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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEmmanuel Macron calls for creation of a 'true European army' to defend against Russia and the US
Emmanuel Macron has called for the creation of a true European army to allow the EU defend itself from threats ranging from Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin.
The French president has pushed for closer EU defence union since coming to power last year but has been so far met with limited success amid foot-dragging by other member states.
We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America, Mr Macron told Frances Europe 1 radio in an interview.
When I see President Trump announcing that hes quitting a major disarmament treaty which was formed after the 1980s Euro-missile crisis that hit Europe, who is the main victim? Europe and its security.
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More at https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-european-army-france-russia-us-military-defence-eu-a8619721.html
Just another example of the damage Trump is doing to America's reputation.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)He probably knows more than almost anyone ever about war. Wars are so easy to win.
I can't say I blame Macron for taking that stance considering how the stage is being set. However, it is a bad sign, as well.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)A foreign leader saying what must MUST be said and said DAILY!
triron
(21,984 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)This is Putin's wet dream, you know.
Caliman73
(11,726 posts)Putin wants Russia to be a global superpower in the vein of the former USSR (except with him being rich and in power). They are not thrilled about China's rise except that it weakens the United States. He is likely figuring he will deal with that further down the road. If the US continues down the road of where Trump is taking us, then Europe will have no choice but to forge a new alliance.
The bad thing is that absent the explicit protection under American arms, the countries of Europe, whether united or by themselves will feel they need to expand their own arsenals. There will be another powder keg with France, Germany, England, and other countries looking to beef up their military and Russia expanding their own. That kind of thinking is what took the world 2 war in 1914 and again in 1939. With Japan and South Korea thinking that they need to do the same in the Pacific because of China's growing threat and North Korea constantly saber rattling, we are going to see arms races with ever increasing chances of regional war that could spark a global conflagration.
Putin thinks he can manage it, but Russia will be engulfed as well.
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)James48
(4,428 posts)Weve always been at war with Eastasia.
Voltaire2
(12,965 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Hell, I don't trust us now.
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)The rot has infiltrated our government on every level.
Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)I guess
Jfc man
triron
(21,984 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)Smart move by Macron.
I hope he is who I think he is. I will follow.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Your fear of the other, your lust for guns.....now our long time Western Allies are linking us with Putin and Russia.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)to ultimately defeat the United States and tear it down.
Putin is a strategic genius.
ancianita
(35,950 posts)dflprincess
(28,072 posts)our oldest ally feeling it needs protection from us.
ancianita
(35,950 posts)AND 75% of all EU gas & oil travel THROUGH UKRAINE. At least as of six years ago.
The EU needed us to be their new supplier. And Trump shit on them.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Harker
(13,988 posts)every four years can lead to this country showing symptoms akin to schizophrenia.
The US is a threat to every country right now, including itself.
Farmer-Rick
(10,140 posts)The US on the side of a short little Russian mobster. All for stolen wealth and crushing the backs of the workers. Putin has turned Russia into a broken country with a never ending recession for the average Russian, while he collects all the wealth for himself.
A country with the economy of France but with over twice as many people, should not be so economicly stunted. That is what the murdering psycho has in mind to turn the US into with the help of the likes of Bezo, Zuckerberg and Gates.
Grins
(7,199 posts)And we blocked him with NATO. Sad.
Hekate
(90,565 posts)...world history, of course, but world history is full of wars that last 30 years, a 100 years...
The US was instrumental in preventing a third World War in the latter half of the 20th century. That's a real accomplishment.
But many of the last 2 generations of Americans know all this only as myth, not reality. They know a lot of things that just ain't so, too. Not everyone got stupid and/or greedy; just enough.
And then we installed a traitorous tool, someone who has put the lie to all our promises, and may prove to be our undoing.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I never imagined that things could get this bad. He has got to go.
appalachiablue
(41,105 posts)Tom Yossarian Joad
(19,226 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,397 posts)And Trump is a traitor who is bringing the USA low. I despise him.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)You never know what crazy sh't American will do next.