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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:36 AM Dec 2019

Have you spoken to a single GOP colleague who is even considering impeachment? Senator Murphy: "YES"

Have you spoken to a single GOP colleague in the Senate who's even considering voting for impeachment?"

Sen. Chris Murphy: "Yes."

Geist: "You have?"

Murphy: "Yes."



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Have you spoken to a single GOP colleague who is even considering impeachment? Senator Murphy: "YES" (Original Post) kpete Dec 2019 OP
Somebody should let him know Senators don't vote on impeachment n/t Shrek Dec 2019 #1
I think the implication is voting to convict NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #4
They don't? mindfulNJ Dec 2019 #2
They are. They do not vote on impeachment. The House does that. DFW Dec 2019 #7
McConnell is probably referring to Senate rules rather than the constitution Shrek Dec 2019 #9
K&R... spanone Dec 2019 #3
Willie Geist helping educate the viewers on the process... Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2019 #5
He admits it's a small handful lagomorph777 Dec 2019 #6
Those that won't impeach him yet duforsure Dec 2019 #8
How very delicious. :) nt jaysunb Dec 2019 #10
"five at most" moondust Dec 2019 #11
I'm sure Susan Collins will consider voting for impeachment. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #12

DFW

(54,341 posts)
7. They are. They do not vote on impeachment. The House does that.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:00 AM
Dec 2019

Apparently even many Democrats seem to not get how impeachment works, or what it is. Impeachment is equivalent to an indictment.

If the full House votes to impeach, the Senate is to hold a trial. It then votes to convict (and remove from office) or not, in which case the president remains in office. McTurtle was making noises about stifling a Senate trial, but I don't see how he plans to find a constitutional article that permits him to do that.

What the Senator was undoubtedly referring to was that he had talked to a Republican Senator that would vote for conviction and removal of office. But 67 Senators must vote to convict and remove from office. There is a two thirds rule for that, and the chance that TWENTY Republican Senators would vote to remove Trump for office, even if he shot his family dead on live TV during a press conference, is exactly zero.

Besides, the Republican Senator was probably someone like Susan Collins, who would voice "concern" about Trump's actions, and then propose him to the Pope for Sainthood.

Shrek

(3,977 posts)
9. McConnell is probably referring to Senate rules rather than the constitution
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:21 PM
Dec 2019
A motion to adjourn the trial can take one of two forms: It can be an adjournment for the day, or it can be a motion to adjourn the trial sine die (Rule 23), which ends the trial altogether and thus functions effectively as a motion to dismiss. A motion to adjourn may be decided without the yeas and nays, unless one-fifth of the members present demand them (Rule 24). Whenever the trial is adjourned, the Senate shall resume its legislative and executive business (Rule 13). The secretary of the Senate must record the proceedings of the impeachment as he or she would legislative proceedings and report in the same manner (Rule 14).


https://www.lawfareblog.com/imagining-senate-trial-reading-senate-rules-impeachment-litigation

A motion to dismiss was made during the Clinton impeachment but the motion was defeated.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. He admits it's a small handful
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:55 AM
Dec 2019

(the count would fit on one hand) - and won't increase. He (of course) wouldn't say who.

Still, very intriguing!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. Those that won't impeach him yet
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:28 AM
Dec 2019

Will be causing their own careers to become destroyed as I think this is why Pelosi is rushing this, because its a national Security threat , and she's got the goods to use after they allow him to escape removal, then BAM! She releases, or others release damming info exposing trump and them too conspiring, and they are looking very complicit and criminal also . She's setting them and trump up, and they already know they'll be exposing a lot of corruption , and criminal acts they are all involved in. Of course trump and the GOP are walking into a trap now.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
11. "five at most"
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:52 PM
Dec 2019

I saw the exchange.

Of course "considering voting for" does not equal "planning to vote for."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
12. I'm sure Susan Collins will consider voting for impeachment.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:15 PM
Dec 2019

Right up until she has to vote. Then she'll vote for acquittal.

But she'll agonize over it. Publicly.

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