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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt lunch yesterday, a family friend Trumpist "cut bait and ran".
The income tax returns and child imprisonments did it.
The friend wont vote for him next year. No way, no how.
Dump is losing the core folks.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,588 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)Trump's core is very small in my opinion. He has a lot of loose attachments that are being peeled away. Just need to keep poking them.
Trump had nearly 3 million less votes than Hillary and he will have at least another almost 5 million voters that will not vote for him because they will be dead. Or a net 1.6 million lost.
Trump will likely lose by at least 5 million votes and an electoral college will be difficult for him to win.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)that horrendous restructuring of the tax code will certainly cause another mass exodus of his 2016 suckers--er, voters.
That leaves racists and ignorant trailer trash, several of whom are in the middle of the Venn diagram for those groups.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)Oh, PLEASE, PLEASE be right!!!!
You read so much crazy stuff anymore - poles showing that all of the idiocy that has been publicly disclosed has not made any major impact on public opinion?
Really?
Who are the "polls" calling? Has anybody been paying attention?
It is SO easy to get so "excited" about the trends ...................... or SO depressed..................
Again - I SO hope you guys are on the "knowledge is power - and the truth shall set you free" side of it all!
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)is that the demographics they used are not the same as they were 2016. Another major factor regarding those polls is the use of a set percentage of people they identify as Democratic, Republican, and other. When they conduct polls they don't just make calls and then tabulate based on all calls. They make enough calls to fill those groups. And based on those groups and that includes groups within political affiliation such as women, men, and by age. So if the political affiliation size changes that makes a difference. And imo there are fewer conservatives because they are dying off or have become more open minded. The younger voters are not the same as those in the last 20-50 years. I may be wrong but when considering how it has changed dramatically in the last 50 years even in the last 10 years I have faith.
Still, everyone needs to do everything they can and be involved in the election.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)and I'm so hoping you are right about the perceptions of the different demographics.
But you are SO right - it has never been more important to GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Don't take it for granted that what they said in December will hold true next November. You don't have to be heavy-handed about it, but simply slip into any conversation some recent tidbit of Trump perfidy (Trump will surely continue to crank them out). Keep him from sliding back into the swamp.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,027 posts)that it was a principled decision rather than simply short term self interest.
Timmygoat
(779 posts)Statement showing how much social security I will be getting next year, and it will be about $50.00 less, apparently I have to pay more for medicare because I have some other income. I wonder how many Trumpers will like this when they
have to pay more!
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)I got the same letter/amount!!!!
What'da think - maybe start an investment fund? I'm thinking we could rule the world with a political connection or 2.
Who do we contact first?
liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)I iz RICH, I tells ya!
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)Well, half a case of Bud.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)another 1%er troll!!
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I live in North Carolina
This happened in rural Trumpist MI.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)but will he vote at all? Not staying loyal to trump is not enough.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Best to let it come to fruition naturally. But I know how to plant seeds.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)But if he does vote for us it will be a plus two in the vote difference.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I said that even Nixon released his taxes. Immediately the family friend chimed in yes he did.
The truth is a powerful weapon, which is why the Repukes hate it so much.
👍
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)During Nixon's term:
He signed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, established the EPA, and...a Nixon Supreme Court appointee, Harry Blackmon, was the swing vote that decided Roe v. Wade.
I've shared those facts with a few neocons and the most one said to me was, "Yeah, but..." And then *crickets*. The others were dead silent.
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)have implemented that benefited everyone.
1) Eisenhower - Interstate Freeway
2) Nixon - EPA
3) Bush I - Americans With Disabilities Act
Everything else is pretty much just tax cuts, which isn't a program.
Although Nixon created the EPA, he was against it the whole way.
When the (D)'s informed him that the bill was veto proof, his advisors
told him to sign the legislation and then claim it.
mathematic
(1,439 posts)Helps the downticket dems
Nitram
(22,791 posts)from office.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)But if he stays home in November, that's okay, too.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)I mean, assuming you can't get them to vote for Democrats across the board, getting them to sit out entirely is almost as good.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)if it has, they're not telling me.