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BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Correcting the record - "strong-arming".
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Bringing up Michael Cohen - who says that Drumpf never "says" exactly what he really means and Cohen is now sitting in prison.
"'Individual 1' is not in prison because 'Individual 1' and could not be indicted because of Justice Department policy" :rolf:
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Whining about Sondland.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)NJCher
(35,647 posts)He is a cue to laugh.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)for the cameras.
I heard Hakeem Jefferies humilate Jordan with just the facts after Jordan talked about the "perfect" call between Trump and Zelensky.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)dchill
(38,464 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)calling for impeachment
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)and just lied about Drumpf "meeting with" Zelensky - when he never had any "formal WH meeting" with him that had been promised.
bearsfootball516
(6,376 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)of the GOP.
Mossfern
(2,466 posts)but I've taken to turning off the sound on my computer when the Republicans speak. It does help my blood pressure a bit.
Marthe48
(16,927 posts)I can't listen to them. I have trouble sitting through diatribes too.
H2O Man
(73,525 posts)Recommended.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Whining about the Trump University mention!!
Marthe48
(16,927 posts)Although, if it is the repuke side, it is all b-o-t-b
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)One side of the GOP demands "criminal charges" and his side says that nothing "criminal" can happen to a President while he is in office.
bluestarone
(16,894 posts)End of story! HATE these fuckers!
bearsfootball516
(6,376 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)This is all their next to last stand.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)I would assume all the educated,professional people are on one side.
Seriously team D looks like a law school convention and team R looks like a gang from the men's locker room.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #24)
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DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)you probably mean...
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Let's read Article II of the U.S. Constitution into the record today. It outlines what the President can do. It also implies what s/he CANNOT do, likely because those rights have already been granted to Congress in Article I or the Supreme Court in Article III. It is spelled out. In black and white.
Any action by the President that falls outside of Article II, or infringes upon Article I or III, is an ABUSE of POWER. Period. Full stop. It is not rocket science.
You know what ELSE Article I does? It outlaws the Congress ceding its Article I power to any other entity. Not the President. Not the Supreme Court. Not ANYONE or ANYTHING.
These articles of impeachment are clean. They are perfect (thanks to the poster who pointed that out earlier). The Trumpers on that committee needs to just accept it, vote it out and move on already...
blaze
(6,353 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)But not being a lawyer,I don't understand it.It somehow gives them a full five minutes.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)I.e., it lets them extend the debate time from 5 minutes for each side (total 10 minutes) to whatever amount of time they need to finish the debate.
blaze
(6,353 posts)For anyone looking for clarification, a quick search found this (and many others)
https://www.countable.us/articles/287-markup-marathon-does-strike-word-mean
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Again emphasizing that CONGRESS authorized the funds and the money WAS certified and it was only the President who withheld the money without cause.
Mersky
(4,980 posts)So elaborately, so continually. The republicons are willingly committing fraud against the American people, and helping the pResident coverup his crimes.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)time to him as well.
Reading info about "impeachment".
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)THANK you, Chairman Nadler!
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)(amendment to strike the first Article of Impeachment)
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)We have heard enough debate.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)And now Gaetz is foaming at the mouth again.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Attempting to insert the bullshit CT of "Burisma and Hunter Biden" into the impeachment article.
Now he's smearing Hunter.
How can he get up there and say this while Ivanka, JR, and Eric as well as Jared are right there in West Wing.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Hes an unmitigated asshole.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)nt
nini
(16,672 posts)BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT TRUMP DID.
GAWD... they make me sick.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)don't see the Drumpf children. And Democrats could certain go there but obviously the GOP has lost this.
hibbing
(10,095 posts)Regardless of what happens with impeachment, if Biden gets the nomination, this is all we will hear.
WTH now Hunter Biden and white substance? What a colossal asshole Gaetz is.
Peace
IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)what the fuck about don fucken junior and siblings?
why are they tearing Hunter Biden a new ________
nini
(16,672 posts)LOLOLOLOLOL
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Hunter Biden is/was a partner in a consulting firm hired by Burisma. He was put on the board of directors not because of his energy prowess, but because of his legal background.
As an attorney, I'm sure Matt Gaetz knows this. He just hopes the rest of us don't.
Par for the course with this bunch, though...
padah513
(2,500 posts)IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)pot calling the kettle black
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)hibbing
(10,095 posts)Damn, good, throw that crap right back into Gaetz' smug face!
Peace
spooky3
(34,425 posts)with the TV muted but every time I have looked up, except one, the Repubs were yammering on.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)add to the debate. The "rules" are technically "5 minutes per side" but they use a parliamentary tactic to extend past the 10 minute max.
spooky3
(34,425 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)because they are stalling the process and gaming the rules.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)Right after Gaetz spewed on and on and on about Hunter Biden.
A literal laugh out loud moment.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)And he's asking the question that Jayapal asked - "Is it proper for a President to invite a foreign country to interfere in our election?". (pause and silence)
Gave them an opportunity to respond and they couldn't and wouldn't respond!!
Mersky
(4,980 posts)Audible snickering in the room to his demurring calling out of gaetz's audacious hypocrisy.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)and "criminal codes" again.
Johnson broke in telling Sensenbrenner would he answer his question about would they accept that a President can invite a foreign country to interfere".
Sensenfuck is now smearing Biden.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)UTUSN
(70,671 posts)1) We're in the "amendments" phase, right? So, is there a limit on Amendments, do they need to be filed ahead of time by a fixed time limit? Seems like after voting down an amendment they edit a word, phrase, or lines on the same amendment and it all starts over again?
2) What does "strike the last word" mean?
3) Where are we in getting to the final Final vote?
****Tia. I seldom ask to be handed catch-up on a platter without doing some due diligence.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)1.) During the markups - they usually have rules for the committee and I don't think there are any limits to amendments and they can submit on the fly
2.) "strike the last word" was described earlier in the thread here (allows extension beyond the 10 total minutes of debate on an amendment) -
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212774391#post32
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212774391#post35
3.) Once they are done the votes for the 2 Articles of impeachment, then it will go to the House floor for debate and final vote (not sure of that schedule). However - it may take some time for this markup process though if they decide to try to amend the 2nd Article.
getagrip_already
(14,689 posts)They can't debate more than one amendment at a time, and nadler kicked off the discussion with an amendment (expanding the J. to John in the articles).
That essentially locked up the debate to discussing the open proposed amendment. So they say something innocuous like make a motion "to strike the last word" of the existing open amendment, which can then be debated.
At some point, nadler will move to end debate on the amendment, take a vote, and then move to end amendments and move to a vote on the existing articles (as not amended).
Parliamentary, but still allows debate without allowing changes or taking messy votes on every whacko idea.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)GOP "admitting they DID target the Bidens!"
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)"I knew Barbara Jordan" and the other side was quoting her but let me quote what else she said regarding impeachment"....
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)bluestarone
(16,894 posts)That's their plan i see!
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)"that's politics".
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)Good gravy, these republican are so desperate they'll spew any old bullshit.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)continue.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Emphasizing that 12 of the witnesses were ALL Drumpf appointees!
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)they are horrid and so are the repukes
IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)just paid for don cretin jr. to go to mongolia to kill an endangered sheep for it's horns.
we paid for his fucken trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Whine whine whine Mueller whine.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)to claim that Democrats are "projecting".
Now droning on and on.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Am typing too fast. ("r" and "d" are right near each other)
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Y'all GOPers have been lying, cheating bastards for years. And for the current matters at hand, y'all havent changed one bit.
So, keep talking, gohmerts of the committee, keep robbing your constituents' possibilities of a decent future.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Doing the bidding of Trumps re-election.
IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)there are hundred of bills sitting on mcconnel's desk that he hasn't touched (per Nancy Pelosi)
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Smear smear Biden Biden.
IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)becomes a giant boomerang.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Fuck being polite...just nail Gaetz ass already. He clearly has an axe to grind with Hunter Biden.
Man...put Hunter and Matt in a room alone and I'll BET he'd whoop Matt's ass...
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)over everrryyy onnneee issss aggggainnsssttt thhhiiisssss Pressssssiddeennnnntttttttt *sniff* *waaaaaaaa***
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)Mossfern
(2,466 posts)they have nothing to do with the issue.
Mersky
(4,980 posts)Like Biden. Doesn't matter one bit to them that tRump was plying a foreign country to interfere in the 2020 election.
Burisma is their new Benghazi, an exotic word that starts with 'B' and probably resonates in focus groups like a shiny object fascinates chickens. The actual facts dont matter, is just a verbal vehicle for lobbing accusations and to Gish gallop whataboutisms.
In many ways, they are continuing the very crime they are supposed to protect the country from, because they are okay with cheating the electorate if it benefits them.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)80% are "lying on Mitch McConnell's desk awaiting action. Persuade Mitch McConnell to do his job and bring to floor".
avebury
(10,952 posts)would be if he was added: and, as you should be aware, you voted in favor of _____ of the bills.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)meaning members of both parties voted for them - so he got that out there.
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)I'm giving the kitchen a serious pre-Christmas cleaning -I do have the remote close by to mute most of the ReTHUGs
BumRushDaShow
(128,728 posts)so you could have muted much of it!