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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:03 PM Dec 2019

The Republican's Star Impeachment Scholar Is a Shameless Hack

https://www.thenation.com/article/turley-impeachment-hypocrisy/


The Republican’s Star Impeachment Scholar Is a Shameless Hack
Jonathan Turley’s testimony was so inconsistent, it contradicted his own previous statements on impeachment.
By Elie Mystal
Today 10:47 am

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The fourth professor, requested by Republicans on the committee, was Jonathan Turley from George Washington University Law School. Republicans know that all they have to do to outflank the Democrats is serve up talking points Sean Hannity can use on his show. They tapped Turley to do the easy work of poisoning the well with more misinformation.

Turley did not disappoint. He told Republicans what they wanted to hear right from his opening statement:
“I’m concerned about lowering impeachment standard to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger. I believe this impeachment not only fails to satisfy the standard of past impeachments, but would create a dangerous precedent for future impeachments…. This would be the first impeachment in history where there would be considerable debate, and in my view, not compelling evidence, of the commission of a crime.”


Turley beclowned himself with his remarks, because this is not the first time Jonathan Turley has testified about impeachment. In 1998, testifying in front of the House Judiciary Committee during the Clinton impeachment hearing, Turley said, “No matter how you feel about President Clinton, no matter how you feel about the independent counsel, by his own conduct, he has deprived himself of the perceived legitimacy to govern. You need both political and legal legitimacy to govern this nation, because the President must be able to demand an absolute sacrifice from the public at a moment’s notice.”

It’s impossible to explain the shameless hypocrisy of Turley’s conflicting statements without concluding that his testimony, in both hearings, was offered in bad faith. Can Turley really expect us to believe that he would support impeachment if Trump lied about what he got on Volodymyr Zelensky’s blue dress, but would also support Bill Clinton’s right to extort a foreign power to influence an American election? Turley can’t square his Trump testimony with his Clinton testimony; all he can hope for is that people are too polite to call him a hypocrite to his face.

Jonathan Turley is punking us. The only dangerous lowering of standards we saw at the hearing was the smuggling of Jonathan Turley onto a panel of experts, the rest of whom were able to testify with academic integrity.

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You don’t need a law degree to know that everything Jonathan Turley said yesterday was drenched in his own hypocrisy. His testimony was an attempt to distract and dissemble, offered at the behest of the Republican Party, which tapped him likely because it couldn’t find a legal scholar with less partisan baggage to make the same bad-faith arguments. Ken Starr or Jeanine Pirro would have been too obvious for the Republicans’ purposes; Turley’s the hack they call when they don’t want to look like they’re calling in a hack.
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The Republican's Star Impeachment Scholar Is a Shameless Hack (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2019 OP
"Shameless Hack" is the dictionary definition of "Republican Scholar". Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #1
Republican scholar is an oxymoron... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #3
As long as the Talent Fee Check clears the Bank, Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #2
Talent-free? keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #9
When ever he appears on any Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #11
How much did he get paid to prostitute The Wizard Dec 2019 #4
Along much the same lines: Ponietz Dec 2019 #5
I'm sure there are many competant Costitutional Law experts who are Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #17
Yup. Turley's opening schtick was that both parties had become Hortensis Dec 2019 #6
what a load They_Live Dec 2019 #15
Grade triple C. We tried CBS's evening news Hortensis Dec 2019 #20
Republican scholar? smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #7
He talked like a guy who makes his living Baitball Blogger Dec 2019 #8
Now, if a blowjob was involved... That is an altogether different matter. world wide wally Dec 2019 #10
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Dec 2019 #12
He fits in with the rest of the rat nest Leith Dec 2019 #13
Rachel Maddow took him apart on her show last night. Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #14
Sorry, this is going to seem overly harsh...but... paleotn Dec 2019 #16
liimbaugh read a short email he claimed was real which said a lot of what is said here certainot Dec 2019 #18
"to fit a paucity of evidence" Botany Dec 2019 #19

Midnight Writer

(21,719 posts)
1. "Shameless Hack" is the dictionary definition of "Republican Scholar".
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

The country will be paying for the hackery of "economist" Lawrence Laffer forever, and he is still getting awards.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
17. I'm sure there are many competant Costitutional Law experts who are
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:15 PM
Dec 2019

conservative republicans out there. The fact that they had to bring a hack like Turley to something as important as an impeachment hearing to be their mouthpiece states volumes about how few people are willing to participate in the shitshow that the republican congress has become.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Yup. Turley's opening schtick was that both parties had become
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:38 PM
Dec 2019

so dysfunctionally "enraged" (ENORMOUS false equalization) that it's come to the point that one of them, the Democrats, have abandoned duty, integrity, even decency to actually try to impeach -- even though our case is "wafer-thin," Democrats lack "limiting principles," we're treating impeachment like "impulse-buy Nike sneakers," and Trump's actions were "inappropriate" but not impeachable.

And coming after the excellent and highly principled constitutional scholars my favorite, his emphatic: "It's wrong because that's not how you impeach an American president." "That" being a list of ways Democrats are avoiding justice to railroad the impeachment. It's on PBS's Republican-lie-serving YouTube video of Turley's closing remarks.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Grade triple C. We tried CBS's evening news
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:33 PM
Dec 2019

With Nora O’Donnell tonight, and it was an enormous improvement over what it used to be. The show moves every segment along very fast so they get a lot of news information in.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
8. He talked like a guy who makes his living
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:17 PM
Dec 2019

Dumbing down the law for right-wing media. Like he plays an academic on tv.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
14. Rachel Maddow took him apart on her show last night.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:59 PM
Dec 2019

Totally exposed him and showed video of Adam Schiff kicking his ass during an impeachment hearing for a judge ten years ago. Turley was the defense lawyer for the judge and lost big time.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
16. Sorry, this is going to seem overly harsh...but...
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:09 PM
Dec 2019

I hate all Republicans with the heat of a thousand suns!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
18. liimbaugh read a short email he claimed was real which said a lot of what is said here
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:17 PM
Dec 2019

with a little more force but no real threat, supposedly written by a student at GW.

along with attacks on the other witnesses and 3 years of attacks on the 'deep state' and all the investigators, he was basically saying to the dittoheads "so what are you going to do about it?"

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