Farmers stick with Trump over trade

[yortsed snacilbuper]

From the very start, President Donald Trump's trade war was painful for American soybean farmers.

China's tariffs immediately wiped out what was once their biggest export market, worth $12 billion in 2017. That was more than a year ago. Soybeans have since piled up in bins, sending the amount in storage up 108% in 12 months. The price per bushel has fallen to a 10-year low.

The situation looks bleak, and tariffs have hit other crops like corn and wheat, too. Many farmers have expressed frustration, and some have even said they no longer support the President. But farmers, a politically important group for Trump, are staying afloat -- largely thanks to Trump's bailout -- and that's keeping some on board with Trump's trade war.

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[Skittles]

1. so......handouts are OK for them

but not for others

GOT IT

[bluestarone]

7. That's who they are!

Don't give a fuck for anyone but themselves

[Squidly]

9. Living in farm country...

It amazes me how they scream about socialism and people on welfare while the American farmer is the SINGLE BIGGEST recipient of government hand outs

[mr_lebowski]

26. It IS amazing shit isn't it?

Welcome to DU ... sounds like you'll fit in well here

[Volaris]

27. Yep at this point in our history, crop prices have mostly been set by the govt,

And the industry is regulated and 'nationalized'.
TO THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF EVERYONE.

Republican voters are idiots. That's my opening argument from now on.
Everything else is just proof of concept.

[burrowowl]

44. No oil companies are still subsidized

and I think they get even more. Scary!

[liberal N proud]

51. Farmers have long received handouts while criticizing others

I once saw a sign in a field in Iowa saying he'll wall for welfare moms.

I looked up the government subsidies the farmer recieved to learn it was over $100,000.

There are several databases that track subsidies to farmers.

[bearsfootball516]

2. You simply can't fix stupid.

It's why these voters can't be "reasoned with" or won over. We just have to turn out in bigger numbers and flat out beat them.

[Blue_true]

12. I totally agree. We can't let our internal differences cause us to take our eyes

off that reality.

[msongs]

3. so what happens when repubs cancel the socialist welfare bailouts? nt

[smirkymonkey]

4. I honestly hope they all go under.

For those who continue to support him. They are such suckers, they deserve what they are getting. If they vote for him again, I hope they all drown in debt.

[Blue_true]

13. It has gotten to the point where city dwellers would be better off buying

imported produce, milk and meat.

[smirkymonkey]

16. I would agree. But Trump will slap tariffs on those items as well.

We cannot win with him in office. He is hell bent on screwing us all over and placing the blame on everyone but himself.

[Blue_true]

43. Good points all. nt

[Volaris]

28. Or setting up ways to grow their own...

Cant think of a much better use for a Dead Mall than to convert it into a massive greenhouse and open a grocery store in it.

[roamer65]

34. That is a really good idea.

[roamer65]

33. Canadian agricultural products should be imported into the US.

[Blue_true]

45. My friends in the northeast say that Canadian grown tomatoes are sold there.

So some items are imported from Canada.

[roamer65]

54. New England would be better off as a Canadian province than in the US.

They have more in common with Nova Scotia and New Brunswick than they do with Alabama or Texas.

Same goes for most of the border states from Minnesota to the East.

[sakabatou]

5. Guess they really like shooting themselves in the foot multiple times

[LonePirate]

6. His trade positions and their livelihoods have nothing to do with why they support him.

Of course, there was not a single mention in that article as to why they support him (racism).

[CatMor]

8. I agree with you ..

it definitely has to do with racism. The rural/country areas have a history of racism.

[stopdiggin]

30. Trump support obviously has an element of racism

On the other hand .. I think racism is pretty ubiquitous in American society .. and probably pretty evenly distributed. I think you'd be hard pressed to make an argument that racism was more prevalent in rural areas than in urban.

[Skittles]

11. yup

I definitely think racism is the number ONE reason how anyone could STILL support that vile bastard.

[LonePirate]

14. The 1% still support him for the corruption and money with a side of racism for some.

For the regular folks, it's a heaping helping of racism and nothing else.

[jaysunb]

15. Number 1,2, 3 and then anything else Fox tells them n/t

[NickB79]

53. Race, guns and abortion

My dad's side are all farmers. All vote on these issues.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. They are growing ca$h crop$ now.

Literally.

[Newest Reality]

17. Green Acres

Green Acres on welfare, ey?

Well, why don't we all just go get a farm and live like a Corn Queen with that there free welfare money to wast on moonshine and jackasses? Get a jab you socialist commie Soviet collective farmers living on my damn dime. Why I outta...

[Baked Potato]

38. Just lol

Why I outta...

[paleotn]

18. Commies.

[Ron Green]

19. I have no respect for anyone who grows a monoculture crop

like soybeans when he could build soil and biodiversity with actual food.

[guillaumeb]

20. So this bailout, would these farmers call it welfare

if it were given to other people? Or bribes perhaps?

Trump is basically buying their votes.

[Jake Stern]

37. I lived around these shitkickers

They love to rant self righteously about how they "worked for everything they got" and "God helps those that help themselves".

Guess who is first in line at the FEMA trailer with their hand out after a tornado blows through the area?

[guillaumeb]

56. When something happens to them, it is beyond their control.

When that "something" happens to others, it is due to poor life choices.

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

21. It's all because of Trump's stupidity

It's not just our farmers that are being harmed -- it's the whole country. And it's all because of Trump's stupidity in not realizing how much our farmers depend on the Chinese market.

This will do long-term damage to our country.

[uriel1972]

23. Nooooo I don't think Trump is worthy of that blame...

He is rather like Uncle Adolf in that people like to blame him because the truth is hard to bear.
The truth is that all those nice, normal people you meet on the street put him in power and that truth hurts.
Far easier to believe that some evil person is running the show, that way you can evade responsibility and pretend you didn't have anything to do with it.


By the way I'm not saying you as in you personally, but you as in the general person in the street. Sorry for any inconvenience, or heart attacks.

[W_HAMILTON]

22. "Staying afloat," my ass.

Farm bankruptcies are now at levels not seen since early in the recovery from the Great Recession and farm debt is projected to reach record levels this year.

[stopdiggin]

35. Well .. who ever said we had to know what we were talking about?

can't we have a good rant without some wisenheimer coming on here and playin' all damp dishrag?

[JDC]

24. Socialists through and through

[uriel1972]

25. Got to love Socialist Conservatives...

Socializing costs, while Privatizing profits.

[madinmaryland]

29. What the dumb fuckers don't realize is the first thing Putin will do is ...

Take their fucking guns. Thanks you goddamn fucking MORONS.

[roamer65]

42. If the Russians come over here I plan on turning them in for cash.

Eliminate the opposition then fight the Russians.

[Jake Stern]

31. After Trump's re-elected and no longer beholden to these farmers politically

he'll toss 'em aside like one of his mistresses.

Mark my words: those bailouts will suddenly become "too expensive" and will be cut.

If we still control the House and maybe take the Senate, all the better for him - he'll just blame the Dems and these sod kickers will nod their heads in agreement.

If they re-take congress he'll instead say that they had to cut the program to "fix the Democrat's deficit" and the yokels will still nod their heads in agreement.

We need to write them off. They're a lost cause.

[Blue_true]

47. You are making the assumption that if Trump is re-elected he won't shoot for

President for life. He has already made noises in that direction. We have to soundly defeat him at the polls and take back all of Congress.

[Jake Stern]

48. Totally agree

Was just commenting on “what if”

[roamer65]

32. Good. Bring on the tariff war.

I hope the Chinese tariff the shit outta them after Dec 15.

We have to take the Congress next year and then kill ALL agricultural subsidies.

These stupid idiots need to lose their farms as punishment for their Dump love.

[Blue_true]

49. I doubt that agricultural subsidies will be killed if we take all of Congress.

Remember that a lot of our current members represent farm states and if we expand our numbers, a lot of the expansion will come via districts that are suburban/rural, and those new members won't be gun-ho to bite the hands that elected them.

What we should do is get trade policy back on a sane path and do realistic negotiations with China to resolve sticking points like metals, glass and Tech intellectual property protection.

[roamer65]

50. I fully expect the urban vs rural divide to be worse in next years election.

Most of those subsidies go to corporate farms. Corporate farming should not be subsidized.

[LakeArenal]

36. There is some difference between small family farms and

the big corporation farm destroying family farming.

I have seen some farmers protesting trump and handouts.

I know no statistics on anything, however.

[burrowowl]

46. True what yo say, big Ag gets the most bailouts

[Demsrule86]

39. Well they deserve what will happen...highest number of farmers going under since 2009.

[Baked Potato]

40. Trump backed his big ass up to their faces

and blew a windex shit all over them. They cleared their eyes, licked themselves clean, and thanked him. Then, Trump sent them a big fat check. He shit on them, but gosh darn-it, he’s got their backs. The end.

[dchill]

41. They love socialism - when they're on the receiving end.

But they still hate socialists!

[dustyscamp]

52. Hopefully a biblical horde of locusts eat all their crops someday

[keithbvadu2]

55. Socialism is ok?