It should terrify us that about 40% of Americans stand with the creature

[Cyrano]

Even if we win the White House and the Senate, that 40% will still be there, scheming how best to screw the rest of us.

There's nothing we can do to enlighten these people. There's no way we can make them grasp the fact that they are embracing pure evil.

But there is something we can do about those yet to come. Education. If Democrats attain full control of the government, that trillion dollar tax cut should be repealed and every penny of it thrown into educating the next generation. Some of them, no matter how well educated will retain the disease of Republicanism. But I believe we can turn the majority into enlightened, decent human beings.

[Fresh_Start]

1. yep, Trump isn't scary. Trump supporters are scary

Trump is already mentally impaired and his supporters don't see it.
Trump is ethically impaired and his supporters don't see it.

[dewsgirl]

4. The scary thing is, I think they DO see it and don't care.

[Initech]

53. With his base, it's not about rule of law.

It's about "owning the libs" and "triggering the snowflakes". That's what makes it really scary, IMO.

[lunatica]

14. The Trump base are themselves mentally impaired.

I’m deadly serious. Have you ever been around them when they talk to each other? You don’t need to interact at all. Just blend in and listen.

[Jake Stern]

83. My opinion isn't going to be popular here but

I truly believe he's just a tool being manipulated by the far right. As long as he can sign his name, they'll continue pretending to worship him and as long as they pretend to worship him, he'll continue to sign his name.

If he were to ever have enough of a brain fart to somehow get on the liberal side of an issue they'd drop him like a bad habit.


If it weren't Trump they'd have found another pliable figurehead for the right wingers to fawn over.


Sometimes watching him I wonder if the reason he's so "off the cuff" is because he truly is winging it. As in doesn't know what the fuck is really going on.

[Fresh_Start]

86. I also think he is a tool

but I dont think he can be manipulated because he is too erratic.

The people at the Trump rally aren't manipulating trump, they too are being manipulated

[guillaumeb]

2. Numbers matter.

If the 60% out vote the 40%, we can put in place policies to educate people, as well as transition to a green economy.

But as 2010 showed, when people act as if they elected a savior, and then sit back, bad things will happen.

[FiveGoodMen]

3. It does.

That's all I keep thinking.

We will be under attack for the rest of our lives.

[lunatica]

17. The good thing is we now know them and their mindset.

And we know there is no cure.

[Johnny2X2X]

5. I have lunch with one

Good guy, not that bright, but he's basically like, "Impeachment is just a witch hunt because Trump is a jerk." and "sure he lies, politicians lie."

They've equalized his 14,000 lies with Obama's hand full of lies. And they don't believe the 14,000 number. If you call him corrupt they say, "yes, politicians are corrupt." There's a cynicism informing their views, they've convinced for decades that everyone in government lies and is corrupt, so that excuses Trump's lying and corruption.

[appalachiablue]

57. A lot of that around-- given the ok to dismiss the complexities

or anything close to thinking about our nation and govt. On to the next sensation and circus is what matters to many.

Almost everything 'guvmint' is evil-- schools, workers, agencies, regulations, etc.

[Hulk]

61. Thank you "3rd rate actor ronnie" for giving them voice...

His ignorant line about "....government IS the problem" has been echoed every hour since. Goerbel would be proud.

[IcyPeas]

6. no we can't enlighten them

i honestly think they are just loving this because the libs get so mad.

trump and family and magats just love owning the libs, trolling the libs. that's all they have.

[shanti]

13. Probably because

for once, they feel that THEY are on top. they don't want to give up their perceived power, no matter who it hurts.

[COLGATE4]

24. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!!

[Kaiserguy]

37. I wonder how they will feel

when Trumps more extreme supporters start killing American's for the crime of not supporting Trump. Or citizens start to disappear into camps. We are standing on the edge and if we fall, Fascism awaits and all the evil it brings. Sadly they will probably be OK with it until it affects them and then it will be to late.

[appalachiablue]

16. At times I honestly believe they think it's a 'team thing'

their side v. the enemy's side like in sports and reality TV competitions. That's all- pure emotion and 'winning,' without considering truth, policy, civics, history or anything related to the intellect.

Sports and business are still surrogates for warfare and conflict and have been for ages.

[moose65]

48. You know, I think you're right

At times, it does seem like they see it all as a game and as long as they are "Winning" then they're happy. They don't care about policies. Most of them have no idea what the Republican Party platform is on any issue. Just like the Republicans who run for office, they love the campaign aspect of it, because it's kind of like a sporting event. There's the two sides and the "rah rah rah" aspect of it, and they seem to love that. The actual governing, not so much. They think that government is bad, period, so they don't care that that Republicans are terrible at governing. It's such a weird dynamic.

[appalachiablue]

90. That describes the phenomenon very well

[magicarpet]

52. Bread & Circus,.. just like Roman times....

1). Keep them fed...

2). Keep them entertained.

1). Then: Banquets, low cost food, rare imported goods.

Now: Fast food, potato chips, processed foods, KFC, Big Macs, soda, candy, and T.O. Pizza.

********

2). Then: The Colosseum, gladiators, lions, blood, guts, and death.

Now: Shopping, Reality TV, The Kardashians, Football, NASCAR, Religion, Bull shit red hat fascistic politics, and etc., etc.

[appalachiablue]

58. That's the picture, it's disturbing as h*ll. MS media is mostly corporate

and they're working on privatizing the American school system, bit by bit thanks to the Walnuts, Kochs and more.

Fighting the Guvmint, democrats, libruls, 'soshialists' is the new 'reason for living' to plenty.

The public school system is being eroded for decades by the privatization forces, and it's thought that 'guvmint schools' including colleges are liberal influencers.

Big corporate Media is highly consolidated and will stay that way.

[lunatica]

21. Now that we know them I can look into my past relationships and encounters

with some of them and see that what you say is a major indicator of their mentality and personality types. You don’t even have to be a “libtard”. You just have to be more intellectual or educated, or kind, or knowledgeable for them to want to get you, or get even, or make you suffer and pay.

[BruceWane]

30. Well.......

"You just have to be more intellectual or educated, or kind, or knowledgeable"

That's pretty much the definition of a "libtard" to the 40% that support this man, this administration, their policies, and the republican party in general.

[lunatica]

33. Yes, but that's not my point.

For example, if you show any higher human quality, like simply wanting to protect children who are abused who aren’t in the same ethnic or racial group, or animals or the planet they will react in a kind of defensive crouch even if you don’t reference them at all. It has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with their own psychological deficiencies in empathy. Many of them them are in family relationships that are so dysfunctional that their emotional and psychological maturation is arrested in infancy because of the abuse they received and which they believe is normal. Thus they pass it on to their children. They become overly self centered because they are incapable of learning to be other centered.

They are Trump without the money and privilege. He is them in everything but privilege.

[Newest Reality]

7. Yes, and here is an X-ray of the condition:

As per the last Presidential election. Perhaps the education effort could be targeted as per the indications? The Republican tactic of preying on ignorance and fear is something that should become obsolete if we want to be any kind of advanced society:

The red is for President Donald Trump and the blue is for Hillary Clinton, in case that wasn't already obvious.

Trump received 304 electoral votes to Clinton's 227. Yet because of how densely populated many of the blue areas are, Hillary still won the popular vote, with 65.8 million votes vs. Trump's 63 million

[ancianita]

39. At what age do people here propose this education take place? Under what subject is it taught?

[Newest Reality]

43. I don't think it is a specific suggestion...

In general, better education that includes more emphasis on critical thinking, reason and logic, (age specific of course) and maybe less emphasis on merely rote learning would be a good place to start. Children can become engaged and find learning to be a want rather than a have to.

I imagine educators would have a better handle on that. And speaking of which, better pay and support for teachers of K-12? We don't seem to be placing much value on teachers overall when it comes to pay and conditions, (in public schools) and that is another indicator. Obviously, pay grade is an incentive for preparation and the quality of the job. We pay other professions more.

How about that? I think there is plenty of room for improvement and I think education in many areas in the US has been lagging. There is a lot of room for improvement and there has been much neglect, including the school buildings in some areas, but it is easier to look that all up rather than read my comment.

[ancianita]

45. As long as people understand that the hour spent on it in school can be undone in the hours spent at

home.

The overall distrust of schools as "pits of liberal propaganda" are in whole families, neighborhoods and regions. In general, the very places that need this are the people who raise their kids to reject anything beyond home.

If there is some effect, it has to happen before age 12-14, when kids pull away from home and develop validated selves away from family validation.

[GusBob]

87. Between the ages of 16-26

And its already happening with respects to thesesubjects:
Gun control
Climate change
Religious participation
Social issues
And more

Younger folks are leading the way, our way now

[ancianita]

89. Cool. But when we talk about education, random exposure to these issues isn't either as consistent,

sustained in breadth and depth as systematic exposure.

As a former public high school teacher who worked through three of the above issues in the context of my class's content, I see more group discussion that instantly clarifies confusion, answers questions, provides broader examples than personal experience, etc.

So, how education happens -- whether organized or random -- has a lot to do with how educated one gets on current events.

[GusBob]

98. Random as in

Our worldviews are completely different I suspect

Speaking yesterday in Auckland NZ at Sustainable Coastlines,an enviro group I with whom I work, the PM of NZ said the leading topic of letters she gets from children is concern about plastics in the ocean. So I was wrong about the age thing these are children probably school aged. This is the same PM who got gun control passed easily in her country. I bet the kids are happy about that hey?

Prince Charles visited another group I work with, Sea Cleaners, last week also in NZ (My buddy met him!) This organization works closely with the navies of many Pacific rim nations. Their naval recruits are required to go thru training and actually pick up rubbish on beaches, coasts and waterways. I would reckon the average age of those recruits is 20

The answers are out there, not in the American classroom I am sorry to tell you.

[ancianita]

99. I accept that education is everywhere, all the time, for those who seek it. Thanks for your post.

I don't know about your completely different worldview. More like an unfair view.

I don't put forward anything about education as distinctly American. Or that early is the best.

My addition to the points previously made about "these people needing to be educated," sits in a context of a society historically set up by European forebears to not guarantee any right to education, a current context full of anti-education-speak, that lacks a sympathy for intellectual development.

I put forward the classroom as optimal, early, for children for the obvious reasons that people dealing with difference (alot of that here, perceived or real) can at least agree on having their children share the common experience of learning as exploration, reflection, mediated and unmediated exchange -- to cultivate in them a sympathy for later self directed learning and interaction.

Organized activities such as yours, hardly random, that are likely the product of the forementioned studies taken to scale.

Glad to see a monarch out there visiting the cleanup projects.

[hallcord]

69. Agree

This time around... Hillary will clean his clock... wait for it

[Newest Reality]

71. Heheheh

[Siwsan]

8. I have that thought, pretty much every morning

I'm glad that there's just on family member, in the area, who drinks the kool-aid. He's a 75 year old high school grad living on a nice union retirement pension. He spends hours, every week, looking up conspiracy stuff on a computer at the library. He won't buy a computer or get internet into his apartment because, well, I won't let my mind go there. You can't reason with him.

Trying to be nice, I invited him to join us for dinner, on Christmas Eve. He agrees to come, on the stipulation that nobody brings up trump*. We'll be drinking Manhattans before dinner, and wine with, so all bets are off. Maybe I'll move my big, framed poster of President Obama into the dining room.

[LakeArenal]

9. Not scared. We will oust him.

If not by Senate then by election.

Once he goes down in infamy you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone that will admit they ever voted for him.

The more importAnt statistic is 50% are for impeachment.

[pazzyanne]

10. It does. Every. Single. Day!

[unitedwethrive]

11. Absolutely. The first thing that any tyrant does is try and 'dumb down' the population.

The repubs have been working tirelessly to cut funding to public education for years. It it totally counter to what any well-meaning person would want for a society in which everyone can thrive. Clearly, this is not what they want.

[appalachiablue]

20. +1 Between 'fake news' on the internet, M$M, social media pumping

false info and our fractured, semi private public school systems it will be a real challenge to provide good education here.

[bdamomma]

72. When

you "dumb down" the masses the easier they can be controlled. We have seen that already.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Ask them what they stand for. what does Trump stand for?

because he doesn't stand for much of anything. it's all demonizing liberals with conspiracy fantasies.

[DownriverDem]

32. They talk about safe borders

Bottom line is that they vote their hate and fear. trump has played into that and will continue to do so. We need to win and then begin the process to get rid of the Electoral College.

[moondust]

15. We are marching to Dystopia

We are marching to Dystopia, Dystopia, Dystopia
We are marching to Dystopia
Dystopia, Hooorah!


(Previously Pretoria)

[yaesu]

18. The cult of stupidity is growing in this country. I blame lack of education & mind altering

prescription drugs.

[dustyscamp]

28. The RWNJ presence is very strong on social media there is hardly any Dem resistance

Social media will be one of the biggest tools to influence independents & the younger people to lean right going forward. Many Dems are refusing to see this and will just make some small noise about it or boycott it altogether.

[handmade34]

19. I would like to see

a reporter talking to trump supporters waiting in line for a rally ask: "how much have your stock holdings and/or investments increased during trump's time?"

[former9thward]

73. A very bad question.

Are your aware how much the market has increased?

[handmade34]

79. oh yes

the question is... how many of those people at the rallies have stock holdings? my educated guess is that most don't

[former9thward]

88. If they don't try and time the market they all participate in rallies.

Also most people have their stock holdings through their 401ks and those funds do not time the market. They have gone up.

[handmade34]

96. ...

only 32% of Americans have a 401(k) (motleyfool.com)

[former9thward]

97. Anyone who has lost money in the market in the last 10 years should not be in it.

[ToxMarz]

22. There are a lot of educated and very well educated Trump supporters.

Putin is very well educated, Stephen Miller is well educated. Of course education is important, but probably more effective in the terms of Civics type classes.

Electing our leaders (particularly nefarious candidates) seems to have some special ingredients which can be exploited that go beyond education. More in the primal/instinctual/psychological realms.

[ancianita]

42. Agree. Two friends of mine in CA have a masters and PhD between them and are about the Republican

agenda, willfully blind to Trump's agenda that makes Russians their friends. They won't talk rationally about this presidency, either.

I've other friends with nothing beyond high school diplomas who saw the realities of Trump before he was elected.

Some kind of re-educating about politics has to touch on the history of it, and what drives the anti-science, pro-belief, irrational sides of it.

[lunasun]

46. Thank you Yes

[LAS14]

92. There are two kinds of Trumpers. The educated ones know damn well...

... what's true and what's not and sacrifice everything to their own power and wealth (see a Krugman op-ed of a few weeks ago about why retiring GOPs don't speak out. They're going to cushy jobs.) And then there are the un-educated who will do anything in the name of tribalism. It's their kids we have to turn. A daunting task.

[ThoughtCriminal]

23. Demographic shifts and high mortality

Aging, overweight, white men who eat a steady diet of bacon will not be around forever. Let them know how their bad health habits make you and your liberal friends "Angry".

[former9thward]

74. Are white men the only ones who are overweight?

[world wide wally]

25. America is dead for all practical purposes.

Europe is forming a united armed forces to protect against us since we threw in with the Rusians

[former9thward]

75. No, there is no European armed forces.

And they are not forming one.

[world wide wally]

78. Macron suggested it yesterday

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46108633


The article is a year old. I just read it yesterday

[vapor2]

81. Thanks for the update

I have also read a few outdated articles but now checking the date on them before I post them anywhere.

[CaptYossarian]

26. The actual scary parts of all this:

1) Trump and McConnell have set the Supreme Court for many years.

2) These angry, ignorant Trump supporters have a majority of the guns.

3) Instead of state vs state, you have neighbor vs neighbor. The "enemy" is not as well-defined as in 1860.

[dustyscamp]

36. I'd like to add a number 4

4) RWNJ have a very strong presence on social media with hardly any Leftwing resistance to refute them. This presence gives the Right a very high chance in influencing independents & the younger people to lean right or totally ignore voting blue in future elections. There is very heavy backlash against "SJWs" in movies, games, comic books right now and these RWNJ are constantly bashing them in their videos & posts. New people see this and they say "Hey yeah maybe they have a point these SJW are ruining what I like" which creates more angry RWNJ. "SJWs" will always be linked with Democrat unfortunately.

The only way we can counter this is is to stay on social media and fight back against these guys. Build up a loyal base and stick through it or else they will always dominate. Don't willingly give up the platform in order to make yourself feel better in the end you're only helping them win by silencing your voice.

[CaptYossarian]

62. Is it the same ratio as talk radio? They've captured that too.

Not many outlets for sane people.

[dustyscamp]

65. I think it might be the same

Pewdiepie for example has 102mil subs not all of them are alt right fanatics for sure, but I'm betting the majority are rwnjs
https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/pewdiepie

Here's a few more examples
https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/stevencrowder/realtime
Steven Crowder 4,250,000

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/jordanpetersonvideos
Jordan Peterson 2.41M

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/thealexjoneschannel
Alex Jones 2.43M

These Alt-Right guys also hide out at The chans, Telegram, Gab, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter.

[CaptYossarian]

68. I hope those millions are repeaters. Just like when I used to watch hours of MSNBC.

[scheming daemons]

27. I choose to be heartened about the 60% who stand against him.

[FakeNoose]

29. It's NOT 40% of Americans, it's 40% of *voting* Americans

This is an important distinction and we must keep it in mind. The way to beat Chump is to get more new voters registered and make sure they know whom to vote for. In most states where Democrats have been actively getting out the vote, we'll see large increases in participation next year.

Since 2016 Chump has LOST much of his support. The Dems must pick up every vote we can to keep the Blue Wave going next year.

[LAS14]

94. Excellent point! You give me hope! nt

[Chakaconcarne]

31. 15% of that are Russians....

Maybe not even real people...

[AtheistCrusader]

34. Our nominee has to draw MORE votes than Hillary could, in certain specific states.

While holding on to the ones Hillary won.

So yeah, I'm terrified.

[Moral Compass]

35. It does terrify me...

[tclambert]

38. No matter how many flag pins they wear, Republicans are NOT patriots.

They do not like the American people and they do not respect the Constitution. They chose to side with Trump and Putin over the United States.

[bdamomma]

76. Repigs have

shown their disdain for the American people for many years. They hate what this country stands for, also for the Constitution.

They will go down.

[AlexSFCA]

40. they were always there

the difference is that now they are not ashamed to reveal their deplorable views. At least we know who they are.
We have a die hard trumpist as work and he is one of the best employees. I work closely with him. I would never wanna hang out with him outside of work. I am saying that it is not as scary as it seems when you actually get to know some of those people. I’d say only half of that 40% are truly deplorable to a point that it poisons their lives (family, social, work, etc.). What makes me feel better is that lots of those folks voted for Obama. Some did twice.

[hibbing]

41. scheming how best to screw the rest of us..

More like how to vote against their own self-interests and screw themselves in the process along with all but the ruling class.


Peace

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

44. Those people weren't created when you-know-who took office.

They've been here all along. How we either get them to change or crawl back under their rock is the issue. I agree, most won't change. Remember, a certain segment of the population ain't very bright. But making discrimination, prejudice and hate go away is a task only achieved through education. Of course that won't be in the home but anywhere taxpayer money is used, certain things ought to be taught, modeled, and discussed.

[BigmanPigman]

47. Not terrified but ANGRY AS HELL!

They piss me off to the Nth degree. I am disgusted with them for being so stupid, ignorant, hateful, and Un-American.

[bronxiteforever]

56. +1000

[LiberalLovinLug]

49. If Democrats ever attain full control of the government....

Including 60 seats in the Senate, they should say "screw bipartisanship" and first thing, rubber stamp all the 200+ bills that Democrats have already put into the inbox for the Senate. Raising the minimum wage, and enacting stricter gun background checks, dreamer legislation, to name a few that would be done quickly.

That would only be the beginning. Create a new "fairness act" requiring any network or radio station be held accountable for propagating lies. That or be forced to not use the word "news" for their network. And that also would include large social media platforms that distribute political ads like FaceBook. And that radio daytime political talk should be balanced.

Then go after gerrymandering all across the country. Make it a federal oversight.

Make federal elections.....actually have federal oversight. Paper ballots unless it can be proven that a machine cannot be hacked, and that there are paper trails.

Start to form the initial stages of transforming the medical system into a single payer funded system.

I'd go further even. Pass new anti-Citizen's United legislation. And make federal elections publicly funded. And require networks to provide for free equal time for both parties.

And then appoint two more supreme court judges. Nothing in the constitution saying you can't.



Oh....some will say, That's too much too soon. Bullshit. I'm sorry to admit Repubilcans are way ahead of us in this tactic. You KNOW Repubicans will oppose anything, even the mildest gun restrictions for instance. So do what they do to us, overwhelm them with legislation. And real change.

Would there be a chance the MSM will be frothing in their talking head mouths every day? Pundits like Clapper going 180 for instance? Yes. But the plan would be to be able to introduce Americans to the possibilities. To also show that they are not the "do nothing Democrats". Love what they do or not.

Personaly I think it would galvanize our side. It would garner more voters for us because they'd see us do more than incremental advancements, that promply get reversed at the next Republican administration. Such drastic changes would be difficult to overturn quickly, especially when many have gotten a taste of the pro-people bills that they were just starting to take advantage of. Dare them to take it away.

And maybe a new Republican admin would be able to reverse some, but the trick is to pass so much that even if we eventually lose some, we will come out ahead.

As one small example to make my point; putting aside my disappointment in Obama for not fighting hard for the public option, the ACA and the debate on health care, exposed the ugliness of the "pre-existing condition" excuse policy. Now, its tough sledding for Republicans to pass bills that allow insurance companies to once again use that weapon against coverage for their clients. By adding that requirement to the ACA, and also children being able to use their parents insurance longer, is forcing the GOP to relent now on those issues.

In the same way, many advancements like these would only be appreciated AFTER they existed. And even if only some survived, it would be worth it. So go full def con 5 if they ever hold all 3 branches.

But I don't hold out much hope they will follow that suggestion. They are too used to the cap-in-hand method. And that they will self edit to make sure as not to offend all the left over deplorables that wouldn't vote for them even if it were between American Democrats vs. Russian mobsters.

[ancianita]

84. Great! Yet nothing can get done on the list until the a)larger SCOTUS b)rescinds Citizens United.

Increasing SCOTUS to overturn CU will remove the present SCOTUS' 5-man crew's NEXT step, which would have been to give corporations the right to vote, since voting has been ruled a form of speech.

Overturn CU, and THEN no corporate lobbying or campaigning as "speech" can disrupt or corrupt the rest of your great to-do list. Bad laws then won't take so long to reverse, and just laws will better spend our tax dollars.

Overturn CU, and laws will get passed in the interests of humans, passed on the merits, not passed to serve the corporate welfare class. At the same time, toughter laws will pass to both monitor and enforce corporate compliance with penalties that record the legal "fault," -- actual regulations laws from Congress, and not rescindable policies from cabinet departments.

No more "free market corporate capture of government" or anything else.

Full DEF CON, indeed!

A great post, LLL.

I highly recommend you make your comment into an OP on GD. Looking forward is such a good thing for Dems and the country by January. Especially since proponents of feudalism just put us through so much.

[LiberalLovinLug]

95. thanks ancianita!

I did post it as an OP now.

[Botany]

50. This is what happens when you get rid of the...

... the Fairness Doctrine. A nation of morons.

Btw we will see a drop of about 15% in Trump's support but we have a 25% of hardcore dumb fucks.

[ananda]

51. I don't believe it's that high.

I think it has to do with polling bias.

[DFW]

54. Keep in mind--these 40% (of voters, not Americans) will vote R whether it's Jesus or Satan or Trump

This what you get when you have a generation that has watched nothing but Fox Noise and no one told them they were hearing lies.

[Liberalhammer]

55. Trump supporters

Are mainly old white and Male and dying off

While women and minorities grow as well as tolerance of others and a strong dislike of boomer and genX conservativism

[Amimnoch]

59. Courses in critical thinking need to be universal and a required part of grade school.

Of all the courses I took during my university years, NONE have been more valuable in life than what I learned in the critical thinking courses I took. How to question and grade sources of information. Especially questioning the validity of information I receive in which i have a bias and vested interest to believe. How to take my own beliefs and enculturation out of my own opinions and actions as it applies to others. How to drill down to any bias of the author or presenter of information I receive.

Even while I was taking those courses I was questioning why those courses weren’t a standard part of every high or middle school curriculum.

[Hulk]

60. It is terrifying....

...and if/when Democrats gain control of the federal and state governments, we need to hold their feet to the fire to assure that are making smart decisions on behalf of the country. Both parties have a dark past...but one party has an opportunity to set itself aside as the party of the people. The gop is garbage...and will only change once they see the Democratic Party making constructive progress and winning the hearts and minds of the voting public.

Fuck that 40%. They are lost. They just need to die off, because you can't reason with an idiot; and that's what they are if they still support this piece of shit in the White House after 3+ years of daily proof.

[walkingman]

63. We can only hope they have a "Come to Jesus Moment" and reject this vile POS.

[Blanks92]

64. We need to have patience

and allow our educational indoctrination to bear fruit.

[spanone]

66. It haunts me.

[VOX]

67. MAGAts fear education, except home-schooling. They believe "government schools" are demonic.

They further believe those “government schools” turn children liberal, and learning science turns children away from their god.

As for higher education, MAGAts trash that as “communist indoctrination.”

Difficult to enlighten a cult, when it perceives most everything outside of it to be a product of Satan, or communist, etc.

They are completely delusional— look at how they regard Trump as heaven-sent to “own the libs.” At some point, just “owning” won’t be enough. “Getting rid of libs” will be next on their list.

I’m being deadly serious here.

[Polybius]

70. Sadly, it's a little higher even

FiveThirtyEight has his average at 41.8%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

RCP has the average higher, at 44.1%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html?utm_campaign=ora_player&utm_medium=ora-video-widget&utm_source=polls

[Thomas Hurt]

77. shouldn't be, we have moving in this direction since the Reagan Admin.

[rufus dog]

80. and a HUGE piece of that 40% could be easily peeled off

We have a huge problem with white male voters and continue to fall into the trap

Two big threads going on right now, this one and the one below.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212771088#post67


I have to do this once a quarter, the hide last quarter, insinuating the Donald got down on his knees for Putin. That was hidden and slammed for being anti gay.

REALLY

So people want to point out any perceived slight and slam the shit out of supporters for not being politically correct. That is FUCKING LAUGHABLE.

We have two paths, toughen the fuck up and don't condemn any perceived slight and getting our asses constantly kicked, or leaving some of us to have to go to war with these other assholes that are truly the enemy.

FFS it isn't rocket science.

The Snowflake label falls away when we start calling them out, and some of you might be offended by the tough language, but we will start winning big.

[DeminPennswoods]

82. It's not actually 40%, it's more like 25-30%

"Approval" always has two components, somewhat and strongly. The "strongly approve" make up that portion that would follow Trump over a cliff and that's only about 1 in 3 or 1 in 4.

[ElementaryPenguin]

85. Thank you, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh!!

You've destroyed this country!!

[LAS14]

91. You are so right! I think about this all the time. We're sunk if we don't....

... teach the next generations critical thinking and moral norms. Unfortunately, for the latter, how do you teach norms if they are not assumed by the president and congress? Critical thinking, being a little more objective, may have a chance.

[sandensea]

93. Racism is a powerful drug

GOPee creatures have learned that providing the afflicted their fix, is the best and quickest way to win them over for good.