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Hearing after hearing, the women witnesses are kicking ass. (Original Post) CanonRay Dec 2019 OP
I envy Karlan's students and in case we didn't think she Raven Dec 2019 #1
Stop the identity politics TheRealNorth Dec 2019 #2
I hope I'm not interpreting this correctly, but your response smacks of... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #3
If I were to say TheRealNorth Dec 2019 #6
Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #10
So you are saying that there are different standards for racism/sexism TheRealNorth Dec 2019 #12
Except the comment you replied to was neither racist nor sexist. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #13
You are 100% correct, Pacifist Patriot. murielm99 Dec 2019 #15
I would say several women have definitely have definitely stood out 🤩 MLAA Dec 2019 #17
Oh now I get it. You're concerned. Very very concerned that if you so much as notice the outstanding Hekate Dec 2019 #16
. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #19
Your logical fallacy is creative. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #5
... demmiblue Dec 2019 #7
Oh for pity's sake CanonRay Dec 2019 #11
So you are using the concept of division to divide? SlogginThroughIt Dec 2019 #20
I made a comment a couple of weeks ago, that a big difference between... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #4
Agree, but we did have a pretty great female questioner for Watergate ;) nt mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #8
We did, didn't we? Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #9
Good point. Thanks. B Stieg Dec 2019 #14
Damn right! calimary Dec 2019 #18

Raven

(13,889 posts)
1. I envy Karlan's students and in case we didn't think she
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:22 PM
Dec 2019

had a sense of humor, that line about eating the turkey that came in the mail was hilarious.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
2. Stop the identity politics
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:29 PM
Dec 2019

All our witnesses are kicking ass.

Why some people that purport to be Democrats want to drive a gender divide is beyond me.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
3. I hope I'm not interpreting this correctly, but your response smacks of...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:37 PM
Dec 2019

the "all lives matter" reaction to "black lives matter."

The OP did not say the male witnesses were not also kicking ass. Merely pointed out how well women are doing. And societies ignore women's contributions to their own peril.

Please rethink your reaction if my interpretation was correct. My apologies if it was not.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
6. If I were to say
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

If I said something like, "all of our white congressmen are kicking ass", wouldn't that sound a bit racist to you? It would to me.

There is an implying that their kicking ass is because of their race or gender.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
10. Sorry, I'm not going to play that game.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:26 PM
Dec 2019

You'll have to get someone else to explain power differentials and societal norms to you. You chose to be offended by something that wasn't there. And use a sentence no one would say to somehow prove your point.

There was absolutely no implication that the ass kicking was because of their gender in the OP. Given the other comments, I gather I wasn't the only one to find your response a poor one.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
12. So you are saying that there are different standards for racism/sexism
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:43 PM
Dec 2019

I an sorry, but I see a lot of swing voters get turned off by Democrats making statements like that, and I am going to challenge racism/sexism as I see it. There should not be a different standard for racism/sexism just because the aggrieved party as a whole has more power in society.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
13. Except the comment you replied to was neither racist nor sexist.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

Women did kick ass in those meetings. Do you deny that?

And perhaps in some people's opinions the women kicked ass even harder than the men did. Doesn't mean the men weren't valuable witnesses or didn't kick ass too.

Again, you're choosing to see something that isn't there.

Have a nice day.

Hekate

(90,659 posts)
16. Oh now I get it. You're concerned. Very very concerned that if you so much as notice the outstanding
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

...achievements of members of an underrepresented group -- that the delicate fee-fees of the overrepresented and historically very powerful group will be hurt.

Got it! Thanks!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. Your logical fallacy is creative.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:43 PM
Dec 2019

The one doesn't deny the other. "All our witnesses are kicking ass" is not denied by premise of the OP.

Saying 2+2=4 neither trivializes nor minimizes the sum that 10-6=4 as well.

Why some people want that purport to pretend offense when none is available is beyond me.

Well, no it's not beyond me. It's actually pretty damn obvious.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
11. Oh for pity's sake
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:27 PM
Dec 2019

That is all. I just feel that in every hearing I've seen, the women in every case were the best.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
4. I made a comment a couple of weeks ago, that a big difference between...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:40 PM
Dec 2019

the Watergate hearings and now, is the presence of brilliant women in powerful positions on the witness list and questioning those witnesses. We have made progress. Still more to go, but we're getting there!

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