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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:56 AM Dec 2019

I love it that Nadler put off the committee vote until today.

It infuriated the Republicans on the committee, since they now have to show up again for the vote. It serves them right, for haranguing so bitterly during the mark-up session. They wasted everyone's time, since it was obvious that the Articles of Impeachment were going to be passed in the committee. But, they had to showboat and take advantage of parliamentary rules to boast and bluster to satisfy their constituents.

So, Nadler calmly delayed the vote until this morning. Republicans delayed the progress of the committee hearing, so it just makes good sense that the chair of the committee decided to delay the vote to let everyone cool down.

It was a brilliant move on his part, which will lead the Republicans to behave childishly and vindictively again today.

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I love it that Nadler put off the committee vote until today. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2019 OP
i think he knew when he walked in the room that he would need to do that. mopinko Dec 2019 #1
I don't think the rethugs have cooled down. Arthur_Frain Dec 2019 #2
I agree, and am looking forward to their making fools of MineralMan Dec 2019 #4
Didn't even give him a mic! Arthur_Frain Dec 2019 #6
I think both sides are playing the optics randr Dec 2019 #3
I am in favor of letting the loud, noxious Republicans make fools of themselves MineralMan Dec 2019 #5
The Republican Party has CEASED to exist. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #7
It is indeed "gone".... FarPoint Dec 2019 #10
Not really. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #13
Yes, me too. cwydro Dec 2019 #8
Repubs wanted the vote to be late at night... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #9
Exactly Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #11
Probably just before the Xmas break. Two weeks... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #12
I expect the vote to be next week. MineralMan Dec 2019 #14
That's what's being reported Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #16
they are such whiners.. samnsara Dec 2019 #15
Like the calm, composed teacher PatSeg Dec 2019 #17

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
1. i think he knew when he walked in the room that he would need to do that.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:01 AM
Dec 2019

if he didnt, i am sure he spent a fair amount of time yesterday figuring it out.
all they were doing was aping for the cameras. they controlled the clock.
but he has the gavel, so he pulled the plug.

Arthur_Frain

(1,837 posts)
2. I don't think the rethugs have cooled down.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:03 AM
Dec 2019

In fact, I pretty much expect Collins to start spraying spittle from square one.

When all you can do is beat a dead horse, that horse gets beat to shit.

randr

(12,409 posts)
3. I think both sides are playing the optics
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:04 AM
Dec 2019

A large reason for the adjournment was that they all wanted to get to the Congressional Ball at WH, an annual event that starts the Christmas season for them. Indeed, it was a double edged sword but one both sides had to swallow.
I am sure the larger audience who would want to witness will be entertained by both brilliant legislative histrionics and more childish behavior, enough to satisfy both sides.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
5. I am in favor of letting the loud, noxious Republicans make fools of themselves
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:07 AM
Dec 2019

at any time. This morning, they can do so again, at least for a short time.

TwilightZone

(25,427 posts)
13. Not really.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:34 AM
Dec 2019

He's a symptom, not the disease. This is who the party has been since the Gingrich days. Trump is just more overt about it than the rest of the GOP would prefer.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
9. Repubs wanted the vote to be late at night...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:13 AM
Dec 2019

that was their entire strategy, to delay until the vote happened in the "dead of night."

Voting this morning killed that strategy. It is all happening in broad daylight.

For the entirety of history, Trump will always have that huge * by his name. He should tattoo a huge I on his forehead.

Johnny2X2X

(18,969 posts)
11. Exactly
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:15 AM
Dec 2019

Very good to see Nadler realize what was going on and then put a stop to it.

When will the full House vote?

Johnny2X2X

(18,969 posts)
16. That's what's being reported
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:45 AM
Dec 2019

They'll likely wait until the last day before break. Maybe the last hour. This will force Mitch's hand in the Senate, if he wants to vote to acquit without the Constitutionally required trial he's going to have to do it in a couple hour window which will make clear it's a total sham.

While I think Mitch will be fine with that, I do not think several GOP Senators will agree.

PatSeg

(47,259 posts)
17. Like the calm, composed teacher
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:51 AM
Dec 2019

who holds the class back because of the unruly antics of a few. They've given Nadler such a hard time throughout these hearings, it was a perfect response. "Because of the behavior of a few, the whole class will have to suffer. Let that be a lesson to you all."

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