Trump honors Neo Nazi Pastor, who said Jews are doomed to hell, at the Hanukkah event.

[dewsgirl]

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

1. WTF.

Let those words sink in.

Trump honors non-Jewish neo-nazi pastor who said Jews are doomed to hell at Hanukah event.

I think I want to cry.

[jberryhill]

3. Who is this pastor?

[CaptYossarian]

36. Well, he is dumb as f**k. Why wouldn't he say something this bad

in front of Ivanka, Jared, and whatever offspring (his grandchildren) they have?

He's a damn slug.

[jberryhill]

2. It might be helpful to identify the pastor, so that others can confirm this information

Do you know this Twitter user?

[TEB]

4. Robert Jeffress

[jberryhill]

7. Hanukkah is not until December 22 this year

The White House is holding Hanukkah early this year?

Jeffress is an evangelical nitwit, but I'm not aware that he is a neo-nazi. Simply because he said Jews will go to Hell hardly qualifies, since the basic idea of much of Christianity generally is that everyone who is not a Christian will go to Hell - Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Atheists, etc..

It is a basic and unsurprising belief of many Christians that a small handful of Jews will be eligible for afterlife benefits in the course of the Apocalypse, but that, in general, they are as screwed as any other non-Christian group.

[TEB]

10. I was just identifying him for you

[jberryhill]

11. Yes. It is news to me that he is a "neo nazi"

So, I was just reacting to that. I wouldn't know what the guy looks like, so thanks.

[OilemFirchen]

15. Yes, it was a "Hanukkah Reception". Yes it was today - 11 days before the start of Chanukah.

And yes, Jeffress was in attendance. Here's another photo from the WH "Hanukkah Reception" twitter. Mr. Jeffress has his back turned to the President:

Link to tweet

Jeffress may or may not be a Nazi, but why was an evangelical Christian minister invited to this event?

[jberryhill]

30. Bizarre. Why more than a week early?

[hatrack]

37. Golf, Florida, Merde-A-Lago, Vacation

.

[Tanuki]

53. I think it was actually the signing of the executive order on anti-semitism

and not a Hanukkah celebration.

[dawg day]

55. I will bet you it's very much connected with Trump's almost incomprehensible executive order-

designating Judaism as a "nationality". It's all got to do with the evangelical weird obsession with Israel.

In Trump's wormholed brain, "Jews" are only important because evangelicals want Israel to exist (so that when the apocalypse comes, they can all be consigned to hell, but Israel as a state is apparently necessary for the apocalypse to happen?).

Judaism is in his mind only about Israel-- notice how he told American Jews who are AMERICAN in nationality, no matter what he says, that "your prime minister' deserves their support.

And it's not even really about Israel! It's about this weird evangelical apocalyptic obsession with Israel. So to him it must make some kind of sense that Judaism is about weird apocalyptic evangelicalism, and Hanukkah has to have an evangelical "everyone else goes to hell" minister.

[dawg day]

51. Umm... to single out Jews for "hell"

Well, it's infuriating that he'd say everyone who isn't Christian will go to hell. Did he single out Jews? That is quite troubling, as it goes back to the Middle Ages as an excuse to kill Jews.

I don't understand why he would be invited to a Hanukkah event even if all he was doing was as you say, condemning 90% of the world to hell, which is, I'm sure most of us would agree, bad enough.

[Chellee]

63. Yeah, the White House schedule says Hanukkah reception today.

To be fair, they apparently hosted a Christmas reception on the 9th, so equal opportunity date weirdness. Why invite a Christian to the event? Trump's an idiot, Jeffress says nice things about him, and (I think) all religions are equally incomprehensible to Trump.

Also, while the Daily Stormer approves of Jeffress, I can't find any evidence that he openly approves of them.

[dewsgirl]

13. I have followed him for three years, he is legit.

The twitter user, Pace Lattin.

[Girard442]

19. As legit as Jerry Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham.

On edit: Look up Monroe Dodd sometime. He was the president of the Southern Baptist Convention in the 1930's. He traveled to prewar Nazi Germany and reported how splendid it was there. In my opinion, he and Jeffress share 99%+ DNA.

[dewsgirl]

20. Pace Lattin? I was referring to the Twitter user, of course i

haven't been following a neo Nazi Pastor.

[Girard442]

21. Ooops, sorry.

[dewsgirl]

22. That's ok, for a second I was confused.

[greatauntoftriplets]

5. Who in hell invites a neo-nazi to a Hanukkah event?

Did rabbis all decline?

[sheshe2]

14. Be best!

In that pic we also have Mellie, an illegal alien that used chained migration to bring her parents here when hubby was locking up brown children. I think that is Kraft next to her, The Patriots owner involved in illegal sex sting along with "I kept my underwear on", Dershowitz. Oh then there is Jarrod. MR. 666 Fifth Ave that he did because of major financial problems. Deals with China and Saudi reek.

[greatauntoftriplets]

17. Ah, so that's who that person was.

He looked familiar, but all Trumpies seem to have the same asshole look. At least there are two actual Jewish people there, though. You'd think that Miller would be front and center, but he's probably off at his Bruderbund meeting or something.

[sheshe2]

47. Hey.

Never mind the assholes.

How are you?

[greatauntoftriplets]

48. The assholes can all piss off.

I'm coming along now. Went to the rehab place yesterday. It seems very nice, though I haven't seen much yet since I'm still in isolation. The room is very nice and I don't have a roommate. It overlooks a grassy courtyard with walking paths and a gazebo. They'll even do my laundry.

Thanks for asking.

[sheshe2]

49. Sounds okay.

Hey. They do your laundry!!!!

Kidding aside, get better soon. Glad you have some beauty to look at. A Gazebo, courtyard and grass. I have snow and ice.

Get well soon my dear.

[greatauntoftriplets]

54. My sister will be happy, because otherwise she'd have to take it home.

There was a bit of snow overnight, but the sun made it go away.

The food's pretty good, too. The staff seems surprised that the infections haven't made me feel sick, but that's good.

Thanks, sheshe, for the good wishes.

[sheshe2]

56. Love ya back, gaof.

[2naSalit]

6. They hate us for our freedom...nt

[Thomas Hurt]

8. If a protestant pastor says they are going to hell that only makes him...

at best a protestant pastor, at worst a evangelical protestant or fundamentalist.

Many Christians think those not of their flavor are going to hell.

[jberryhill]

9. Yeah, that "not going to Hell" thing is pretty much the point of being Christian

[Girard442]

23. Trump himself is going to Hell if he wasn't born again, according to those guys.

I don't know if they still claim he's born again or if he's just one of those sinners God uses.

[Thomas Hurt]

26. to an evangelical being born again just means you are part of the gang...

toe the line, spread their word, lie, cheat, manipulate for christofascism and you are good with them.

You challenge them, disagree with them you are out.

[Girard442]

32. Sadly, a lot of them act like Jesus is just Santa Claus for older kids.

Sadly, because even if you don't buy into the theism, Jesus had some really good ideas.

[jberryhill]

35. The basic problem...

...is that “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is not a good rule to teach masochists.

[AJT]

31. Yep.

John 11 25 and 26
25] Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
[26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.

[MosheFeingold]

16. Really

I mean, it's a basic tenant of Islam and Nazarenes that us Jewish people (and anyone not in their club) are doomed to hell. That's why Nazarenes seek converts.

This is no biggie to me.

I think most religions (excepting Judaism) think you have to worship as they worship or you are in big trouble.

[yellowdogintexas]

34. Nazarenes are a Wesleyan Holiness denomination

Founded by two Methodist Episcopal ministers

[MosheFeingold]

46. No

Nazarene is the word for all followers of a person from Nazareth who some call Christ.

He is not called that, nor the religion, by observant Jews.

The literal Hebrew translation of the religion is “Nazarene”. Go use google translate and then reverse it.

[dawg day]

58. I don't think that very large group of Hindus and Buddhists think that.

And I don't think many non-fundamentalist Christians believe that either. It's certainly not the belief of the Presbyterian or Episcopal churches I've been in, or the Quakers.

Fundies have done a very good job of getting us to associate the designation "Christian" to mean only them. But they are not the only strain of Christian. Most Catholics aren't fundamentalists, and that's a very large group of Christians.

[whathehell]

29. Most Christians do not preach or believe that nonsense .

Certainly not Catholics or Mainstream Protestants, who do, by the way, comprise the vast majority of Christians.

[jberryhill]

33. I don't believe that is correct

According to the Pew Research Center, mainline churches could claim 14.7 percent of all US adults compared to 25.4 percent who belonged to evangelical churches in 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainline_Protestant#Contrast_with_other_Protestant_denominations

I’d wager by now, the ratio is larger.

Certainly Martin Luther was a raging anti-Semite.

As for the Catholic angle, it’s not as if Catholics are noted for their favorable treatment of Jews.

[dawg day]

59. But Catholics are Christians who are not fundamentalists, so add that in.

Catholicism has been around for a really long time, and the church's treatment of the Jews is probably a lot better now. Most groups post 1970 are a lot more progressive and tolerant than before.

[jberryhill]

60. I get that

But one also notes that while the “mainstream” of Protestantism is no longer “Mainline Protestant” - and of course it is the evangelicals who would say “they changed and we didn’t” and be relatively accurate - the bulk of what remains “Protestant” no longer recognizes Roman Catholics as “Christian”.

Bizarrely, although maybe not in view of current events, evangelicals tend to be much cozier with various Orthodox denominations, which kind of explains a few things.

IMHO, the title “Christian” has been rendered by these people as one not worth claiming, regardless of their relative number.

[Polybius]

50. I went to Catholic school

They didn't preach hatred against any specific group, but they did say that no one gets into Heaven unless they accept Jesus Christ as God.

[whathehell]

61. I went to Catholic school as well

and they never said any such thing. They said no person of any religion who lives a good life goes to Hell

[Polybius]

62. Interesting

I guess it all depends on the person teaching.

[jberryhill]

64. Or the time frame

My mother was raised Catholic as was my wife, and they were quite certainly taught that non-Catholics go to Hell.

Now, sure, I understand that God recently changed opinions on that subject, but it certainly has been that way for a long time.

[whathehell]

65. I'm curious..

about where your school was located and how many years you attended.

[Polybius]

66. In NYC

I attended two Catholic schools, from grades 1 to 8.

[Iliyah]

12. Shithole does not have the Jewish votes . .

Nor the Latinos, nor the Blacks, and is losing a great deal of Asian voters. Young college White students and middle class Whites that live in the suburbs, especially the women.

[UTUSN]

18. There is no bottom.

[smirkymonkey]

24. What fresh hell is this?

I feel like I am losing my mind.

[dewsgirl]

25. Every hour I ask, what the fresh hell? It's mind blowing.

[smirkymonkey]

27. I think they do this purposely. To wear us down and get us to the point where

we are outraged fatigued. I'm sure of it. We can't let them win.

[dewsgirl]

39. Makes sense.

[bdamomma]

45. The Shock Doctrine

Russia can fuck off.

[appalachiablue]

42. +5 !!!!!!

[appalachiablue]

69. Exactly, love it!! Will Ferell is the best.

[Initech]

28. It's like he tries to come up with the wrong answer to everything!

[bucolic_frolic]

38. Sometimes I think just plain arrogance is the missing interpretation

Trump just takes anything he encounters - anything - and pisses on it, changes it, tramples it, abuses it. He doesn't even think a moment about it, perhaps doesn't even realize he's doing it. He considers himself superior to all things, and it is therefore his right in his own mind, to destroy it, and preferably with as much effrontery as humanly possible.

Does it fit? Sort of?

[spedtr90]

40. Jeffress was also with Trump at the opening of our embassy in Jerusalem

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/evangelica-pastor-jews-embassy-jerusalem_n_5af944fde4b0e57cd9faf4ff


Pastor ( Jeffress) Who Thinks Jews Are Going To Hell Speaks At Jerusalem Embassy Opening
Another evangelical Christian leader ( Hagee) speaking at the opening of the new American embassy once said Hitler was a “hunter” helping Jews return to Israel.

[Richard D]

41. Speaking as a Jew . . .

Anywhere morons like that and the current administration will not be will be heaven.

[bdamomma]

43. SMH

this POS has got to go. What POS he is.

[struggle4progress]

44. "Let me introduce Our Messiah, Trump"

[StarryNite]

52. He's a sick little phuck!

"On 29 September 2019, the pastor spoke out again to oppose the Democrat effort to impeach President Donald Trump. He said:

“I do want to make this prediction this morning: If the Democrats are successful in removing the president from office, I’m afraid it will cause a Civil War-like fracture in this nation.”

[link:https://famouspeopletoday.com/robert-jeffress/|

[StevieM]

57. Amazing, but not unexpected, that this is not all over the news.

In any other administration this story would dominate the headlines for days.

In this administration it is just another Wednesday.

[Gothmog]

67. This is so wrong on so many levels

[ck4829]

68. Disgusting