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From Heather Cox Richardson EMAIL
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Unlike Trump, who can win by gaming the Electoral College, or Representatives, who can win by gerrymandering, Senators have to compete in their entire state. So while Trump and Republican Representatives can rely on ginning up their base, Senators cannot afford to alienate more moderate voters. If there is a trial, they want it quick and quiet.
Meanwhile, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has kept the articles simple to make the issue easy to understand and moved them quickly to keep the nations attention. An early vote in the Senate will also force Senators to declare their support (or lack of support) for Trump while there is still time for primary challengers to jump into the 2020 race. Senators who vote to convict Trump can expect to have pro-Trump challengers, whom Trump has already made it clear he will support over those who turn on him, while those who vote to exonerate him will have a terrible time in a general election. It's a pickle.
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rufus dog
(8,419 posts)they cost themselves seats in the last two cycle by getting the crazies elected in primaries. Have at it again you ignorant, anti American, mfers.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He has to somehow defend someone who publicly confessed to a crime that was corroborated by his associates. He will need to magically produce some exculpatory information (which doesnt exist because, confession) and do so very quickly, because when he gets the case, its election year. Any delays in the process should hurt republicans at the ballot box.
Good luck with all that, Mitch.
Nice work, Democratic leadership.
Massacure
(7,518 posts)Take Jeff Flake's statement at face value that there are at least 30 republican Senators who would vote to impeach trump if the vote were by secret ballot. If that is true, wouldn't Mitch McConnell's logical course of action be to whip his caucus to impeach Trump, and move on with an incumbent Mike Pence heading the presidential ticket?
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Even if 30 Republican Senators want to convict Trump, and that's definitely not the case, they know that it would enrage the base and lead to all sorts of damaging rumors and speculation.
eppur_se_muova
(36,259 posts)Jarqui
(10,123 posts)Is the Constitution going to be upheld or not?
It should be plain for all the world to see how the Republicans feel about that.
They're the ones who enabled Trump.
They're as responsible for where we find ourselves today as Trump is.
Are the Republicans overwhelmed with Kompromat and corruption or not?
Even if they are, letting the country see that is heartbreaking but a good thing.
At the end of the day, given time for thought to digest the result, I do not think the country will stand for it.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)The only problem is that there are too many cultist idiots in red states who don't listen to real news.
mitch96
(13,891 posts)Push their talking points on Ukraine/Joe and Hunter Biden/Barisma and with that get tRump off the hook.
Now the trick is will it be an open election and show who voted where or a closed/anonymous vote.. YMMV
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)The time has come for you to earn your title.
The facts presented in the impeachment inquiry are not disputable. Will you assist Donald J. Trump and his cohorts in subverting our elections via Russian disinformation? Will you cede the co-equal status of Congress to a temporary occupant of the White House who clearly considers himself above Congress, Constitution, and law?
Will you henceforth be known and remembered as Senator McConnell, or as Moscow Mitch?
Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)Trump has a hold on the voting base, and McConnell defies that at his own peril.
Renato ray
(16 posts)A traitor.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)State borders that give voters in Wyoming the same Senate voting power as California have created a huge over-representation of rural voters who have a greater tendency to be white, right-wing, religious conservatives. The over-representation has grown tremendously in the past two centuries as the country became more urbanized.
To a lessor, but decisively important degree, the Electoral College has also given disproportionate power to a dangerously anti-democratic minority. This is how we ended up with Bush 2 and Trump. For more than a generation, the GOP has been gaming this flawed system by pandering to the fears and prejudices of voters in these over-represented states.
applegrove
(118,617 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...if that were to happen, and it won't, it would be imperative that the House be greatly expanded.
I don't see us doing away with this tyranny of the minority political system in my lifetime. And that's because the system can't be reformed for the very reasons why it so desperately needs to be reformed. This is the elephant in the room. We should have a whole new US Constitution, and I'm sure the founders would be shocked to know we don't have one given how much the nation and world have changed, but a constitutional convention would be a complete disaster. States like Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska and Kansas would get their way and we'd all be even worse off.
By 2040, nearly 70% of the population will be represented by just 30% of the Senate. That's simply not tolerable.