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The election in Britan scares me! Sounds like what could easily happen here in 2020! (Original Post) napi21 Dec 2019 OP
The dynamic of Democratic vs Republican here miles apart from the hot mess Tarc Dec 2019 #1
You mean blood sausage and crumpets lame54 Dec 2019 #7
Blood sausage ... Tsk tsk, it's black & white pudding of which Clonakilty OnDoutside Dec 2019 #10
run a evertonfc Dec 2019 #2
And who did you vote for? tenderfoot Dec 2019 #4
I'm not British but evertonfc Dec 2019 #8
I'm not at all surprised tenderfoot Dec 2019 #9
I remember the Militant Tendency in the 80s making Labour as OnDoutside Dec 2019 #11
That's not what I'm hearing from my English friends tenderfoot Dec 2019 #14
You need to find new friends then, cos they're not giving reality OnDoutside Dec 2019 #17
I need to find to new friends? Like who? Ukipers? Right wingers? Fascists? Tories? tenderfoot Dec 2019 #19
Nah, just ones who can look at Labour suffering a catastrophic failure and OnDoutside Dec 2019 #20
I'm glad you're happy Corbyn got trounced tenderfoot Dec 2019 #21
Eh ? Stating that there's a juggernaut heading towards you, doesn't imply people are happy you OnDoutside Dec 2019 #22
your assumption evertonfc Dec 2019 #13
I'm glad you're happy with the results of the election tenderfoot Dec 2019 #15
It is scary, Ds should give up the notion of affordable Health care, housing, better wages, schools, tenderfoot Dec 2019 #3
Amen FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #5
Working class voters want jobs... Cattledog Dec 2019 #6
That British blonde guy is smarter than trump. pwb Dec 2019 #12
A lot of this is simply immigrant backlash Yavin4 Dec 2019 #16
There's an element of that, but it's far more complex than that. Even OnDoutside Dec 2019 #18

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
1. The dynamic of Democratic vs Republican here miles apart from the hot mess
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:51 PM
Dec 2019

of the half-dozen and more UK parties vying for seats at the table. Apples and oranges.

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
2. run a
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:54 PM
Dec 2019

candidate similar to Corbyn and you will lose but not to that extent. Corbyn was humiliated and embarrassed

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
11. I remember the Militant Tendency in the 80s making Labour as
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:24 PM
Dec 2019

unelectable, with the likes of Derek Hatton and cronies destroying the party until eventually Kinnock took them on. The Corbynistas are a similar gang that need to be rooted out, or the Tories will be in for another decade of power.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
19. I need to find to new friends? Like who? Ukipers? Right wingers? Fascists? Tories?
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:56 PM
Dec 2019

Gee, I guess my LOSER British friends don't watch the Beeb or Sky or read the Telegraph or the Daily Mail.... based information for sure.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
20. Nah, just ones who can look at Labour suffering a catastrophic failure and
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:08 PM
Dec 2019

not putting it at the feet Corbyn and his merry band of Trots. There were plenty of other Labour MPs like Keir Starmer, who would have been far more acceptable to the British public, and someone who could be trusted to fight against Brexit.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
22. Eh ? Stating that there's a juggernaut heading towards you, doesn't imply people are happy you
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:50 PM
Dec 2019

were in a crash, and neither is pointing out that there's another juggernaut on the horizon, if you don't take evasive action. Corbynite politics has brought Labour to where it is today, and while at least Corbyn appears to be in the processing of resigning, the Corbynistas have already made noises that they plan to install their own replacement.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
3. It is scary, Ds should give up the notion of affordable Health care, housing, better wages, schools,
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:57 PM
Dec 2019

etc.

Those initiatives are just too far to the left.

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
6. Working class voters want jobs...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:01 PM
Dec 2019
Mr. Johnson’s Conservative Party rode a wave of frustrated working-class voters to a decisive majority in Parliament, radically realigning British politics and reshaping Britain’s oldest party. Crucially, that new coalition of voters may also shape the trade agreement that Mr. Johnson must now negotiate with Europe — and hence, the nature of his Brexit.

The voters who gave Mr. Johnson the largest Conservative majority since Margaret Thatcher share few of the free-trade or deregulatory instincts of the Brexiteers who masterminded Mr. Johnson’s campaign or filled his last cabinet. These voters want safe jobs, protection from imports and the restoration of a Britain that vanished in the contrails of the global economy.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/13/world/europe/brexit-boris-johnson-election.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

A similar thing has been happening in this country as party coalitions undergo changes. Although Democrats have long claimed to be the party of the white working class, that’s hardly the case anymore. For many years, working-class whites have been moving toward the Republican Party, and under Trump that movement has accelerated. That’s the conundrum facing Democrats as they think about how to assemble an electoral college majority in 2020.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/johnsons-victory-shakes-up-britain-and-may-hit-the-us/2019/12/13/1666c43c-1dc4-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html

pwb

(11,261 posts)
12. That British blonde guy is smarter than trump.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:24 PM
Dec 2019

Many people that gave trump a chance now see he is not mentally up to the job. He will lose big time in my opinion.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
16. A lot of this is simply immigrant backlash
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:31 PM
Dec 2019

Brexit, Boris Johnson, the Tories election, all of it is nothing more than anti-immigrant backlash, xenophobia.

So, let the UK fall apart on their hatred, and if we go down that path, then we deserve to fall apart as well.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
18. There's an element of that, but it's far more complex than that. Even
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:43 PM
Dec 2019

in this election, Labour got hammered in Labour heartlands that had been left to rot, similar to working class areas in the US.

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