should repeat the same comments to the media.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Thank you Rep. Jeffries! That needed to be said, but it still will not be grasped by the majority of Fox viewers.
James48
(4,435 posts)Will never be Mike Wallace.
Mike Wallace was one of the good guys.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)The oath of office he's broken since day one?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Mueller said he couldn't prosecute a charge of conspiracy due to lack of evidence, due to obstruction. There was lots of collusion going on.
What you know and what you can prove are not the same.
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)I understand working WITH a president; and one of the same party would obviously get more similar issues brought up, but its still taught to us early on that the congress is an equal branch of government
sprinkleeninow
(20,237 posts)mueller should've stood up and reiterated/pronounced exactly what he found. I thot there was damaging evidence. barr be cursed. We placed our expectations in mueller and lookit the outcome. Like what comey did.
Like bloomberg running as a Dem? Firing Line replayed his interview from September and he said he'd work with the other side plus he was badmouthing the Democrats' way of conducting business. 'We need a business person to run the country.' Yah, into the ground.
[Sunday, my day of rest and here I am getting re-pissed off.]
Kudos to Rep. Jeffries.
Well done! 💙
Oh yah and, sod off chris!
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)We have only seen the redacted Mueller report.
sprinkleeninow
(20,237 posts)ChiTownDenny
(747 posts)Yup. Mueller did this country a dis-service.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)He could have thrown that in.
If you book a bunch of rooms at a Trump hotel you can get anything you want done for you.
Everyone knows this.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Muller told that at that time they could not conclude collusion had been made by trump and his campaign because they had not been provided with all the documentation and witnesses they required to complete the investigation, and we all know that Barr stopped the investigation early. On the obstruction of justice Democrats DO believe they can proceed to impeach the motherf^&*^ for that as well, and the Ukraine issue cannot be more clear that the motherf%^&% blackmailed, bribed Ukraine by holding the money unless they would publicly announce they were conducting investigations against the Biden, when they got caught then they released the money.
Wallace is confused, some days he wants to be part of the facts, of the truth, and some days he just forgets what the truth is and becomes another stooge for faux news.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)MartyTheGreek
(565 posts)-TT Moscow LOI signed Spring 2016
-Took meeting at TT NY with russians for dirt on opponent.
-Jarad Kush seeking back channels to ruskies.
-Various dark PAC contributions suggest ruskie oligarchs paid for RNC party platform change.
Just to name a few.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)by listing all of the ways Trump has broken the trust and laws of the office, then asking the congressman, if this is why the Democratic members of congress think these actions by Trump are grounds for impeachment.
But, listing the many impeachable offenses that Trump has committed just might inform Wallace's audience that maybe, Trump should be impeached.
Instead, Wallace asks the question, as if the Democratic congress members only want to impeach Trump as a political grudge.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)he has been trampling on the Constitution since day one. And since he keeps breaking laws every day, the Dems need to keep after him.
I can't say right now that trump is the worst president in US history because it will take a few decades for the historians to put everything in perspective. I will, however, say that he's the most corrupt president in our history. He makes Warren Harding look like Jimmy Carter.
brewens
(13,574 posts)They have Sen. Johnson R-WI saying Hillary was already guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors. There was plenty of planning to impeach Hillary if she won as a lot of them expected. All that for crackpot conspiracy crap. Trump and his gang have given us way more real reasons to investigate and impeach.
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)take place after he leaves office. Dems need to catch Republican's on that one.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Reminds me very much of the parents of the most disruptive, lying, cheating student in my class one year. They wanted to know why I was picking on their kid. Why wasn't I frequently contacting other parents about their children's misbehavior?
Seriously?!
And, let's not forget, how the Rs treated Obama. And imagine what they'd have done had he committed a thousandth of the crimes that Trump has.
Dem_4_Life
(1,765 posts)Thank you Rep. Jeffries!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)as many reasons as possible as to why there have been investigations....because trump did 1, 2, 3, 4...etc. etc. Not the depth and breadth and authority of oversight, but depth and breadth of HIS malfeasance.
..