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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:58 AM Dec 2019

Ex-Deutsche Bank Exec: Bank May Have 'Destroyed' All Evidence Of Trump's Tax Returns

From October, but just a reminder. I guess we'll see who is telling the truth.

https://politicaldig.com/ex-deutsche-bank-exec-bank-may-have-destroyed-all-evidence-of-trumps-tax-returns/

Ex-Deutsche Bank Exec: Bank May Have ‘Destroyed’ All Evidence Of Trump’s Tax Returns
by Bruce White
Oct 12, 2019


The Second Circuit Court of Appeals has been attempting to make Donald Trump’s tax returns public and have been investigating Deutsche Bank to do so. But now, according to a former Deutsche Bank executive, the bank may have “destroyed” physical copies of Trump’s tax returns after they told the court that it no longer had them.

The Second Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday rejected the outlets’ motion, revealing that the bank had informed the court that “the only tax returns it has for individuals and entities named in the subpoenas are not those of the president.”

But current and former bank officials told The New York Times that Deutsche Bank had portions of Trump’s personal and corporate tax returns.


Trump had relied on Deutsche Bank for loans for years after other financial institutions balked at doing business with his company after a series of defaults and bankruptcies.

Some of those records were obtained from Trump in 2011 when its private banking arm took on Trump as a client. A number of former bank executives reviewed the tax returns, bank officials told the outlet.

And just like Trump relied on Deutsche, Deutsche relied on information contained in the tax returns when it approved a series of loans to Trump in 2012, according to the Times.

David Enrich, the New York Times’ finance editor who spoke with the current and former bank officials, wrote that the bank “apparently got rid of” Trump’s tax returns even though officials say that it was “normal procedure at the bank to retain such records.”


When Enrich reached out to a former Deutsche Bank executive who had reviewed Trump’s tax returns about the bank’s claim that it no longer had the documents, the executive replied, “Holy f**k,” according to a screenshot of a text message exchange posted to Twitter.

The former executive suggested that the bank either “returned any physical copies or destroyed any physical copies under an agreement with a client and cleansed their servers.”

“Not normal though,” the executive added.

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Botany

(70,501 posts)
1. "Ex-Deutsche Bank Exec: Bank May Have 'Destroyed' All Evidence Of Trump's Tax Returns."
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

Under Putin's orders no doubt.

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
11. However, the bank version might be expected to differ from the IRS version if
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

you suspect bank fraud and/or tax fraud. Two (or more) sets of books = two (or more) versions of his tax returns?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
4. Here's the deal with 2019 though...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

It is extremely difficult to destroy ALL evidence when it comes to the documentary kind. Like virtually impossible. Copies may be way more difficult to find, but I can almost guarantee that somewhere in physical and/or digital form...the information still exists.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. The reporting all emphasizes "physical" copies.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:14 PM
Dec 2019

So yeah, who knows how many digital copies are floating around in their servers - and elsewhere.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
7. I noticed where someone said they had also "cleansed their servers."
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:18 PM
Dec 2019

Or perhaps that was speculation. The way it was phrased in the story was odd in a couple of ways.

At any rate, it seems more like DB is trying to find a way to not be involved and cover their own asses rather than protect Trump in any way. A "we don't have anything to turn over, go look over there" kind of thing. Which may buy them some time, but won't save them trouble in the long run.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. If it is discovered they tried to scrub everything, it will not go well for them.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:21 PM
Dec 2019

They're already on thin ice.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
12. If the hammer comes down on DB, who will be left to indict?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:34 PM
Dec 2019
Deutsche executive who signed off on Trump loans commits suicide
https://www.alternet.org/2019/11/deutsche-bank-executive-who-signed-off-on-trump-loans-commits-suicide/

Isn't this the 3rd suicide of Deutsche Bank executives? I've lost count.

DB may protect the Russian Asset, cough cough, the pResident at all costs.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
14. Mmm...That Reminds Me: Is Rose Mary Woods Still Alive?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 PM
Dec 2019

And wouldn't destruction of tax records--accidental or not--in itself be a crime?

We really need to fix our government PDQ. Too many white-collar crooks breaking laws whenever with impunity....

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
15. And if such tax returns are still (according to idiot rump), the returns are still out there...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:55 PM
Dec 2019

the IRS needs to cough them up.

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