UK election: Conservatives have a majority of parliament but 43% of the vote

[Tiggeroshii]

That'll likely increase with their majority but it's doubtful that they will get 50% of the vote. Boy does that seem familiar!

[RandySF]

1. That's just how a multi-party election works.

What percentage are Brexit and Alliance at?

[Tiggeroshii]

2. The opposition so far has about 16 million votes and tories, brexit alli have about 14 million votes

democracy in action!

EIther way, in a PR system, you would not be able to have a majority without a majority of the votes, generally. British drawing of districts is even worse than American gerrymandering!

[RandySF]

3. So Tories + Brexit Party + Alliance + Ulster Unionist ?

[Tiggeroshii]

4. yea

[Tiggeroshii]

5. I've heard British redistricting is even worse than American redistricting.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/boundary-changes-tories-ruthless-gerrymandering

[thewhollytoast]

7. Put a tack in this.

Within 18 months the Scot's will fully embrace the EU, and thus Belfast will re-patriot with their family to the south.

Toast

[Doodley]

9. What do you mean by "opposition?" That's not how it works.

[Tiggeroshii]

10. The parties that made clear they will not support Tories or brexit

Are the opposition. That's exactly how this works: SNP, Libdems, Labour, etc. They are also the parties that united to take away the Tories majority in September. That is effectively "the opposition."

Regardless, 43% is far from a majority, and that 43% put Tories firmly in the majority, regardless of how the smaller parties did. That is a 8-10% discrepancy between the popular vote and the actual outcome. Reminds me of the WI legislature.

[Doodley]

12. A majority who voted in the Referendum supported Brexit. Do you want to

defend the will of the people or not?

19 Labour MPs voted in October to support Johnson's Brexit deal. You can't just group everyone but the Conservatives together and call them "the opposition." It doesn't work like that.

Labour's official position was to hold another referendum. It didn't like the result of the Brexit referendum so it was going to ask the people again, hoping to get another answer. Doesn't sound very democratic, does it?

43.6% is more than Theresa May got, more than David Cameron, more than Gordon Brown, Tony Blair. more than John Major, more than Thatcher's second and third election. It's a strong mandate.

[Tiggeroshii]

13. The opposition parties are those that were against brexit.

They were the ones that took the majority from the conservatives. They count as the opposition party. They also had more total votes than the conservatives and pro brexit parties had. The will of the people in this election did not reflect the seats in parliament. I understand this is not unusual in a British election, but it is the case.

[Doodley]

14. This was a general election. It wasn't only about Brexit. The will of the people

was Brexit in the referendum, so if you want to focus on Brexit, how can you say the will of the people wasn't reflected in the election result?

[Stallion]

6. Sounds Like Democratic Party Nominees From 1968-1988

I vote for the best Democrat who can win a national election

[Doodley]

8. It's the biggest share of the vote for any UK party at any general election since 1979.

[Tiggeroshii]

11. That's pretty bad.

It just means the share of seats rarely reflects the will of the voters. And I thought the EC was bad?