**What/Where to Watch at Monday's Impeachment Hearing** THREAD 1

[hlthe2b]

Last edited Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:13 AM - Edit history (2)

The basics: Who, what, when and how to watch. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html

Who: The House Judiciary Committee will hear presentations of the evidence by Democratic and Republican lawyers.

What: The “opening arguments” will be made by Barry H. Berke for the committee Democrats and Stephen R. Castor for the Republicans. Daniel S. Goldman, the Democratic counsel for the House Intelligence Committee, will then present the evidence for impeachment, and Mr. Castor will present the evidence against it. Judiciary Committee members will then ask questions.

When and Where: The morning proceedings start at 9 Eastern in the House Ways and Means Committee chambers. They will most likely last until late in the afternoon.

How to Watch***: The New York Times will stream the testimony live, and a team of reporters in Washington will provide real-time context and analysis of the events on Capitol Hill. Follow along at nytimes.com, starting a few minutes before 9.

After hearing from constitutional scholars last week, the House Judiciary Committee turns from theory to reality as it conducts its first hearing on the evidence in the case against Mr. Trump and examines whether his actions rise to the level of impeachable offenses.

*** Ways to stream-watch or listen:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/impeachment-hearing-today-judiciary-committee-watch-live-stream-today-2019-12-09/

https://www.c-span.org/video/?467123-1/hearing-evidence-impeachment-inquiry

Listen only: https://www.radio.com/impeachment-hearings/listen

On edit: it is possible network tv will cover, but they have not announced it and online tv schedule does not indicate (likewise did not announce in advance plans to cover last week's hearing). Obviously MSNBC and CNN will cover live.

[Arkansas Granny]

1. Thanks for the info.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Yeah let's hear GOP lawyers declare his sweet little innocence

load on the bs

[steventh]

3. Thanks for the ways to watch or listen

This could be quite informative

[nitpicker]

4. C-Span and NPR news stations will also be covering

C-Span preview starts at 830 ET, NPR at 9.

[Mike 03]

5. Thank you!!!

[FailureToCommunicate]

6. Helpful guidance, thanks!

[malaise]

7. K & R

Ready and waiting

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Here are some links

[hlthe2b]

15. Thanks BRDS for the additional links... I have to work this morning, so I turn it over to you

[BumRushDaShow]

16. dewsgirl got a thread going too

so we can teamwork it!

[dalton99a]

25. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Kicking - about to start

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Nadler has come into the room...

[OhNo-Really]

11. MSNBC. Recording the day

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Nadler gavelling in...

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Getting an interruption by a protestor

[defacto7]

14. Thank you for the comprehensive post.

It's always very helpful having the pointers ready to go.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Attempting to go to the GOP opening statement and the circus starts up

Points of order and other nonsense.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Doug Collins (R-GA) up - MUTE

[hlthe2b]

19. Unmute: Nadler standing firm

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Majority counsel - Barry Berke recognized for 30 minutes

[hlthe2b]

34. Michelle Obama Says The Impeachment Hearings Are 'Surreal'--read during the disruption

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212763984

[BumRushDaShow]

37. It shows how far the GOP has fallen since 2010 Citizen's United.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Berke played clip of Amb. William Taylor

[ancianita]

23. Barry Burke is passionately strong about the facts. I hope he'll be a manager in the trial.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. They did say they will probably be using a counsel as a prosecutor

Not sure whether they will use Berke or Dan Goldman (Goldman was the House Intelligence Committee's counsel for the Democrats).

[hlthe2b]

27. They are not limited to one impeachment manager. R's had 13 to argue impeachment of Clinton

in the Senate.

So, surely Golman, Berke and several of their behind the scenes counsel are likely to be included.

[ancianita]

29. Let's hope so. Goldman, Burke, and Eisen are top notch.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Berke (for majority) played clip of Fiona Hill - justification for an impeachable offense

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Now invoking Ghouliani

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Berke describing how the obstruction of the investigation is also obstructing the election

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Berke played clip of Drumpf welcoming Russia to "find the missing emails"

and noted that within 5 hours of that rally invitation, the hack occurred by Russian.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Majority counsel done. Attempting to get minority testimony (Castor) going - zoo show.

[Roland99]

32. NY Times live coverage with live analysis

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/09/us/politics/trump-impeachment-hearings.html

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Vote to tabl point of order motion regardling the rules for witneses vs members- impugning the Prez.

[Roland99]

35. #TraitorGOP has NO case so they engage in theatrical drama to try and disparage the proceedings

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. I see the Republicans are still being procedurally obstructionist and disingenuous.

The act is getting really really old now.

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Castor oil (Steve Castor GOP counsel) doing the same fictional "no collusion" nonsense

[hlthe2b]

42. Anything else? He's slightly less irritating than the other R's, but I sill can't listen to him...

[BumRushDaShow]

43. He is projecting now by claiming the Democrats devised a conspiracy

[I_UndergroundPanther]

39. I have antenna tv

And I am watching it on CBS.

[hlthe2b]

40. Yes. all the networks have it as does NPR radio. They didn't announce it early on but...

I'm relieved to see they are covering.

[NJCher]

53. at work

Listening on the radio through my phone.

I have to work today and was I ever annoyed this is the first hearing I was going to miss. All the others I have been able to work my schedule around.

Then I came up with this idea to listen surreptitiously with one earbud, heh.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

56. Shit shit shit

My antenna tv lost signal.
Guess I will be watching on my phone. Funny how the signal goes out when Democrats take the mic.
Wonder if it is deliberately done.

[Bayard]

41. Sick to death of rethugs

Saying procedures lined out in the Constitution are outrageous.....oversight such as getting tax returns.

[nolabear]

44. 6 am is too early on the Left Coast. Sounds like I missed nothing.

Same old same old. I love how they speechify (Lawyer Castor at the moment) about how things haven’t been done that haven’t been done YET. I guess dependents gonna defend. They know this is about them, not just him.

[crickets]

45. I joined late as well

Just in time for Castor, apparently. This man has nothing of substance to say but he will spend a lot of time not saying it. You folks and Wonkette are catching me up.

https://www.wonkette.com/insert-clever-impeachment-headline-here-an-impeachment-hearing-liveblog

They know this is about them, not just him.

Damn straight. I love the smell of flop sweat in the morning.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. I feel for you guys

being at the whim of the east coast time.

Even a 10 am ET start is 7 am there.

He's done!

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Castor done. Berke is "excused" and Dan Goldman will now be presenting for Democrats

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Dan Goldman (for Ds) and Castor Oil now sworn in as official "witnesses".

[crickets]

49. The whining, the whining

Pretending not to know who witnesses are and when they are sworn in, pretending documentation of the previous hearings *they attended* are too much to deal with, oh.... poor babies.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Motion to table agreed to. Dan Goldman (counsel from Intelligence Committee) now giving statement

as a witness.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

51. Republicans are literally trying to silence a witness right now, arguing that....

Republicans are literally trying to silence a witness right now, arguing that it violates Senate rules for a witness to “question the character of the president” . . . **in an impeachment hearing.**

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Part of Goldman's bio - worked for SDNY as a prosecutor for 10 years

[Kali]

54. argh

the anal retentive perfectionist in me is hating on whoever did the graphics

[BumRushDaShow]

55. Goldman is killing the bull about no results from the Mueller investigation

and noted the 12 Russians indicted, etc.

[H2O Man]

57. Right.

Mr. Goldman is outstanding.

[BumRushDaShow]

58. I love the gravitas in his presentation

[H2O Man]

59. Me, too.

He is the perfect person for this moment. I've always had a high opinion of him. It has grown in recent weeks.

[BumRushDaShow]

60. Goldman invoking Pence...

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Goldman laying out the shake-down timeframe

regarding the promised "meeting" between Zelensky and Drumpf and then the military aid.

[hlthe2b]

62. Hah! Castor's briefcase...

Link to tweet

Oh, well. At least it is recyclable. Might be the only thing I like about the guy

[BumRushDaShow]

63. Goldman is now concluding his remarks

[BumRushDaShow]

64. ****15 MINUTE RECESS****

[malaise]

65. These ReTHUG scumbags have no manners

no understanding of process or decency

[crickets]

66. They understand the process. They are performing for those who don't.

This includes the Tangerine One and many of his base who are watching. It's disgraceful.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. About to start...

[elleng]

68. Castor oil up

[crickets]

69. New posters!

I see a milk carton with the 'Missing' label but can't make out the photo. Is it Adam Schiff? Are Repubs pretending he is no show to a committee meeting - when he doesn't belong to said committee and therefore has no reason to be there? Is it the whistleblower? Just curious.

I wonder if Gaetz came up with this one.

[uponit7771]

70. Castor is sworn in and he's lying, what the hell is this?!

[crickets]

73. Good question.

Repub committee members who are not sworn in have lied all over the place, but this is different. I wonder if there's any way to call him on it or any sort of repercussions.

[malaise]

71. Am I the only one who mutes the ReTHUGs?

I no longer want to hear a word from them

[Wednesdays]

72. At least Castor isn't an asshole

He's wrong on all points, of course, but at least I can tolerate listening to him.

[malaise]

76. Can't tolerate any of them

[George II]

74. Collins called Goldman's statement "monotone", wonder what he thinks of Castor's?

[BumRushDaShow]

75. **** THREAD 2**** going now

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212764441