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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:04 PM Dec 2019

I guess I'm about to post something "not nice". I have never been a fan of the phony

"collegiality" that we hear referenced again and again during these hearings---"my respected colleagues across the aisle"; "the gentleman from Georgia"

That "gentleman" and those "colleagues" have just spent hours lying through their teeth in order to protect the racist incompetent pathological liar who has spent every day of the past three years attacking our democracy with a wrecking ball. He exists and persists only with their support and their participation in his crimes. It matters not whether they are truly evil or "merely" ignorant. They are all complicit.

I do not respect them. I do not like them. I do not see that changing---ever.

I do not expect out Reps to refer to Mr. Collins as "Bubba" or Mr. Gohmert as "the twit from Texas", but the " my colleague" references really clang, given the gleeful depravity in which the Republicans are engaging for the purpose of shielding Trump from the fate he richly deserves.

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I guess I'm about to post something "not nice". I have never been a fan of the phony (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2019 OP
In over 30 years as a union representative, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1
she must have been a rock dweller Dec 2019 #2
She is, and I am. For over 40 years. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #5
At some point, though, I think Dems have to get more blunt about what we're dealing with, which... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #3
I agree. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #6
I don't think any of the statements I made are rude. Maybe the one about them... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #9
I was not referring to your post. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #13
Hold my beer world wide wally Dec 2019 #16
Thank you StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #19
I remember and recommended that post. eom guillaumeb Dec 2019 #7
Here's the thing: we're in an emergency situation. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #11
It is, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #14
But Putin DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #18
Keeping the hostility tamped down is necessary, Hortensis Dec 2019 #4
It's necessary Arthur_Frain Dec 2019 #8
even the brits during parliment respect one another as they are trashing them... samnsara Dec 2019 #10
How they do it in South Korea: panader0 Dec 2019 #12
You must admit, the Republicans are distinguishing themselves Generic Brad Dec 2019 #15
The repugs have hung themselves. warmfeet Dec 2019 #17

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
1. In over 30 years as a union representative,
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:06 PM
Dec 2019

I was always polite. I saw it as a reflection on me, and the people that I represented.

As to my private thoughts about some of the people I dealt with, I shared them with my wife.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. At some point, though, I think Dems have to get more blunt about what we're dealing with, which...
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:17 PM
Dec 2019

...is what I was getting at in this particular post: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212757711#post27.

They lie constantly. They engage in race-based voter suppression and gerrymandering. They collude with foreign governments. They have more rubles than scruples. They care more about getting the backing of the NRA than about saving lives. Republican is synonymous with hypocrite. They are actively harming people and planet. They foment and exploit racism, sexism and just a general ignorance. They're truly horrible people.

I don't see how we can fight back against the "both sides"/false equivalency bullshit until Democrats start taking every opportunity to publicly make clear that there's virtually no greater threat on this planet than the Republican Party of the United States.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
6. I agree.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:23 PM
Dec 2019

But in the venue of the Committee, to engage in the same behavior is pointless. One cannot both criticize the rude behavior and engage in it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. I don't think any of the statements I made are rude. Maybe the one about them...
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:26 PM
Dec 2019

...being horrible people, though that's pretty well supported by all of the factual statements that preceded that comment.

Fine, don't say those sorts of things on the floor of Congress. But they need to be said. By Democrats. On the air. Every single day.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. Here's the thing: we're in an emergency situation.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:59 PM
Dec 2019

Corruption, lying and ignorance are epidemics, which are truly endangering us all.

What we're witnessing is a clear and present danger. No joke. This is madness run amok.

DENVERPOPS

(10,045 posts)
18. But Putin
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:11 PM
Dec 2019

is working night and day on rigging or throwing the Presidential Election in 2020.

And every last Republican Party Member and Republican Senator is helping Putin in any way they can.

THERE IS NO FEC, Mitch effectively neutered them by not appointing a new member to make a quorum, the FEC is DEAD IN THE WATER
They can't vote or decide on anything without a quorum......

Mitch also took care of the three agencies of the Fed. Gov't that were actively investigating election tampering BY DEFUNDING THEM....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Keeping the hostility tamped down is necessary,
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:20 PM
Dec 2019

and conventions that help that are for the best. As it is, those people are not in the least mislead into misunderstanding what's happening, and there is more no hypocrisy to it than there is to nodding distant acknowledgement of someone's presence.

Just don't listen if you can't take it as intended.

Arthur_Frain

(2,199 posts)
8. It's necessary
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:24 PM
Dec 2019

It keeps the actual discussion rolling along. The fact that we even see them violating the rules of order by interrupting, talking on, etc.

When that last wall of decorum crumbles, you will know that they have finally lost. But by that time, I doubt we’ll be talking.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
15. You must admit, the Republicans are distinguishing themselves
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:40 PM
Dec 2019

So, when they are referred to as "distinguished colleagues", consider that they have distinguished themselves as lying, traitorous pieces of shit.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
17. The repugs have hung themselves.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 09:45 PM
Dec 2019

They deserve every inch of drop, and the sickening snap of vertebrae at the bottom.

Fuck'em.

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