Horowitz hearing on the FBI: thread 2

[SamKnause]

[Imperialism Inc.]

1. So ridiculous to see these guys pretending they just discovered that

the FISA court is a joke, and a rubber stamp.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. Is the crux of Horowitz' issues

that there isn't some kind of special protocol for dealing with a potentially compromised political campaign or that it wasn't followed to a "T"? Has there ever even been a situation where the FBI might have had to investigate a compromised political campaign until Trump?

[Imperialism Inc.]

9. On FISA

He did mention perhaps needing special procedures if a political campaign is involved. (I think that was specific to FISA but might have been for counter intel investigations in general).

On the FISA process in general his complaints are not confined to just this case and is suggesting the process overall is borked. I'm just saying this isn't exactly a secret. It's common knowledge, and has been since FISA's creation. The Republicans seem to be taking the position that this is some big surprise and are even suggesting FISA may need to be scrapped.

[crickets]

2. Durbin is doing a great job

He called out Lindsey's 'performance' and then got right down to business.

[backtoblue]

3. Lee is just fear mongering

I haven't been watching all morning, but Durbin did a good job just now.

[spanone]

4. What the fuck is Lee talking about...lack of bias is evidence of bias?????

what a line of bullshit

[crickets]

8. That was the most horrifying example of doublespeak I have ever heard.

Lee's fear mongering and showboating were beyond the pale. I wish Horowitz had bothered to shut that down, but instead he virtually agreed.

[Vinca]

11. That's when I turned off the TV. That's stretching it too far to get Dear Leader

to love you. I just can't listen anymore..

[backtoblue]

5. Whitehouse up

[Iliyah]

7. Ya know . . .

Republicans really do hate The United States of America.

[a kennedy]

10. Crap......Blah, Blah, Blah, Cruz is pontificating now......

love how they think that yelling makes their point more true. Ugh.....

[crickets]

15. Mute button ahoy.

The beard does not help him a bit; it is so distracting.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. In listening to this it seems that all the Republicans can come up with is righteous indignation.

Just yelling and insinuations.

[cry baby]

13. The cult really doesn't even need microphones. They yell

so loud that it hurts my ears.

What they actually say makes my brain melt.

[backtoblue]

14. Cruz

...An FBI lawyer lied about an email in court.

(About a source)

Horowitz says no proof of intentional bias.

[backtoblue]

16. Klobuchar up

[crickets]

19. Kudos to her opening statement that the real reasons for the investigation are not partisan

Russia invaded with cyber attacks on our election, not with bombs. Stop making political hay and use the results of the report to make changes for the benefit of all. Well done for her.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. And Democratic questioning gets down to facts.

[backtoblue]

18. Sasse talking about Bruce Ohr

[crickets]

21. Yech, all of the Fusion GPS stuff seems so murky.

And Sasse has decided that Russia's threat to the 2020 election is old news! We need to worry about China in 2024 and beyond!

Squirrel!

[backtoblue]

24. They're trying to scapegoat

Russian interference by suggesting the Democratic party, DNC, and Obama administration were paying for information on trump and that our own government is more corrupt than Russia.

They're playing dangerous mind games with American citizens. Their supporters are fed continuous lies, while at the same time living in a hate-fueled bubble.

[Kali]

20. what state is this asshole Hawley from?

what a dick

[LibinMo]

22. My State-Missouri

I tuned to the hearing just in time for his questioning. Now I have a Senator that I detest even more than Roy Blunt. Didn't think that would ever be possible.

I need to go take my blood pressure pill.

[Kali]

23. sounded like he was making a play for Trump bootlicker of the day

never heard of him before.

[LibinMo]

26. I wish to God I'd never have to hear of him again

He defeated Claire McCaskill in the last election, courtesy of Trump. When it comes to Senators, we are now a two asshole state.

[Kali]

27. ah that's who he is

I just didn't remember how he got there.

[SWBTATTReg]

31. A very sad event in our state, w/ Hawley's win over Claire. I can't stand Hawley and he's so...

partisan it's pathetic.

[crickets]

25. A little behind and watching Blumenthal

He begins with a lovely thank you to career law enforcement and tells the FBI, "we've got your back."

Then as he asks a series of concise, obvious yes-no questions, he has trouble getting a straight yes or no from Horowitz. It's not complicated to say yes or no, and these are straightforward questions that are not trying to trip him on nuance. It's maddening.

[crickets]

28. Unlike the House hearings, Graham [chairman] follows each set of Minority questions

with an additional thirty seconds of rebuttal disguised as further questions. It must be in the rules that the Majority can do that, but it's a bit of dirty pool. He may do this after each Majority member as well and I just haven't noticed.

I much prefer the House format to this.

[Drum]

39. Agreed!

[ariadne0614]

29. Mazie the Magnificent! n/t

I was very impressed with her efficient, effective, productive questioning.

[elleng]

30. As usual!

[crickets]

32. She is very no-nonsense.

Her insistence on calling out the misuse of the word "spying" was masterful.

[elleng]

33. K. Harris questioning now.

[malaise]

35. Go Kamala!

Expose the scumbag ReTHUGs

[elleng]

36. Doing a good job TRYING to expose them.

[crickets]

42. She skewered Giuliani good! Hoo, that was fun. nt

[Drum]

34. I've never seen Senator Ernst on camera before, but wondering

why she could never find the Z in words like “authorized,” making it “authoried.”

I noticed that, and in watching her quickly developed a feeling of dislike for her gross overstatements and sour partisan denial. Blech.

[crickets]

37. Joni Ernst has her own shenanigans to defend at this point

Joni Ernst's campaign may have illegally coordinated with 'dark money' group
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212762154

https://www.startpage.com/rvd/search?query=Joni+Ernst+campaign+finance+violations

[Drum]

38. Thanks crickets! n/t

[The_Counsel]

40. Wait...Did Sen. Crapo Just Say That Whistleblowers Have More Rights...?

...than ordinary citizens??

He actually thinks that submitting an anonymous complaint is the same as confronting the the accused. Um...it's the EXACT OPPOSITE of that. In theory AND in practice.

[Raven123]

41. Glad he brought it up

The IG confirmed that whistleblower allegations are confirmed independently, so no need for “the accused” to meet his “accuser.” Look forward to see this in tonight’s impeachment debate.

[Drum]

43. Blackburn

[elleng]

44. UGH!

[The_Counsel]

45. Every Time I See Marsha Blackburn's Face...

...I want to punch Phil Bredesen in his.

I hate that I feel that way, but he had her BEAT in that 2018 Senate race--until he decided to try for the "Rabid Right" vote and announce support for ol' Rapey Kavanaugh. It had the opposite effect and he lost, thus, "Senator Blackburn."

[lynintenn]

50. The republicans ran a lot of negative ads about his governorship. Red meat to to ignorant.

I decided when Roy Herron, a Methodist minister, lost to Stephen Fincher, a gospel singer from FInger TN. Tennessee was lost forever.

[lynintenn]

47. My senator of which I am ashamed.

Home economics major. That's what we elected over a two-term popular Governor. We have some of the laxest gun laws in the country. Thank goodness I have a group of well-educated friends as a support group.

[IcyPeas]

46. Tax payers

Yeah Don Jr just went to friggen Mongolia to kill a rare sheep ON OUR TAX DOLLARS. Fuck you marsha

[UTUSN]

48. Just got back. Nicole is doing her (show?) - is the hearing over?

[elleng]

49. yes, hearing's over

[UTUSN]

51. Thanks, confrere!1

[elleng]

52. Pas de quoi!