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Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:23 AM

Jerry Nadler's taken a lot of hits on DU for not being as smooth and crisp as Adam Schiff

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:37 PM - Edit history (1)

But over the past few days, he's proven he's just as much a badass.

The Democratic team is doing us proud!

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Reply Jerry Nadler's taken a lot of hits on DU for not being as smooth and crisp as Adam Schiff (Original post)
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP
pwb Dec 2019 #1
gordianot Dec 2019 #2
Cracklin Charlie Dec 2019 #19
gordianot Dec 2019 #26
Cracklin Charlie Dec 2019 #27
gordianot Dec 2019 #53
RockaFowler Dec 2019 #3
Hortensis Dec 2019 #4
Lars39 Dec 2019 #6
Hortensis Dec 2019 #8
safeinOhio Dec 2019 #13
NCjack Dec 2019 #18
CatWoman Dec 2019 #20
gopiscrap Dec 2019 #30
dalton99a Dec 2019 #34
saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #39
Bob Loblaw Dec 2019 #47
Aviation Pro Dec 2019 #21
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #59
pangaia Dec 2019 #41
Maeve Dec 2019 #5
George II Dec 2019 #24
saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #25
DFW Dec 2019 #36
saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #42
Bettie Dec 2019 #7
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #10
Bettie Dec 2019 #12
crickets Dec 2019 #28
chia Dec 2019 #58
flor-de-jasmim Dec 2019 #9
crickets Dec 2019 #29
malaise Dec 2019 #11
PCIntern Dec 2019 #14
malaise Dec 2019 #15
RVN VET71 Dec 2019 #16
McKim Dec 2019 #32
saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #37
marieo1 Dec 2019 #44
cwydro Dec 2019 #17
George II Dec 2019 #22
Mersky Dec 2019 #23
McKim Dec 2019 #31
Rene Dec 2019 #33
marieo1 Dec 2019 #35
BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #38
DFW Dec 2019 #40
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #45
DFW Dec 2019 #54
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #55
DFW Dec 2019 #57
Mike 03 Dec 2019 #43
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #46
Baked Potato Dec 2019 #48
KPN Dec 2019 #49
lunatica Dec 2019 #50
riversedge Dec 2019 #51
samnsara Dec 2019 #52
HAB911 Dec 2019 #56
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #60
Alwaysna Dec 2019 #61
wryter2000 Dec 2019 #62
flibbitygiblets Dec 2019 #63
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:33 AM

1. I like the guy.

Must have missed all those hits. I ignore a lot on here, that must be them.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:57 AM

2. It takes a lot of self control to listen to Republican denial and hypocrisy and not lose it.

Anyone who can show that much self control should be lauded. To merely be in the same room with Gohmert deserves a medal for self control.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:43 AM

19. Collins needs a punch.

And he’s so close by to the chairman.

Serious restraint, Nadler has.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:21 AM

26. Even laughing at them is a breach of House rules.

A few quick insults are in order.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:27 AM

27. Really?

Caused I breached the House rules 1000x last night!

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:43 PM

53. They need to drop the Gentlemen and Gentlewomen for "not so gentle assholes".

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:59 AM

3. He played their game last night

He let them get all of their whining out and then he sprung it on them.

Collins can sure dish it out but he can't take it.

And they say women are emotional!!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:05 AM

4. LA Times has a great picture of Nadler waiting out

Doug Collins' acting out Schiff-style. It won' tpost open, unfortunately, but my husband and I got a big kick out of it. We're CA transplants, and Collins, very sad to say, is our GA congressman.

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/a6082f9/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4573x3049+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fd4%2F80%2Fbf9e7940452eb6ecf8300b8d0f0c%2Fapphoto-trump-impeachment-2.JPG

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:16 AM

6. Collins has that Southern Baptist preacher face on

Sure to stoke Trump’s base.
Nadler has extreme patience.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:39 AM

8. It's my favorite picture ever of You're-Going-To-Hell-Collins,

as we refer to Pastor Collins, and Nadler is the very picture of someone wishing the Angel of Death would hurry up and take him.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

13. Jesus strikes again.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:42 AM

18. Collins' look (as typical of RW evangos) makes me think he is on the toilet,

determined to force out a turd with a diameter 2X that of his anus.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:44 AM

20. ....

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:46 AM

30. Love it

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:22 PM

34. A keeper.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:36 PM

39. Mr. Nadler is awesome.

He looks so "pale" in this screen shot.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:55 PM

47. He looks like one of those guys

who is trying to get people to send money to him so Jaysus will save their soul.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:50 AM

21. This is a meme waiting to happen

Here's one.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:50 PM

59. that is beautiful!

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:38 PM

41. WOUld be a good ad for any dem


"Here you have, on the left, a Democrat. On the right, a Republican."

Take your pick and vote.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:05 AM

5. He is not in the most robust of health

He's 71, and has suffered from obesity much of his life (he lost 100 since surgery in 2003, if I remember correctly). But he's a good man doing a difficult job.

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Response to Maeve (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:02 AM

24. We were classmates in High School, I don't remember him being as heavy as he was....

....years ago. But he's lost a lot judging by some of the videos we've seen of him the last week or so.

I don't know where he gets the energy, I'm only about 150 and I don't know if I could have kept the schedule he has this week.

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Response to Maeve (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

25. Thank you Maeve

I have not followed Representative Nadler's personal struggles with obesity. He is to be admired for standing up and getting the vote done.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:33 PM

36. Check out photos of him during the Clinton impeachment

He was pretty bloated. Jerry will be the first one to tell you how necessary the surgery was.

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Response to DFW (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:40 PM

42. May he rise above his physical limitations,

and enjoy a life without regrets.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:21 AM

7. I think he looks less effective

because the desperation level of the Republicans has ratcheted up and they are so far off the rails they can no longer even see them.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:51 AM

10. The Republicans on Judiciary are different than those on Intelligence

Less serious, more partisan, much more prone to showboating and hysterics. They're more difficult to manage. Nadler's dealing with a considerably more corrigible group than Schiff is, so he comes off as less effective.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:55 AM

12. That is true and they are also just ramping up the

hysteria in any case.

I can't imagine how stupid someone would have to be to watch them and say "YES! That's the behavior I love to see in my elected representatives!".

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:39 AM

28. You and Bettie both make a good point.

There's much less discipline among the Judiciary Repubs. Almost all of them turned up the angry rhetoric to 11. Yikes, I don't know how any of the Majority got through it without a mute button.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:47 PM

58. Interesting, thank you

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:45 AM

9. Definitely agree.

Sorry, Chairman Nadler. I admit to having had some doubts, but you have proven me wrong.

I listened to TOO MANY hours of the proceedings yesterday. I am proud of all of our Democratic representatives, who spoke with clarity, coherence and eloquence.

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Response to flor-de-jasmim (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:40 AM

29. Agreed! nt

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:53 AM

11. +1,000

I want no part of the divide and rule- go Dems!
By the way Swallwell also rocks!

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

14. I think Swallwell is the future

He is terrific.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:10 AM

15. WaterMan also likes him

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:32 AM

16. If there is a future

it will be led by Swalwell and people of his calibre.

But it's kind of a big "if".

Boris Johnson just won a landslide victory in the U.K., and it makes me wonder how much certainty any of us can have about Trump in 2020. Everyone here knows what a monster Trump is and I pray we're not alone, a choir singing to itself. But It looked, didn't it, like Johnson was going down? Like the good and wise and well informed and thoughtful voters of the U.K. would vote his sad and saggy are out of government? When push came to shove, they voted to keep him rather than to risk a change that might well have been the last chance to save the U.K. from coming apart at the seams.

So, yep, I'm feeling way out of sorts this morning and may be hitting my Guinness Stout before, during, and after lunch.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:53 AM

32. This Made Me Very Very Sad

I still have trouble believing that Brits voted themselves out of better public transportation, free university education, help for families caring for their elderly and all the goodies they were offered. Instead they chose to isolate on their island and enjoy the buffoon clown show. Johnson is right out of the British Vaudeville tradition!!!!!

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Response to McKim (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:33 PM

37. I share your "Sad".

Apparently, we are in the minority. More cowbell is in vogue.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:42 PM

44. Creeps be Gone forever!!

Oh, boy.............I couldn't believe it when I read Boris Johnson won!!! I thought he was out for good!! It makes me wonder if the same people that wanted our dingbat DJT in office helped Johnson win. We will never know the circumstances behind both of these idiots getting elected (maybe Russia). I just hope the sane people in the USA will get rid of all these creeps at least in the USA!! Go Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Pelosi, Swalwell and the rest will continue to fight for us!!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:34 AM

17. Agree.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:53 AM

22. Yes indeed he is! I was a little worried that he was slowing down.....

.....after one of the hearings of a month or so ago where he seemed a little flustered a couple of times.

He has been spectacular last week and this week. Yes, he's a badass, just ignoring most of the crap the republicans have been throwing at him Wednesday night and today.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:02 AM

23. I liked Nadler before the hearings, and I like him even more now.

He's pretty freakin' good at staying on tip through all the republicans' shenanigans. I like his serious thoughtfulness, as opposed to the repugs uniform insincerity and open betrayal of their oath.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:50 AM

31. He Has His Own Style

He has his own style, old school honest, integrity, grit and not tolerating BS. We have been way too influenced by advertising and looksism. I don’t care about personality or like-ability but for substance. Don’t get caught up with personality.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:19 PM

33. Yesss I love Rep Nadler

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:33 PM

35. Different Style

I like Jerry Nadler a lot. He is doing a great job. He just has a different style than Adam Schiff but is doing a great job!!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:35 PM

38. I heard much handwringing about Nadler

DU, yes - but more from the M$M. I thought he was masterful - especially his “surprise” gaveling last night. I thought the high profile Trump bootlickers were going to shit a brick.

Well done Congressman, well done.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:37 PM

40. I agree completely. But: any accusations of objectivity on my part are without foundation

I've known Jerry for years, so don't bother accusing me of having bias. I'll save you the trouble: I confess.

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Response to DFW (Reply #40)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:49 PM

45. Cool. Which one are you?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:16 PM

54. I'll give you a hint

I am not the editor of The Nation (Katrina is). I was never head of Planned Parenthood (Cecile was). And...I am definitely not Jerry.

so, by process of elimination.................

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Response to DFW (Reply #54)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:23 PM

55. Lol! Well if you put it that way ...

Got it! Cool pic!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:02 PM

57. There was a LOT of candlepower there that evening

I usually can never make these things, as I usually can't go running over to North America every time someone wants to celebrate something. But this one time, it was in Washington, and I WAS going to be in Washington that day. The weekly that Katrina edits, The Nation, is the country's oldest continually published political magazine, and she knows EVERYBODY. The Nation was founded right after Lincoln's assassination in 1865.

My brother drove. He, my wife and I got there early. Katrina greeted us at the door, and I figured, this being Washington, maybe a few other people I knew or recognized might show up. A few???? I turned out to be one of the token nobodies invited. Mostly, there were somebodies!

Here is a partial list I remember off the top of my head: E.J Dionne, Eleanor Clift, Dennis Kucinich, Raúl Grijalva, Elizabeth Warren, Jerry, Rev. William Barber, Cecile, Stephanie Schriock, John Nichols. Give me some time, and I might remember the rest. My coolest accomplishment that night was asking Rev. Barber if he had been approached to speak at the Democratic Convention the next year (2016). He said he had not. I asked him if he'd be willing, and he said he'd be honored. I contacted a friend who was DNC treasurer, and the next thing I knew, Barber was going to be speaking at the Convention!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:41 PM

43. Really appreciate this post.

Some of that criticism of Nadler rubbed me the wrong way. They all can't be Adam Schiff. But each of our Dems has certain gifts and strengths and they are all working around the clock and deserve our gratitude. They've accomplished an incredible amount in a short period of time. The immense stress has probably (hopefully not) taken a few years off of their lives.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #43)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:51 PM

46. I had to remind people a few times that there's much more to being a committee chairman than having

press conferences and presiding over high profile hearings. Schiff is outstanding but Nadler is also one of the best. That's why Pelosi put him there.

He got a bad rap, but the last few days, he's shown us why he's there.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:03 PM

48. I appreciate him, immensely

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:16 PM

49. Jerry Nadler's a good man. A great progressive. I'm happy with the job he's doing, including as

chair of the House Judicial Committee.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:29 PM

50. Critics who want to feel superior tend

to think everything is some sort of competition where people’s differences are seen as making them losers and/or winners in some game in which the critics are the arbitrators. Someone must always end up at the top and someone must always end up at the bottom of the game. Critics actually think they’re of such high caliber themselves that they can stand in judgement of people who are much better than they are.

It’s quite tiresome.

Unfortunately it’s an American pastime.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:33 PM

51. Not from me. Nadler knows his stuff and He is good.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:33 PM

52. i like him! I thought he did a great job. hes not steely cold like Adam but I sure..

...wouldnt want him cross with me.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:24 PM

56. A difference of style and appearance is not a deficit

He did a great job

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:52 PM

60. the whole team! ...

I couldn't sit there as they did, responding to disinformation and distraction, over and over, with facts. They did it for hours!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:09 PM

61. I give Jerry Nadler a great deal of respect. He sits between Nunes and Collins with a gavel

And hasn't popped either one on the noggin.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:50 PM

62. Good job

You could tell how frustrated the Republicans were, especially when he ended things suddenly last night. He ended their nonsense after giving them enough time to demonstrate what assholes they were being.

I wish all of them would lose their seats next year. I never want to see some of their faces or hear their voices ever again.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:02 PM

63. Trump hasn't even given Nadler a childish nickname

Sad-ler perhaps? Bad-ler? Stark raving Mad-ler?

100's of tweets in the past day alone, and no dumb nicknames? Maybe Dump's in a coma and has his ghost-tweeters on duty?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:11 AM

64. Both of them

Demonstrated enormous discipline and self control. I could not have tolerated the nonsense that the Republicans threw at him.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 11:56 AM

65. Stop bashing our great dem leaders!!

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