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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:43 PM Dec 2019

If you're upset about Dems dealing on USMCA, McConnell walked right into Pelosi's trap



Emma Dumain
@Emma_Dumain
McConnell announces at the mics the Senate WILL NOT take up USMCA until AFTER the Senate impeachment trial

Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
So McConnell wants to hold USMCA hostage so the impeachment trial can be depicted as the obstacle to a bipartisan trade deal. So the turtle is a snake.
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If you're upset about Dems dealing on USMCA, McConnell walked right into Pelosi's trap (Original Post) StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP
all trade deals transfers wealth upward. pelosi did the best she could in a f uped system. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #1
McConnell said there are a bunch of things in the trade deal he doesn't like. octoberlib Dec 2019 #2
Nancy Pelosi is a gem. So savvy. I trust her judgement. panader0 Dec 2019 #3
Democrats would do well to vote against this trade deal. W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #4
I agree with you, let the Republicans own it. Then blame them for everything doc03 Dec 2019 #17
Did someone say something about kacekwl Dec 2019 #5
My understanding is this, Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #6
This puts the Turtle in a hot spot.... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #7
... StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #8
Exactly.... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #10
Madame Speaker is brilliant. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #9
Never underestimate Nancy Pelosi mcar Dec 2019 #11
And they never seem to learn StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #13
The last NAFTA was a Republican doc03 Dec 2019 #12
From what I heard, the Dems got AFL-CIO and environmental groups on board. haele Dec 2019 #15
So Trump can claim he improved that bad NAFTA agreement that Clinton doc03 Dec 2019 #16
While it won't work on us here, Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #14

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. all trade deals transfers wealth upward. pelosi did the best she could in a f uped system.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019

so let's destoy that system.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. McConnell said there are a bunch of things in the trade deal he doesn't like.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:10 PM
Dec 2019

Probably all the stuff the Democrats put in. So if the Senate messes around with it and it goes back to the House altered, it might not pass anyway.

W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
4. Democrats would do well to vote against this trade deal.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:18 PM
Dec 2019

It will not be some panacea for our economic problems. Our economy will continue to leave most people behind, and people will be looking for someone/something to blame -- might as well go on the record as opposing this trade deal because otherwise you will be forced to defend it in the future when it still leaves us with the same problems we face today.

doc03

(35,295 posts)
17. I agree with you, let the Republicans own it. Then blame them for everything
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:54 AM
Dec 2019

that goes wrong about the economy like they have us for the last 25 years,

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. My understanding is this,
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:47 PM
Dec 2019

there are tons of details yet to be worked out. So as someone mentioned,Madam Speaker just checkmated Moscow Mitch biggly.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
11. Never underestimate Nancy Pelosi
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:08 PM
Dec 2019

People on this board and social media do it all the time (wonder why?), but she comes out on top.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. And they never seem to learn
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:15 PM
Dec 2019

Each time, she proves them wrong - in spades. But then they go right back to second-guessing her.

Pretty amazing, actually.

doc03

(35,295 posts)
12. The last NAFTA was a Republican
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:14 PM
Dec 2019

idea that GHWB couldn't get passed because Democrats wouldn't support it. Then when Bill Clinton got elected he managed to get enough Democratic votes to get it passed. The Republicans have hung NAFTA around Democrats neck for over 20 years. In that time we have lost millions of good UNION manufacturing jobs and blue collar support. Democrats need to turn the tables now and hang that agreement around the Republicans neck. If Democrats think it is good give them just enough votes to get it passed but let them own it.

haele

(12,640 posts)
15. From what I heard, the Dems got AFL-CIO and environmental groups on board.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:34 AM
Dec 2019

Not perfect, but there's supposed to be more robust environmental, labor protection/fair labor enforcement, Heath and safety monitoring in the legislation than was in NAFTA.
There does need to be some form of trade regulations and agreements in place, and it sounds as if this attempt is better for workers and the economies involved than the previous trade agreement.

Haele

doc03

(35,295 posts)
16. So Trump can claim he improved that bad NAFTA agreement that Clinton
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:47 AM
Dec 2019

jammed down our throats. I guess I should be happy about giving him a winning campaign issue for 2020.

Mr.Bill

(24,236 posts)
14. While it won't work on us here,
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:29 PM
Dec 2019

The repubs will spin it that Nancy Pelosi timed the impeachment to keep them from approving the trade bill, and it's all her fault and she did it on purpose. Their base will buy that hook, line and sinker.

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